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Judge Rhadamanthus
Seraphim Auxiliaries
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Posted - 2013.09.21 22:30:00 -
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I thought this needed to be made clear for those who don't use vehicles and for all to see the problems it causes. This is an example video with some slow-mo, and other editing to make the issue with enemies not rendering for dropship pilots nice and clear. You will see that a particular target renders when I am far but when twice as close he does not.
Swarms and forge enemies do this all the time and it is costing me and many others millions. The fix for this bug needs to be above the line for 1.5 if at all possible or 1.6 if that is more realistic.
Don't forget to set to 720p |
Sylwester Dziewiecki
Beyond Hypothetical Box
169
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Posted - 2013.09.22 17:06:00 -
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bump! |
Judge Rhadamanthus
Seraphim Auxiliaries
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Posted - 2013.09.22 17:12:00 -
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I have another example that ill post tomorrow. It will make all pilots stand up and go "see! see that BS!" Direct video proof that the issue cost me 1.2 million ISK. |
ratamaq doc
3dge of D4rkness
SoulWing Alliance
78
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Posted - 2013.09.22 19:26:00 -
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Judge Rhadamanthus wrote:I thought this needed to be made clear for those who don't use vehicles and for all to see the problems it causes. This is an example video with some slow-mo, and other editing to make the issue with enemies not rendering for dropship pilots nice and clear. You will see that a particular target renders when I am far but when twice as close he does not. Swarms and forge enemies do this all the time and it is costing me and many others millions. The fix for this bug needs to be above the line for 1.5 if at all possible or 1.6 if that is more realistic. Don't forget to set to 720p
Good video, good job pointing out the problem. Do you also do the voice for national geographic? |
Judge Rhadamanthus
Seraphim Auxiliaries
405
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Posted - 2013.09.22 19:32:00 -
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:) while flying with AV in 1.4 i'm not quite so... National geographic ;) in squad chat.... Also new video showing even more of this is literally uploading now. So much BS on show in this one. Swarms. invisible swarms.. lots of them. I'll post when it's up.
All my dropship videos are on my dropship channel here. Subscribe and see my newest rantings right away. |
Django Quik
Dust2Dust.
Top Men.
1504
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Posted - 2013.09.22 19:43:00 -
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Wow, that is crazy. I knew there were issues with stuff rendering at distance but that's a whole new load of WTF!? Great example vid. |
The-Errorist
Mannar Focused Warfare
Gallente Federation
221
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Posted - 2013.09.23 08:46:00 -
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Great vids. |
Bettie Boop 2100190003
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
168
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Posted - 2013.09.23 08:55:00 -
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And now with the vehicle update being pushed back even further, who knows when DS will get their dues. When they do, I hope they get their turn on the OP band wagon. |
Bright Cloud
Namtar Elite
Gallente Federation
204
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Posted - 2013.09.23 22:41:00 -
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Well the 3 other dudes "appearing out of nowhere" i would say they just uncloaked after spawning. And for those who are wondering why he crashed in that vid: shortly before the end he got hit by a forgegun which did more damage then he had remaining on armor. The reason why it looks like he hasnt lost barely any HP is due to the fact that armor reps are keep working even when you are about to crash (cause you had 0HP for less then a sec). But yeah that people appear and disappear seems to be a odd problem with fast moving vehicles. |
KalOfTheRathi
Black Phoenix Mercenaries
744
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Posted - 2013.09.24 01:08:00 -
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Working as designed. 
Grass and high texture detail is way more important than targeting ... anything, in particular at a distance. |
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Judge Rhadamanthus
Seraphim Auxiliaries
423
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Posted - 2013.09.24 07:56:00 -
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@ Bright Cloud
at 2:29 I have 455 armour then as I am running 2 armour reppers both giving 155 a pulse i go to 755 at 2:31. I used video editing software to pull a singe frame that you can't see in youtube due to youtubes encoding and it's slow playback interface. As you can see in this frame i do get hit and there are 2 frames where i have 0 HP according to the numbers but the graphic shows different. Thats 2 frames out of 30fps. not visible to the human eye.
However the graphic never dropped to zero. While I was correctly killed only a frame by frame analysis would prove it. This is confusing for players, and perhaps should be fixed.
Also it is not possible that those others spawned in just as i approached. They appear (original footage) in the same single frame. To do that they would have to have hit spawn at exactly the same time and the is damn near impossible. We are talking 1/30th of a second.
No. they failed to render. No question. |
ladwar
Dead Six Initiative
Lokun Listamenn
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Posted - 2013.09.24 11:05:00 -
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effects turrets and vehicles as well as stated infantry and their AV weapons.
thanks for the video proof. i have seen installations pop in just to pop back out when i spin my turret around to where they are no longer on screen, done this in my tank w/ all types of turrets. sometimes they don't even render. |
Gorra Snell
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
129
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Posted - 2013.09.24 21:39:00 -
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I have a vehicle alt who hardly ever play due to the associated economic problems...but on the rare occasions I do pull in a tank or two, I've been seeing this type of thing with turrets...I'll try to zoom in w/ a railgun, and either switching views or the zoom itself actually makes the turret dissappear, after which I have to get significantly closer to see it again. So, yeah....bump, +1, etc. |
Nguruthos IX
PEN 15 CLUB
1785
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Posted - 2013.09.25 08:47:00 -
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If you can, try to make a video of this rendering glitch affecting installations. Also how invisible swarms can hit you from max range where you're too far to render the infantry
I've had the same thing happen. Where:
1. See turret drop in but it's invisible - too far to render?
2. Approach and it shows up for a moment.
3. Get closer and it disappears
4. having been flying directly over it for a few seconds, then it decides to render.
* I've actually crashed into an invisible turret installation once while flying near ground level. Took a few seconds to figure out wtf killed me before it rendered in lol. GG
Also happens with infantry a lot and possibly vehicles?
As far as swarms there is a bug where if the player is not rendered then you neither see nor hear the missiles till they damage you.
Invisible swarms can come from either..
A. directly below you as shown in this video
B. Several hundred meters, where the swarm can see + lock on to your dropship but you cannot see the swarm player.
Those invisible+silent missiles will smack you around all over the place and you can only guess where they're coming from to within a 3KM radius somewhere (anywhere) on the map lol.
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Nguruthos IX
PEN 15 CLUB
1785
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Posted - 2013.09.25 08:49:00 -
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Bettie Boop 2100190003 wrote:And now with the vehicle update being pushed back even further, who knows when DS will get their dues. When they do, I hope they get their turn on the OP band wagon.
These bugs are completely awful but I'd still rather see a new racial DS, jet, or heavy air vehicle than get all the bugs fixed : / |
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