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Wombat in combat TeamPlayers EoN. 81	Posted - 2013.09.25 21:37:00 - [1] - Quote Overall I'm pretty happy with how war points are distributed, it could be and has been far worse. However here is list of suggestions on how to improve it. Many of those items have been suggested by others before, some are my own. Tl;dr: Improve kill assists, WP for remote repairing vehicles, no more 100WP for neutral installations, award speed hackers based on hack speed, award dropship pilots, give more WP for using adv&proto injectors, award usage of active scanners on vehicles. Award WP for damage done, or at least remedy the inconvenience where you did 99% of the damage and some one else nicks it at the end. Award WP for remote repairing vehicles, both shield and armor. Award vehicle scanners in a similar way as infantry active scanners will be awarded. A side suggestion would be to introduce a new dropship exclusive active scanner with far greater radius than the ground equivalent. Then dropships could also double for recognizance giving the dropships more ways to earn WP. Awarding 100WP for destroying neutral installations needs to be removed. Speed hackers should be awarded more WP for how fast they hack. There have been many suggestions made to award dropship pilots and I know you are aware of them. However for completeness I'll mention my favorite one. Award pilots WP if recently deployed passengers successfully hack or kill. I also think all dropships should have built-in CRUs. Progression of nanite injectors has to be encouraged. Currently you get the same amount of WP no matter what injector you use. Ideally this should be awarded in such a way that the extra 20% - 50% armor repaired (compared to using the militia/std 30%) should give you as much WP as if you used the militia/standard injector and used a repair tool to repair the rest. That is currently the most efficient way to earn WP as a logi, use a militia/standard injector and repair the rest, or better yet, let your victim die again to get another 60WP for a revive. This is bonkers and should be corrected. Infantry AV guys have one of the worst WP earning potentials in the game. Infantry AV should be awarded WP based on the effort that went into the destruction. Example 1: infantry AV destroys a tank in a very short amount of time; 150WP + 50WP for each passenger. Example 2: infantry AV chases a tank for an extended time (upper cap) 450 WP + 50WP for each passenger. This bonus would only be available for infantry suits, not other tanks.
Arkena Wyrnspire Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance 3459	Posted - 2013.09.25 21:43:00 - [2] - Quote For your dropship WP bit, I'd also suggest WP for mCRU spawns as well as things people do with those spawns. For the AV bit, simply add WP for damage like we used to have. +1
Meeko Fent Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 995	Posted - 2013.09.25 22:35:00 - [3] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: For your dropship WP bit, I'd also suggest WP for mCRU spawns as well as things people do with those spawns. For the AV bit, simply add WP for damage like we used to have. +1 Yes. Then buff tanks. Myself, I don't see any issue with the current assist system, but I can't see an issue with a new system.
Wombat in combat TeamPlayers EoN. 84	Posted - 2013.09.26 13:17:00 - [4] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: For your dropship WP bit, I'd also suggest WP for mCRU spawns as well as things people do with those spawns. Great idea!
Zeylon Rho Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 2458	Posted - 2013.09.26 13:27:00 - [5] - Quote It seemed like a lot of people were resistant to the idea of WP awards scaling to damage done (back when I did this thread anyway). Someone replied that it was already a planned feature though. They didn't cite the dev comment though, and I don't know what the status is or when it was originally mentioned. Cross Atu is usually up on those things though.
Wombat in combat TeamPlayers EoN. 84	Posted - 2013.09.26 13:49:00 - [6] - Quote I appreciate your input Zeylon Rho. I don't get why people would put up against the idea, it's a far superior system. I'm afraid the case is that this is a planned feature like you say but the priority of it is low because it isn't really a major drawback. I've grown accustomed to it with infantry kills but when someone nicks your vehicle or installation kill that's when you're in the hurt WP wise and get payed less in SP and ISK at the end of the match.
Zeylon Rho Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 2468	Posted - 2013.09.26 14:04:00 - [7] - Quote Wombat in combat wrote: I appreciate your input Zeylon Rho. I don't get why people would put up against the idea, it's a far superior system. I'm afraid the case is that this is a planned feature like you say but the priority of it is low because it isn't really a major drawback. I've grown accustomed to it with infantry kills but when someone nicks your vehicle or installation kill that's when you're in the hurt WP wise and get payed less in SP and ISK at the end of the match. That's a good point, and I tend not to even think about end-match ISK. Truth is, for many of us that have been playing a long long time, we probably have more ISK than we could even spend in a meaningful fashion. So, I was focused on WP rewards (as they translate to SP), but missing kill-related ISK would likely hurt newer players and smaller-wallet types to a larger degree. Honestly, I'm not sure what the priority set is over there, but I'd think we would've heard if the WP changes (coming in 1.5) included this. The fact WP rewards are changing in 1.5 makes me think it might be awhile before that sort of thing is addressed again.
Chilled Pill Pro Hic Immortalis 205	Posted - 2013.09.26 14:16:00 - [8] - Quote Lower WP earnings for Drop Uplinks that aren't proto. 5 WP - MLT 10 WP -STD 15 WP - ADV 25 WP - PRO These WP farming tards on Dom games aren't helping anyone by spamming 10sec links in roughly the same frikkn area.
General Erick Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 136	Posted - 2013.09.26 14:43:00 - [9] - Quote My idea is for kill assists. Get WP for the percentage of damage done to the enemy that someone else kills. EX: You get a guy down to 50% of their health and shields. You get 25 WP when someone else ganks them. .50 * 50 = 25


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