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Aislin Nolan
Commando Perkone Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.09.23 23:11:00 -
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So I have Played dust for a few weaks as a caldari Assault speced into ARs and Scrambler pistols, but tanks allways seamed so cool. I have read the forums a bit and I understand from battle field experiance seeign them die and the raging on the forums that tanks are a bit under powered.
But I learn best from first hand experiance so I made this tanking alt and decided to take one tank into each battle and see how I died while preying i didn't
My fits rough layout is a Sica fit with a heavy shield extender, the low fitting heavy shield boster, and a active shield hardener, a powergrid mod and a damage mod, along with the cheepest missle turret.
This is not my first day tanking but it could be my first day seriously tanking, I played 6 battles and here is how i died in each.
1: I called in my tank and roamed around destroying turrets as I came across them, which i did because i know that for some reason they hit as hard as I do and can esily kill me even if not maned. I then rolled into the city on one of the new maps, just into the entrance near where objective A is underground and killed a few people, before having AV granades tossed down on my head then finished off with a swarm launcher, 1 hit KOing my armor. All fair and good, I did go into the city where i could easily be hit from above or behind.
2: Same as first battle i called in my tank and went in search of turrets, when 50 sec into my tank i get hit by a Red line Railturret and had no where to run so i died. Kinda frustrating.
3: Same as usual, this time i kill about 3 turrets, and 1 guy before a guy with a proto swarm launcher shoots four vollys off at me, The first volly hits me, and before i can even think of moving to put somethign between me and the rest the next three vollys smack into me killing me. I did see the guy before i died and he was half the map away where my missles and ability to bearly see made him imposible to counter.
4: This was the small map with the 3 objectives, i jumped in my tank and headed for the middleish one C. I cozzied up behind the socket where there was a wall and I killed every single enemy that spawned in, I also had two blueberrys who actualy where pretty good shots in my turret for once and they also got a bunch of kills and assists. I used my Ressit mod and shield booster and the wall to dip in and out of danger, even when gettign hit by swarm launchers, forge guns, and AVG a few times. I never died and we won the battle, me going 25/0. Best tankign experiance i have ever had, and i also felt i used real skill aswell.
5: Same map as #4, the small one, was doing well till a blueberry in a rail tank ramed me from behind and we both insta exploded.... seriously... wtf.
6: One of the new loooong maps, Killed a few guys and a few turrets, when out of no where an enemy LAV ramed me from behind, the two passengers jumping out, both with proto AV granades, I died pretty quick. Wasent actualy mad about this one, that was a pretty smooth move on their part.
Im not QQing, just passing on my experiance, I know my skills are low, and am using a milita tank, so maybe allot fo this would have played out diferantly if I had a bad ass death machine. But i have to say that Red line Rail guns and proto swarms are almost unstopable forces that i have no way of dealign with and I think CCP needs to cut the range on them.
Anyway I will continue to update this a few times a week with my experiances, as good or bad as they come. I just wish tanks wernt so dang expensive. 300k is more than i can ever hope to gain in one match that isent near perfect. |
Godin Thekiller
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
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Posted - 2013.09.23 23:15:00 -
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It doesn't change much, so yea. |
Mejt0
D3LTA ACADEMY
23
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Posted - 2013.09.23 23:20:00 -
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Buddy its funny but average tank cost 1m. Swarms ...yes they are little to good but at same way they cant be weak. Rail snipers have hard. 1. Rendering is shi! And 2. If someone have nitros booster he will always run away.
Very average maddy fit: best 180mm plate.best hev rep, pg upgrade,2active hardeners, sac neutron blaster, nitros and heat sink II. With cores 4-5 |
Killar-12
The Corporate Raiders Top Men.
1231
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Posted - 2013.09.23 23:23:00 -
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Char Help this person... |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2254
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Posted - 2013.09.23 23:36:00 -
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Aislin Nolan wrote:So I have Played dust for a few weaks as a caldari Assault speced into ARs and Scrambler pistols, but tanks allways seamed so cool. I have read the forums a bit and I understand from battle field experiance seeign them die and the raging on the forums that tanks are a bit under powered.
But I learn best from first hand experiance so I made this tanking alt and decided to take one tank into each battle and see how I died while preying i didn't
My fits rough layout is a Sica fit with a heavy shield extender, the low fitting heavy shield boster, and a active shield hardener, a powergrid mod and a damage mod, along with the cheepest missle turret.
This is not my first day tanking but it could be my first day seriously tanking, I played 6 battles and here is how i died in each.
1: I called in my tank and roamed around destroying turrets as I came across them, which i did because i know that for some reason they hit as hard as I do and can esily kill me even if not maned. I then rolled into the city on one of the new maps, just into the entrance near where objective A is underground and killed a few people, before having AV granades tossed down on my head then finished off with a swarm launcher, 1 hit KOing my armor. All fair and good, I did go into the city where i could easily be hit from above or behind.
2: Same as first battle i called in my tank and went in search of turrets, when 50 sec into my tank i get hit by a Red line Railturret and had no where to run so i died. Kinda frustrating.
3: Same as usual, this time i kill about 3 turrets, and 1 guy before a guy with a proto swarm launcher shoots four vollys off at me, The first volly hits me, and before i can even think of moving to put somethign between me and the rest the next three vollys smack into me killing me. I did see the guy before i died and he was half the map away where my missles and ability to bearly see made him imposible to counter.
4: This was the small map with the 3 objectives, i jumped in my tank and headed for the middleish one C. I cozzied up behind the socket where there was a wall and I killed every single enemy that spawned in, I also had two blueberrys who actualy where pretty good shots in my turret for once and they also got a bunch of kills and assists. I used my Ressit mod and shield booster and the wall to dip in and out of danger, even when gettign hit by swarm launchers, forge guns, and AVG a few times. I never died and we won the battle, me going 25/0. Best tankign experiance i have ever had, and i also felt i used real skill aswell.
5: Same map as #4, the small one, was doing well till a blueberry in a rail tank ramed me from behind and we both insta exploded.... seriously... wtf.
6: One of the new loooong maps, Killed a few guys and a few turrets, when out of no where an enemy LAV ramed me from behind, the two passengers jumping out, both with proto AV granades, I died pretty quick. Wasent actualy mad about this one, that was a pretty smooth move on their part.
Im not QQing, just passing on my experiance, I know my skills are low, and am using a milita tank, so maybe allot fo this would have played out diferantly if I had a bad ass death machine. But i have to say that Red line Rail guns and proto swarms are almost unstopable forces that i have no way of dealign with and I think CCP needs to cut the range on them.
Anyway I will continue to update this a few times a week with my experiances, as good or bad as they come. I just wish tanks wernt so dang expensive. 300k is more than i can ever hope to gain in one match that isent near perfect. If you want I'll be back home in a week or so, I run MLT tanks exclusively and can help you out with fittings.... Aero made my fit, and Im improving on it slowly, plus for a newbie tanker I'm not too bad at killing Gunlogi's and Madrugars. |
Godin Thekiller
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
856
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Posted - 2013.09.23 23:38:00 -
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I wanna orbit someone to death........ |
Aislin Nolan
Commando Perkone Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.09.23 23:42:00 -
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True Adamance wrote: If you want I'll be back home in a week or so, I run MLT tanks exclusively and can help you out with fittings.... Aero made my fit, and Im improving on it slowly, plus for a newbie tanker I'm not too bad at killing Gunlogi's and Madrugars.
That reminds me, in fight #4 I also killed an enmy malita tank in a pretty cool 1v1, seams like my missles where hitting him far harder than he was hitting me tho.
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True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2255
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Posted - 2013.09.23 23:46:00 -
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Aislin Nolan wrote:True Adamance wrote: If you want I'll be back home in a week or so, I run MLT tanks exclusively and can help you out with fittings.... Aero made my fit, and Im improving on it slowly, plus for a newbie tanker I'm not too bad at killing Gunlogi's and Madrugars.
That reminds me, in fight #4 I also killed an enmy malita tank in a pretty cool 1v1, seams like my missles where hitting him far harder than he was hitting me tho. A well tanked Shield Missile tank is a scary thing to an armour tank.
Depends though, if you are in an MLT tank the best way to engage any tank better than yours is from the rear, though your Missile Sica will never best a Madrugar in a straight fight..... |
Aislin Nolan
Commando Perkone Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.09.23 23:52:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Aislin Nolan wrote:True Adamance wrote: If you want I'll be back home in a week or so, I run MLT tanks exclusively and can help you out with fittings.... Aero made my fit, and Im improving on it slowly, plus for a newbie tanker I'm not too bad at killing Gunlogi's and Madrugars.
That reminds me, in fight #4 I also killed an enmy malita tank in a pretty cool 1v1, seams like my missles where hitting him far harder than he was hitting me tho. A well tanked Shield Missile tank is a scary thing to an armour tank. Depends though, if you are in an MLT tank the best way to engage any tank better than yours is from the rear, though your Missile Sica will never best a Madrugar in a straight fight.....
Yeah I like my missles, they seam to hit harder than than a blaster, while still being ok Vs infantry unlike a rail turret. But sure when you get back to dust I wouldnt mind tankign together, i could use some lessons. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2256
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Posted - 2013.09.23 23:53:00 -
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Aislin Nolan wrote:True Adamance wrote:Aislin Nolan wrote:True Adamance wrote: If you want I'll be back home in a week or so, I run MLT tanks exclusively and can help you out with fittings.... Aero made my fit, and Im improving on it slowly, plus for a newbie tanker I'm not too bad at killing Gunlogi's and Madrugars.
That reminds me, in fight #4 I also killed an enmy malita tank in a pretty cool 1v1, seams like my missles where hitting him far harder than he was hitting me tho. A well tanked Shield Missile tank is a scary thing to an armour tank. Depends though, if you are in an MLT tank the best way to engage any tank better than yours is from the rear, though your Missile Sica will never best a Madrugar in a straight fight..... Yeah I like my missles, they seam to hit harder than than a blaster, while still being ok Vs infantry unlike a rail turret. But sure when you get back to dust I wouldnt mind tankign together, i could use some lessons. Yeah its much better to tank with a wing man, I can roll out a repper tank to keep you alive. |
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Aero Yassavi
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2197
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Posted - 2013.09.23 23:56:00 -
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Yesterday we were strolling around in 3 very well fitted Somas, it was great. |
Fire of Prometheus
DUST University Ivy League
435
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Posted - 2013.09.23 23:58:00 -
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I was rolling around an ambush in my soma and started getting chased by a sica. I drove off around a corner, called in my Madrugar and waited for the sica to come around the corner.
He rounded the corner guns blazing.....popped him in 3 shots from my rail cannon....I felt like such an awesome tanker
Moral of the story?.....I haven't figured one out yet |
Aislin Nolan
Commando Perkone Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.09.23 23:58:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Aislin Nolan wrote:True Adamance wrote:Aislin Nolan wrote:True Adamance wrote: If you want I'll be back home in a week or so, I run MLT tanks exclusively and can help you out with fittings.... Aero made my fit, and Im improving on it slowly, plus for a newbie tanker I'm not too bad at killing Gunlogi's and Madrugars.
That reminds me, in fight #4 I also killed an enmy malita tank in a pretty cool 1v1, seams like my missles where hitting him far harder than he was hitting me tho. A well tanked Shield Missile tank is a scary thing to an armour tank. Depends though, if you are in an MLT tank the best way to engage any tank better than yours is from the rear, though your Missile Sica will never best a Madrugar in a straight fight..... Yeah I like my missles, they seam to hit harder than than a blaster, while still being ok Vs infantry unlike a rail turret. But sure when you get back to dust I wouldnt mind tankign together, i could use some lessons. Yeah its much better to tank with a wing man, I can roll out a repper tank to keep you alive.
Well hopfuly if I save up enough skill points and isk ill be usuing gunlogis soon. That way ill live long enough to escape, or maybe recive reps.
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True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2256
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Posted - 2013.09.24 00:01:00 -
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Fire of Prometheus wrote:I was rolling around an ambush in my soma and started getting chased by a sica. I drove off around a corner, called in my Madrugar and waited for the sica to come around the corner. He rounded the corner guns blazing.....popped him in 3 shots from my rail cannon....I felt like such an awesome tanker Moral of the story?.....I haven't figured one out yet Lol I can one up that, and Aero can attest to this.
I called in my Maddy only to have a Gunlogi round the corner. It chased me around the caldera on Impact Ridge, twice until I managed lure it onto an unsuspecting friendly madrugar. I then got away, got out, recalled, and hopped on the Rail Turret across the Caldera and assited the Maddy with a broadside from the Railgun. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2256
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Posted - 2013.09.24 00:03:00 -
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Aislin Nolan wrote:
Well hopfuly if I save up enough skill points and isk ill be usuing gunlogis soon. That way ill live long enough to escape, or maybe recive reps.
I cant and wont be using Madrugars unless I use Aurum ot get them. I need to save SP for Amarr HAV. |
Aislin Nolan
Commando Perkone Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2013.09.24 00:06:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Aislin Nolan wrote:
Well hopfuly if I save up enough skill points and isk ill be usuing gunlogis soon. That way ill live long enough to escape, or maybe recive reps.
I cant and wont be using Madrugars unless I use Aurum ot get them. I need to save SP for Amarr HAV.
That may be awhile, i havent even heard of that on the drawign board for now. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2256
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Posted - 2013.09.24 00:08:00 -
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Aislin Nolan wrote:True Adamance wrote:Aislin Nolan wrote:
Well hopfuly if I save up enough skill points and isk ill be usuing gunlogis soon. That way ill live long enough to escape, or maybe recive reps.
I cant and wont be using Madrugars unless I use Aurum ot get them. I need to save SP for Amarr HAV. That may be awhile, i havent even heard of that on the drawign board for now. I know but I cannot stand the Gallentean stuff I deal with now.
I pretend my tank is gold plated so I don't throw up all of the internal controls.... |
Sgt Buttscratch
SLAPHAPPY BANDITS
810
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Posted - 2013.09.24 00:08:00 -
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I gets a little better as you go. Best advice is get in with some tanker groups, run tanks with tem, gun in their tanks, learn lil what nots here and there. I've learned quite a lot just running turret in a friends tanks. Main thing is, when you call in a tank consider it lost, if you survive, good game. |
Benjamin Ciscko
S.e.V.e.N.
54
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Posted - 2013.09.24 00:14:00 -
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Mejt0 wrote:Buddy its funny but average tank cost 1m. Swarms ...yes they are little to good but at same way they cant be weak. Rail snipers have hard. 1. Rendering is shi! And 2. If someone have nitros booster he will always run away.
Very average maddy fit: best 180mm plate.best hev rep, pg upgrade,2active hardeners, sac neutron blaster, nitros and heat sink II. With cores 4-5 Swap the 2nd active for a passive two carapace hardeners = 37.5% hardening one carapace active hardener and one passive hardener (not sure of the name) = 40% hardening plus it costs less you save about 38k a tank. |
CharCharOdell
Shining Flame Amarr Empire
974
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Posted - 2013.09.24 00:18:00 -
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'honey badger'
with the ' '
we'll help you |
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Benjamin Ciscko
S.e.V.e.N.
54
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Posted - 2013.09.24 00:18:00 -
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a good tank channel is TANKS R US. |
Godin Thekiller
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
859
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Posted - 2013.09.24 00:31:00 -
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Tried find something to orbit, got stuck on a hill and died due to swarms. |
pyramidhead 420
Krullefor Organization Minmatar Republic
41
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Posted - 2013.09.24 01:03:00 -
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CharCharOdell wrote:'honey badger'
with the ' '
we'll help you
go here^ ive never even typed in the chat, yet still learn something new/helpful every time i log in. ive noticed its kinda like a bar, with all the "big" tankers at it |
Aislin Nolan
Ghosts of Dawn
2
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Posted - 2013.10.15 03:01:00 -
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Ok so I did some more tanking today, allot more than usual and while i was enjoying it emensly my tank still seams to die in the most frustration ways.
The #1 most frustrating way I have died today, which consited of about 60% of my tank losses, was to maned and unmaned Railgun turrets, usualy on the other side of the map or even more usualy in the oponents red line. I took allot of care in clearing turrets out that could be used aginst me, but there is always one or two to far away to even render for be that I get blaped by, and i find that the AI turrets are far more ruthless than maned turrets, I had a turret AI head shot me out of a LAV today from across the map, leaving my LAV undamaged for a redberry to steal.
#2 Tank ramming, I had a blueberry ram my 500k tank in the butt and insta kill both of us, and i alway was in a fire fight with an enemy tank, was winning easily when right before he died he activated his after burners and ramed head long into me insta killing me again. I do agree I should take some damage but insta death just seams to harsh.
#3 proto breach forge gun, pretty much one shotted me from a tower (which i would never have been able to hit him, or really hide from him since he can see most the map from up there) while my hardeners where in cool down.
#4 Packed AV granades, no to mad about those since it just usualy means i got to close to the enemys, and liekly was avoidable.
Swarm launchers where much less of a problem today, and i even dodged trough cover to avoide some of them.
Over all PLEASE CCP REMOVE RED LINE RAILGUNS, AND NERF TURRET AI !!!! or better yet make them not shoot when not maned.
PS: also knock down turret distruction WPs from 100 to 50, just way to much for an uncaptured imobile gun. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
3071
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Posted - 2013.10.15 03:10:00 -
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Good points. Red Line Rails are often screw over tanks as they move around the map, with no consequences for those who use and abuse them, or simply auto target tanks. |
Flix Keptick
Red Star. EoN.
766
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Posted - 2013.10.15 03:24:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Aislin Nolan wrote:
Well hopfuly if I save up enough skill points and isk ill be usuing gunlogis soon. That way ill live long enough to escape, or maybe recive reps.
I cant and wont be using Madrugars unless I use Aurum ot get them. I need to save SP for Amarr HAV. You know that there will only be one skill to unlock all tanks right? |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
3073
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Posted - 2013.10.15 03:28:00 -
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Flix Keptick wrote:True Adamance wrote:Aislin Nolan wrote:
Well hopfuly if I save up enough skill points and isk ill be usuing gunlogis soon. That way ill live long enough to escape, or maybe recive reps.
I cant and wont be using Madrugars unless I use Aurum ot get them. I need to save SP for Amarr HAV. You know that there will only be one skill to unlock all tanks right? I DO NOW! Prior to the vehicle rebalance announcements, which was when I posted this, I didnt |
Bright Cloud
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
222
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Posted - 2013.10.15 03:38:00 -
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alot of those deaths are a harsh learning curve for vehicle players which deliver the following message:
"know every turret location, know every position where a AV guy could hide and think that every guy on the opposite team has AV grenades"
You allways have to assume the worst case scenario. Like when i play skirmish and havent died to a asault dropship (cause i was busy taking a objective) and he gets a lucky shot on me then he is certainly going to die a horrible and painfull death delivered by my ishukone assault forgegun. |
Rinzler XVII
Forsaken Immortals Top Men.
119
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Posted - 2013.10.15 08:02:00 -
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Fire of Prometheus wrote:I was rolling around an ambush in my soma and started getting chased by a sica. I drove off around a corner, called in my Madrugar and waited for the sica to come around the corner. He rounded the corner guns blazing.....popped him in 3 shots from my rail cannon....I felt like such an awesome tanker Moral of the story?.....I haven't figured one out yet
The moral of the story is that Recall and calling in functions are far to fast ..
so you were being followed by another tank and went round a corner and managed to recall your sica .. and call in a madrugar and get in the madrugar before the tank came round the corner ???
This may sound harsh but its a scrub move .. you could have had an even and fun battle yet instead you reverted to calling in a higher tier tank to kill the lower tier tank .. not even because you were already in the Madrugar but because you didn;t want to go sica v soma ...
Any half decent tanker would've been up for the challenge .. hell all tankers enjoy going same tier tank v same tier tank .. apart from you it seems ... |
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