DUST Search - Idea for game balance ..

GSP GoTSoMePoT wrote:

Monkey MAC wrote:

GSP GoTSoMePoT wrote:

Monkey MAC wrote:

No
Sorry

Whats to stop a proto user using proto in a standard room?
Its unfair to restrict users by equipment as this negates the whole point of getting better equipment in the first place!

Standard Rooms / Can use Militia, or Standard suits, weapons, gear, and vehicles only.

You get better equipment you move to a better room ..

My second point covers that, it would completly remove the point of tiers if going to advance room means everyone has the same standards of suit. You might as well remove adv and proto tiers and let every one slog it out in standard.

Im sorry, no offence or anything but it would completly nullify an incredibly large portion of the game.
Why would new players bother upping gear if it doesn't give them an advantage.

Proto room matches would be incredibly slow because everyone will have more health. The entire RPG element would become pointless. I'm sorry, but good on you for trying! Blink

Then what is the point now ... New players come to play the game get out of boot camp and get Proto stump and leave.
This way you can pick your room.

Theres more skills then just getting to proto that can give you an advantage over the next guy.

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GSP GoTSoMePoT WOLF AND IRON STRIKE FORCE 52	Posted - 2013.09.25 08:44:00 - [1] - Quote New option for Scotty on the Battl Finder .. Skirmish, Ambush, Domination and the option to pick Standard, Advanced, or Prototype rooms . Standard Rooms / Can use Militia, or Standard suits, weapons, gear, and vehicles only. Skirmish Standard Ambush Standard Domination Standard Advanced Rooms / Can use Militia, Standard, or Advanced suits, weapons, gear, and vehicles onley. Skirmsh Advanced Ambush Advanced Domination Advanced Prototype Rooms / Can use Militia, Standard, Advanced, or Prototype suits, weapons, gear, and vehicles. Skirmsh Prototype Ambush Prototype Domination Prototype Have it to where you make more SP, WP, and ISK as you go up in the rooms . Like in a Standard rooms you only make standard amount of SP, WP, and ISK. Advanced rooms make a little more then the Standard rooms. Prototype rooms make more then the Advanced rooms. I think this will help out with the game alot ... What does every one think on here ???
GSP GoTSoMePoT WOLF AND IRON STRIKE FORCE 52	Posted - 2013.09.25 10:17:00 - [2] - Quote You have mission levels on EvE from 1 to 5. Standard Rooms are like mission levels 1 and 2. Advanced Rooms are like mission levels 3 and 4. Prototype Rooms are like mission level 5 and PvP.
Monkey MAC killer taxi company General Tso's Alliance 717	Posted - 2013.09.25 10:22:00 - [3] - Quote No Sorry Whats to stop a proto user using proto in a standard room? Its unfair to restrict users by equipment as this negates the whole point of getting better equipment in the first place!
GSP GoTSoMePoT WOLF AND IRON STRIKE FORCE 52	Posted - 2013.09.25 10:26:00 - [4] - Quote Monkey MAC wrote: No Sorry Whats to stop a proto user using proto in a standard room? Its unfair to restrict users by equipment as this negates the whole point of getting better equipment in the first place! Standard Rooms / Can use Militia, or Standard suits, weapons, gear, and vehicles only. You get better equipment you move to a better room ..
deepfried salad gilliam Sanguine Knights 6	Posted - 2013.09.25 10:34:00 - [5] - Quote There's not enough active players to divide it up this much, of people think matchmaking takes long now this would easily double the time
Monkey MAC killer taxi company General Tso's Alliance 719	Posted - 2013.09.25 10:34:00 - [6] - Quote GSP GoTSoMePoT wrote: Monkey MAC wrote: No Sorry Whats to stop a proto user using proto in a standard room? Its unfair to restrict users by equipment as this negates the whole point of getting better equipment in the first place! Standard Rooms / Can use Militia, or Standard suits, weapons, gear, and vehicles only. You get better equipment you move to a better room .. My second point covers that, it would completly remove the point of tiers if going to advance room means everyone has the same standards of suit. You might as well remove adv and proto tiers and let every one slog it out in standard. Im sorry, no offence or anything but it would completly nullify an incredibly large portion of the game. Why would new players bother upping gear if it doesn't give them an advantage. Proto room matches would be incredibly slow because everyone will have more health. The entire RPG element would become pointless. I'm sorry, but good on you for trying!
GSP GoTSoMePoT WOLF AND IRON STRIKE FORCE 52	Posted - 2013.09.25 10:39:00 - [7] - Quote deepfried salad gilliam wrote: There's not enough active players to divide it up this much, of people think matchmaking takes long now this would easily double the time Hope this will can them in and bring some back..
jerrmy12 kahoalii Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 26	Posted - 2013.09.25 10:46:00 - [8] - Quote deepfried salad gilliam wrote: There's not enough active players to divide it up this much, of people think matchmaking takes long now this would easily double the time standard adv+ room so no stupid noobs on your team.
GSP GoTSoMePoT WOLF AND IRON STRIKE FORCE 52	Posted - 2013.09.25 10:47:00 - [9] - Quote Monkey MAC wrote: GSP GoTSoMePoT wrote: Monkey MAC wrote: No Sorry Whats to stop a proto user using proto in a standard room? Its unfair to restrict users by equipment as this negates the whole point of getting better equipment in the first place! Standard Rooms / Can use Militia, or Standard suits, weapons, gear, and vehicles only. You get better equipment you move to a better room .. My second point covers that, it would completly remove the point of tiers if going to advance room means everyone has the same standards of suit. You might as well remove adv and proto tiers and let every one slog it out in standard. Im sorry, no offence or anything but it would completly nullify an incredibly large portion of the game. Why would new players bother upping gear if it doesn't give them an advantage. Proto room matches would be incredibly slow because everyone will have more health. The entire RPG element would become pointless. I'm sorry, but good on you for trying! Then what is the point now ... New players come to play the game get out of boot camp and get Proto stump and leave. This way you can pick your room.
steadyhand amarr Imperfects Negative-Feedback 1383	Posted - 2013.09.25 11:15:00 - [10] - Quote Sodapop that you? Just need to know if I need to set my troll to kill or stun

Monkey MAC killer taxi company General Tso's Alliance 720	Posted - 2013.09.25 11:23:00 - [11] - Quote GSP GoTSoMePoT wrote: Monkey MAC wrote: GSP GoTSoMePoT wrote: Monkey MAC wrote: No Sorry Whats to stop a proto user using proto in a standard room? Its unfair to restrict users by equipment as this negates the whole point of getting better equipment in the first place! Standard Rooms / Can use Militia, or Standard suits, weapons, gear, and vehicles only. You get better equipment you move to a better room .. My second point covers that, it would completly remove the point of tiers if going to advance room means everyone has the same standards of suit. You might as well remove adv and proto tiers and let every one slog it out in standard. Im sorry, no offence or anything but it would completly nullify an incredibly large portion of the game. Why would new players bother upping gear if it doesn't give them an advantage. Proto room matches would be incredibly slow because everyone will have more health. The entire RPG element would become pointless. I'm sorry, but good on you for trying! Then what is the point now ... New players come to play the game get out of boot camp and get Proto stump and leave. This way you can pick your room. Theres more skills then just getting to proto that can give you an advantage over the next guy. Thats the point suits are an advantage. Proto Stomped has been largely reduced mostly because proto players are dieing quicker! But lets say we implement this. I start of in a standard room, I earn enough to the adv room. But why would I? All the guys ive been fighting in the standard room are gonna move up with me. I might as well stay with standard gear in the standard room, and just stomp the noobs who come in at the bottom. I mean its much more fun than going to the proto room and playing in a proto suit for 5 times the cost and getting stomped by theguys who have been playing in the proto room for the past 5 months. This is why have matchmaking, to stop that kind of thing happening. You group people based on their performance not the tier of suits they wear. Now before you start the flaming of "Your Just a Proto who enjoys stomping noobs", I run an all adv suit, I spread my horizons too quickly and have 3 adv suits and 2 adv weaponry. I could have easily joined the pro ranks, but instead I sit in the adv room where my divided sp gives me an unfair advantage. If there is more skills than just having a better suit, why do you feel the need to segregate them?
GSP GoTSoMePoT WOLF AND IRON STRIKE FORCE 52	Posted - 2013.09.25 12:09:00 - [12] - Quote I tried , but it looks like theres no way to help out the game at this point. Just have to ride it out and see where we in up at.
Monkey MAC killer taxi company General Tso's Alliance 721	Posted - 2013.09.25 12:17:00 - [13] - Quote GSP GoTSoMePoT wrote: I tried , but it looks like theres no way to help out the game at this point. Just have to ride it out and see where we in up at. I don't blame you for trying! Your hearts in the right place! Just not your head. I dunno about you but I have been getting more even matches since the hotfix, every battle is a fight to the death. What needs to happen to eliminate Proto Stomping is a better NPE experience, the blueberries aren't educated enough in the beginning to understand what is going on!
GSP GoTSoMePoT WOLF AND IRON STRIKE FORCE 52	Posted - 2013.09.25 12:30:00 - [14] - Quote Monkey MAC wrote: GSP GoTSoMePoT wrote: I tried , but it looks like theres no way to help out the game at this point. Just have to ride it out and see where we in up at. I don't blame you for trying! Your hearts in the right place! Just not your head. I dunno about you but I have been getting more even matches since the hotfix, every battle is a fight to the death. What needs to happen to eliminate Proto Stomping is a better NPE experience, the blueberries aren't educated enough in the beginning to understand what is going on! Not I , It's Proto stump , proto stump , proto stump , proto stump , and then a good game. I spend more time jumping rooms then I do playing but thats from being around for a bit and know what corporations are using proto and not ..
Monkey MAC killer taxi company General Tso's Alliance 722	Posted - 2013.09.25 12:42:00 - [15] - Quote GSP GoTSoMePoT wrote: Monkey MAC wrote: GSP GoTSoMePoT wrote: I tried , but it looks like theres no way to help out the game at this point. Just have to ride it out and see where we in up at. I don't blame you for trying! Your hearts in the right place! Just not your head. I dunno about you but I have been getting more even matches since the hotfix, every battle is a fight to the death. What needs to happen to eliminate Proto Stomping is a better NPE experience, the blueberries aren't educated enough in the beginning to understand what is going on! Not I , It's Proto stump , proto stump , proto stump , proto stump , and then a good game. I spend more time jumping rooms then I do playing but thats from being around for a bit and know what corporations are using proto and not .. Potentially the matchmaking is putting you with proto squads because it thinks you can handle them. Also squadding yeilds better matches than solo, the squad finder will help with that!!
GSP GoTSoMePoT WOLF AND IRON STRIKE FORCE 53	Posted - 2013.09.25 13:21:00 - [16] - Quote Why are protos dying so quickly now is that they are old players coming back or new players that just whent straight for the skills to get proto suits, weapons and not put skills in dropsuit upgrades. Nice suit and gun but can't use them right.
Monkey MAC killer taxi company General Tso's Alliance 722	Posted - 2013.09.25 13:32:00 - [17] - Quote GSP GoTSoMePoT wrote: Why are protos dying so quickly now is that they are old players coming back or new players that just whent straight for the skills to get proto suits, weapons and not put skills in dropsuit upgrades. Nice suit and gun but can't use them right. Hundreds of factors but the main thing is hit detection and aim assist. More shots are hitting more consistently. Back n .3 a sheild extender at complex level would give best part of 3-5 secs extra survivability over an empt or none health slot. Now it only gives 0.25 secs which is rarely enough! So proto suit users are getting outsmarted becayse they are used to chop strafing into enemy fire. .4 physically closed the gap between different tiered suits.
GSP GoTSoMePoT WOLF AND IRON STRIKE FORCE 53	Posted - 2013.09.25 13:44:00 - [18] - Quote Idk.. I've been playing this game now for over a year 6/30/12. All i run is blueprints dragonfly scout , assault, and raven assault. Oh and the toxic AR and toxic SMG..


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