I had this happen to me last week also when i was using my proto breach FG to bust a tank. The driver jumped out and recalled between shots. Dam charge up time. I learned my lesson with that and now use my assault FG even when hunting tanks. I just use a basic proto heavy suit and 4 complex damage mods. I havent dont the math but i am betting that my damage output is probably pretty close or maybe even better since the AFG has a 1.5 second charge time.
Anyway it does a great job of preventing tank drivers from jumping out and recalling. Now they at least have to drive into some cover or at least away from my line of sight.

noob abusing forge guns, thats why they recall.....

More like adapting to noobs that abuse the ability to recall.

I think they should handle this like the log off timer on eve. When you where in a PVP/PVE action you have a 15 minute timer for your ship to remain in space. Which means that some 1 can still find your ship in space and blow it up (though you are offline). 15 minutes is quite harsh on dust so i would say a 1 minute timer is approperate before you are aible to recall your vehicle. The timer starts after you take a hit from hostiles and continues to reset when taking damage. If the vehicle takes damage during the recall hack then the recall will be instantly canceled. In real life you have to secure a landing zone for extraction first cause no pilot would go into a hot zone.

I had this happen to me last week also when i was using my proto breach FG to bust a tank. The driver jumped out and recalled between shots. Dam charge up time. I learned my lesson with that and now use my assault FG even when hunting tanks. I just use a basic proto heavy suit and 4 complex damage mods. I havent dont the math but i am betting that my damage output is probably pretty close or maybe even better since the AFG has a 1.5 second charge time.
Anyway it does a great job of preventing tank drivers from jumping out and recalling. Now they at least have to drive into some cover or at least away from my line of sight.

I'd agree with the restrictions IF
Same counted for infantry at supply depots
Swarmers and their swarms were visable
Forgers were visable
Turrets rendered at the 1.3 ranges
AV nades didn't lock on.

Only if the same rules apply to infantry changing their suits at a supply depot.

at least with foot class you have the ability to eventually skill up to a proto that can withstand proto infantry vehicles have no such saving grace if you specc into them you have to understand that at best you will only be able to use your vehicles vs scrubs. ccp nerfed vehilce to oblivion when they never really had the strength to begin with they took a up item and made it more UP and now they are slowly reworking it when it is without a doubt the worst aspect of dust ...beyond any possible infantry imbalance nothing compares to the imbalance of proto av vs vehicles in dust 514.. for the isk price they have vehicles have 0 rewards tanking least of all. as dust has progressed tanks life span has gotten shorter and shorter to the point where now when you do see a tank its almost always dieing or getting ready to die.....and if said tanker is doing good and rapaging well then the risk increases because then bluebies realize that this tank is safe for them to hide in and they do ..and then at some point the team gets av and tank dies because of said bluebie ...the worst is when you are trying to sneak up on one tank in another tank and the blue bots let him know your there .....vehicles are the most nerfed thing in dust and you wanna nerf them more GG

I think they should handle this like the log off timer on eve. When you where in a PVP/PVE action you have a 15 minute timer for your ship to remain in space. Which means that some 1 can still find your ship in space and blow it up (though you are offline). 15 minutes is quite harsh on dust so i would say a 1 minute timer is approperate before you are aible to recall your vehicle. The timer starts after you take a hit from hostiles and continues to reset when taking damage. If the vehicle takes damage during the recall hack then the recall will be instantly canceled. In real life you have to secure a landing zone for extraction first cause no pilot would go into a hot zone.

yeah but you gotta realize how MUCH MONEY IT COSTS TO HAVE A NICE DROPSHIP, JUST FOR ANY WEAPON ABOVE ADV WITH A DAMAGE MOD TO 2 SHOT YOU (AV weapon that is :) )) Your forge gun proto with suit probably costs what 100k maybe 150 k isk, YEAH well my dropship costs over 800 thousand isk and some tanks cost over 1.5 mil

swarms aren't actually op though because of a combination of lock on time, and time it takes to travel to you. Plus swarms are resisted by shields and have a bonus against armor, forge gun is supposed to destroy shield, and be resisted by armor, but instead forge guns are equally powerful against anything in the game. Mean really, a ball of electricity supercharged should not damage armor this much because the armor isn't electrical.

As an example, me and 3 friends all snuck up on a tank, i was using CBR7's with enhanced damage mod, and my 2 friends were using MLT swarms, we all fired at the same time, twice and his madrugar didn't blow up :)

The reason why tanks and vehicles in general got nerfed is because of the LLAV's, they made the game hellish to play, cause you couldn't kill them hardly ever if they were using the shield version, and with a light tap they would kill a heavy. The fact is, we still have half of that problem because AV damage was implimented incorrectly, it does a ton of damage against armor and laughable amounts against shields when it should have been neutral. I do not want to nerf tanks, however, what I would like to see is nerfed prices of vehicle parts and tanks, basically slash those prices in half or 75% and then give all vehicles a buff in hp except for LLAV's. Then a massive rework of the skill bonuses and such would be in order and a fix to how AV damage works.

In concerns with the recalling of vehicles, I honestly don't care, what I think however is that once a vehicle is out of the redline it can never go back in and it can't fire it's guns while in the redline. The whole redline issue is a way bigger thing to me and many others then the recall, also if you've seen the RDV's at times they get stuck, so this is a better way of doing it I think, least for now till they get the RDV's fixed.

The reason why tanks and vehicles in general got nerfed is because of the LLAV's, they made the game hellish to play, cause you couldn't kill them hardly ever if they were using the shield version, and with a light tap they would kill a heavy. The fact is, we still have half of that problem because AV damage was implimented incorrectly, it does a ton of damage against armor and laughable amounts against shields when it should have been neutral. I do not want to nerf tanks, however, what I would like to see is nerfed prices of vehicle parts and tanks, basically slash those prices in half or 75% and then give all vehicles a buff in hp except for LLAV's. Then a massive rework of the skill bonuses and such would be in order and a fix to how AV damage works.

In concerns with the recalling of vehicles, I honestly don't care, what I think however is that once a vehicle is out of the redline it can never go back in and it can't fire it's guns while in the redline. The whole redline issue is a way bigger thing to me and many others then the recall, also if you've seen the RDV's at times they get stuck, so this is a better way of doing it I think, least for now till they get the RDV's fixed.

and av isnt op vs vehicles. vehicles are up vs av their is a significant difference. besides small inner weapon adjustments that still need to be made with SOME AV ITEMS the real issue is lack of proto equivalence tanks in dust 514 have the ability to deal proto damage but not to tank it..which means the are expensive coffins if i wanted to deal proto dmg and not be able to tank it..i WOULD BE AN AV SPEC OHH OMG GASP A FOOT FORCE. tanks should be able to tank and deal proto dmg where as aver's are only supposed to deal it..i suppose our lavs can tank a bit.

a big attraction to dust 514 was vehicles when it came out they were great and fun.so much of the community has left just because of the vehicle imbalance it should be ccp's number 1 priority there is 0 vehicle player base in dust currently

what you are saying is that ccp's overall goal by nerfing tanks was to nerf lavs then you are a fool as they buffed lavs when they nerfed tanks. the saga 2 i can only assume was an accident on their part and im sure they are ashamed of it lol.

and as for the redline i can see a tank better in the redline with my forge than he can see me. anyone who thinks anything negative need to be done with vehicles in dust is crazy they are the biggest joke i have ever seen..i started playing this game for vehicles. how would you like to be delayed in swapping suits it takes less time to swap ata supply depot than it does to swap vehicles.

i think ccp should speed up the vehicles swapping process to the same speed all you infantry can swap suits.

i seriously hope no real av spec was involved in this thread ..no real av spec would have such a problem with any vehicle no matter who the pilot is to whine about them like this. op if you run av you shame yourself with this thread stop crying for the game to be made easier.

and if the said op is non av or vehicle user than it is non of his business

yeah but you gotta realize how MUCH MONEY IT COSTS TO HAVE A NICE DROPSHIP, JUST FOR ANY WEAPON ABOVE ADV WITH A DAMAGE MOD TO 2 SHOT YOU (AV weapon that is :) )) Your forge gun proto with suit probably costs what 100k maybe 150 k isk, YEAH well my dropship costs over 800 thousand isk and some tanks cost over 1.5 mil

I had this happen to me last week also when i was using my proto breach FG to bust a tank. The driver jumped out and recalled between shots. Dam charge up time. I learned my lesson with that and now use my assault FG even when hunting tanks. I just use a basic proto heavy suit and 4 complex damage mods. I havent dont the math but i am betting that my damage output is probably pretty close or maybe even better since the AFG has a 1.5 second charge time.
Anyway it does a great job of preventing tank drivers from jumping out and recalling. Now they at least have to drive into some cover or at least away from my line of sight.