DUST Search - Simple Poll, Core Mechanics

RydogV wrote:

Yes the core (infantry) mechanics are about 80% and that is good enough to focus the majority of development into new content, while CCP Wolfman's team continues to work on vehicles.

What is needed most desperately is maps and modes. Knee 101 has shown what they can accomplish and now it is time to expand thing exponentially. More maps and more iterations on current maps (i.e: move the Null Cannons around). And then we need more game modes. I am not talking pie in the sky game modes with serious EVE Online integration...but some standard FPS staple modes to keep people from getting bored. The EVE integration should come later, preferably when the game moves to PS4 and when battles are at least 32v32. In the meantime, other objective based, team focused modes need to occur. 15 months of Skirmish and Ambush is just about enough.

Introduction of the rest of the racial weapons and dropsuits should be happening throughout the introduction of new maps and modes. It is about time.

Finally, they have got to get the PvE into the game. People need a reason to log on when they don't feel like competitive MP.

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Killar-12 The Corporate Raiders Top Men. 1247	Posted - 2013.09.25 01:29:00 - [1] - Quote Do you think the core mechanics (Hit detection, bugs, some other issues) are in a good enough state to add new content both Items (Weapons, Equipment, Dropsuits, and Vehicles) and features (Team Deploy, Corp Battles, Item Trading, Rollover SP, and a better Eve-Dust Connection)? Yes, Core Mechanics are fine 2 No, Core Mechanics need more work
Patrick57 GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention 338	Posted - 2013.09.25 01:31:00 - [2] - Quote Yes Core Mechanics are fine /thread
Aikuchi Tomaru Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 819	Posted - 2013.09.25 01:31:00 - [3] - Quote I think the core mechanics are pretty good and I would love to see some more new content. Polishing can be done a little on the way. But currently I think the focus of the game is exactly the other way around: Focus on core mechanics and new content along the way.
Killar-12 The Corporate Raiders Top Men. 1247	Posted - 2013.09.25 01:35:00 - [4] - Quote Thank both of you
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 2281	Posted - 2013.09.25 01:38:00 - [5] - Quote Killar-12 wrote: Do you think the core mechanics (Hit detection, bugs, some other issues) are in a good enough state to add new content both Items (Weapons, Equipment, Dropsuits, and Vehicles) and features (Team Deploy, Corp Battles, Item Trading, Rollover SP, and a better Eve-Dust Connection)? Yes, Core Mechanics are fine 2 No, Core Mechanics need more work CONTENT IS NEEDED NOW. CORE IS PASSABLE, CONTENT ME UP!
Patrick57 GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention 339	Posted - 2013.09.25 01:39:00 - [6] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Killar-12 wrote: Do you think the core mechanics (Hit detection, bugs, some other issues) are in a good enough state to add new content both Items (Weapons, Equipment, Dropsuits, and Vehicles) and features (Team Deploy, Corp Battles, Item Trading, Rollover SP, and a better Eve-Dust Connection)? Yes, Core Mechanics are fine 2 No, Core Mechanics need more work CONTENT IS NEEDED NOW. CORE IS PASSABLE, CONTENT ME UP! Amarr heavy weapons :D
GTA V FTW Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 139	Posted - 2013.09.25 01:39:00 - [7] - Quote 3. Bacon bits.
Killar-12 The Corporate Raiders Top Men. 1248	Posted - 2013.09.25 01:47:00 - [8] - Quote Thanks for the continued replies
Michael Arck Anubis Prime Syndicate 1215	Posted - 2013.09.25 01:55:00 - [9] - Quote Yep I think its about tidied up. Ready for that content...
DoomLead Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 207	Posted - 2013.09.25 02:05:00 - [10] - Quote yes core mechanics or fine

Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 8871	Posted - 2013.09.25 02:07:00 - [11] - Quote Core feels good, Shell features need improving (animation, phsyics) for sure but the game being ready for new content is in a good state.
Luk Manag of Terror TRE GAFFEL 92	Posted - 2013.09.25 02:07:00 - [12] - Quote More new stuff would be good. There are limits to the polish-ability of the basic mechanics.
Cosgar ParagonX 5434	Posted - 2013.09.25 02:10:00 - [13] - Quote Still a few bugs here and there, but nothing to warrant pushing back new content. We're at the point that we need it to keep people interested in this game. Even I'm starting to get bored.
Killar-12 The Corporate Raiders Top Men. 1248	Posted - 2013.09.25 02:12:00 - [14] - Quote Thank for everyone who posted below.
itsmellslikefish DIOS EX. Top Men. 260	Posted - 2013.09.25 02:26:00 - [15] - Quote Yes. Good.
Killar-12 The Corporate Raiders Top Men. 1249	Posted - 2013.09.25 02:28:00 - [16] - Quote Killar-12 wrote: Do you think the core mechanics (Hit detection, bugs, some other issues) are in a good enough state to add new content both Items (Weapons, Equipment, Dropsuits, and Vehicles) and features (Team Deploy, Corp Battles, Item Trading, Rollover SP, and a better Eve-Dust Connection)? Yes, Core Mechanics are fine 9 No, Core Mechanics need more work
Buster Friently Rosen Association 1711	Posted - 2013.09.25 02:28:00 - [17] - Quote Killar-12 wrote: Do you think the core mechanics (Hit detection, bugs, some other issues) are in a good enough state to add new content both Items (Weapons, Equipment, Dropsuits, and Vehicles) and features (Team Deploy, Corp Battles, Item Trading, Rollover SP, and a better Eve-Dust Connection)? Yes, Core Mechanics are fine 8 No, Core Mechanics need more work Dust needs more content even if the core mechanics aren't good.
Chad Michael Murray The Phoenix Federation 20	Posted - 2013.09.25 02:42:00 - [18] - Quote I feel the core mechanics are good enough; while they're not exactly perfect by any means they're good enough to stop pushing back new content. Maybe during/after releasing some new things the mechanics can be polished up a bit more.
TheAmazing FlyingPig Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 3772	Posted - 2013.09.25 02:44:00 - [19] - Quote Core is definitely better than on release day. I wouldn't put an end to core development, but I'd say it's safe to shift the main focus on content and player retention, and maybe leave one or two CCPberries chained to desks to continue core work.
Mossellia Delt Militaires Sans Jeux 409	Posted - 2013.09.25 02:45:00 - [20] - Quote core is crap, but content and balance are needed to keep the game from becoming stale.

Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 4273	Posted - 2013.09.25 03:00:00 - [21] - Quote Compared to Replication, the E3 build, Codex, Chromosome, and the first three versions of Uprising, I think the core mechanics are in much better shape than ever before. However, matchmaking is still needing some work and PC battles are still suffering lag issues as well as the epidemic of alt-corps locking districts.
Coleman Gray GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention 725	Posted - 2013.09.25 03:03:00 - [22] - Quote Yes, in the sense it's pointless balancing weapons ect now when theres still alot of basic stuff to come which may knock things out of balance anyway
low genius the sound of freedom Renegade Alliance 481	Posted - 2013.09.25 03:10:00 - [23] - Quote core mechanics are good to go. dust needs to feel 'big' now.
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic 6163	Posted - 2013.09.25 03:13:00 - [24] - Quote More content, core mechanics are fine.
CommanderBolt A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. 306	Posted - 2013.09.25 03:16:00 - [25] - Quote Well I think the 'core' as it is so called is in a reasonable state at the moment. There's still minor balancing issues , the scout suit and also shotgun random firing arcs come to mind. I wont lie I'm still loving (Most of) the new maps and socket sets. New weapons and the continuation of the rest of the racial drop suits would defiantly keep me interested.
RydogV Shadow Company HQ 363	Posted - 2013.09.25 03:25:00 - [26] - Quote Yes the core (infantry) mechanics are about 80% and that is good enough to focus the majority of development into new content, while CCP Wolfman's team continues to work on vehicles. What is needed most desperately is maps and modes. Knee 101 has shown what they can accomplish and now it is time to expand thing exponentially. More maps and more iterations on current maps (i.e: move the Null Cannons around). And then we need more game modes. I am not talking pie in the sky game modes with serious EVE Online integration...but some standard FPS staple modes to keep people from getting bored. The EVE integration should come later, preferably when the game moves to PS4 and when battles are at least 32v32. In the meantime, other objective based, team focused modes need to occur. 15 months of Skirmish and Ambush is just about enough. Introduction of the rest of the racial weapons and dropsuits should be happening throughout the introduction of new maps and modes. It is about time. Finally, they have got to get the PvE into the game. People need a reason to log on when they don't feel like competitive MP.
dustwaffle The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine 570	Posted - 2013.09.25 03:34:00 - [27] - Quote I'm fine with core mechanics. More content + balancing in the SAME patch in future would be nice. Pure balance patches are a bit meh
Vrain Matari ZionTCD 961	Posted - 2013.09.25 04:29:00 - [28] - Quote In math & physics we often talk about first order approximations, second order approximations, third order etc. First order is a crude but serviceable approximation, second order is when you start to get things dialed down, third order is when you've got it clocked and running on rails. I would say that CCP has got their first order approximation to a AAA shooter. It works well enough, but it still doesn't feel good. However, if 1.5 iterates successfully on the core and gets DUST to that second approximation then fine, we can start adding some content. But i will say this: the mechanics as they stand right now won't raise our metacritic score by much. We players and CCP can't really afford to stop working on the core mechanics without leaving DUST permanently gimped.
Nguruthos IX PEN 15 CLUB 1782	Posted - 2013.09.25 04:43:00 - [29] - Quote only real broken core issues are spawning, invisible swarms, and when you are flying a dropship players won't render or update their icon position till you're 5 feet away. Those may be bad but I'd rather have new vehicles and turrets than take 2 years to finally optimize those things for a console which by that point will be obsolete. So yeah, content.
Vrain Matari ZionTCD 961	Posted - 2013.09.25 04:43:00 - [30] - Quote RydogV wrote: Yes the core (infantry) mechanics are about 80% and that is good enough to focus the majority of development into new content, while CCP Wolfman's team continues to work on vehicles. What is needed most desperately is maps and modes. Knee 101 has shown what they can accomplish and now it is time to expand thing exponentially. More maps and more iterations on current maps (i.e: move the Null Cannons around). And then we need more game modes. I am not talking pie in the sky game modes with serious EVE Online integration...but some standard FPS staple modes to keep people from getting bored. The EVE integration should come later, preferably when the game moves to PS4 and when battles are at least 32v32. In the meantime, other objective based, team focused modes need to occur. 15 months of Skirmish and Ambush is just about enough. Introduction of the rest of the racial weapons and dropsuits should be happening throughout the introduction of new maps and modes. It is about time. Finally, they have got to get the PvE into the game. People need a reason to log on when they don't feel like competitive MP. ^ I really like this. The great thing about new maps is that the power of all those possible combinations really start to work for us as we add maps. With two more maps the total number of possible battlegrounds will be a big number. For us vets that's good, but for new players it'll be freakin' great. Plus we need time with new maps to find the glitchy spots - we want to do this with at least two more maps before CCP starts their big marketing push. And if CCP can give RydogV what he wants and bring in even one or two quality game modes we'll have enough content to keep all the new players and most of the vets busy until CCP can start the process of integration with New Eden.



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