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Wallaby1
The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine
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Posted - 2013.09.21 13:09:00 -
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you want the AR nerfed?....................you are so dumb i dont know if i should be angry or concerned? seriously i hope ccp ignores you dumb asswipes , why do you guys have to ***** about EVERY SINGLE FRICKN THING FUUUUUUUUU its so annoying its not constructive, learn some patience you childish pricks >:c dust514 is a FREEEEEEEEEE GAAAAAAAME and its developing nicely!! |
Kasote Denzara
A Vulture
294
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Posted - 2013.09.21 13:11:00 -
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Actually, the AR's damage does need a small decrease, but not much. Everything received a damage boost some time ago to compensate for the terrible hit detection. AR, as easymode as it is, is the only weapon I've used since 1.4 that I noticed the need.
Added note: The few weapons that do need some tweaking are not actually needed to be changed damage wise, but rather either function or small hindrances, such as the Plasma Cannon (in all its glory). |
KGB Sleep
Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State
254
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Posted - 2013.09.21 13:16:00 -
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Kasote Denzara wrote:Actually, the AR's damage does need a small decrease, but not much. Everything received a damage boost some time ago to compensate for the terrible hit detection. AR, as easymode as it is, is the only weapon I've used since 1.4 that I noticed the need.
Added note: The few weapons that do need some tweaking are not actually needed to be changed damage wise, but rather either function or small hindrances, such as the Plasma Cannon (in all its glory).
Nope.
All other guns are kicking ass too. Play Dust and you'll see..
Plasma cannon needs love.
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Keri Starlight
Psygod9 D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
334
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Posted - 2013.09.21 13:18:00 -
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No, it's not developing nicely. Not even for a free game.
However, the AR is the last thing I would complain about where the core of this game needs so much help. I think the Forge Gun is ridiculous rather than the AR, but seriously, fix the damn game! Lack of content, 3 game modes (2 and a half), disconnections, poor matchmaking, lag, terrible hit detection, no vehicle locks, no trading system and I've just started!
Who cares about the AR, the Forge Gun or the MD at this point! Aaargh! |
Kasote Denzara
A Vulture
295
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Posted - 2013.09.21 13:24:00 -
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KGB Sleep wrote: Nope.
All other guns are kicking ass too. Play Dust and you'll see..
Plasma cannon needs love.
I'm supporting that all the other guns are fine. I use all the guns of this game every day. The perks of being skilled in everything at least to a standard level, if not advanced or even prototype.
Added note: The only problem(s) I see with the Plasma Cannon is the after-fire pause that prevents changing weapons. Also dealing with the PC is the lack of differences between the tiers of the weapon. It's my favorite weapon though. Currently have been running the below setup and going positive.
'Valor" Scout G-I
Plasma Cannon 'Dren' Scrambler Pistol Locus Grenade Compact Nanohive Basic Light Damage Modifier Kinetic Catalyzer Basic Cardiac Regulator
It's cheap, productive, and still usable. Might trade out the hive for a uplink though. Thoughts of that detail? |
Wallaby1
The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine
9
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Posted - 2013.09.21 13:24:00 -
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Keri Starlight wrote:No, it's not developing nicely. Not even for a free game.
However, the AR is the last thing I would complain about where the core of this game needs so much help. I think the Forge Gun is ridiculous rather than the AR, but seriously, fix the damn game! Lack of content, 3 game modes (2 and a half), disconnections, poor matchmaking, lag, terrible hit detection, no vehicle locks, no trading system and I've just started!
Who cares about the AR, the Forge Gun or the MD at this point! Aaargh! agreed theres alot better things to focus on than the damn AR people are just butt hurt cos a noob can kill them |
Upper Deckin
Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire
16
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Posted - 2013.09.21 13:32:00 -
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Wallaby1 wrote:you want the AR nerfed?....................you are so dumb i dont know if i should be angry or concerned? seriously i hope ccp ignores you dumb asswipes , why do you guys have to ***** about EVERY SINGLE FRICKN THING FUUUUUUUUU its so annoying its not constructive, learn some patience you childish pricks >:c dust514 is a FREEEEEEEEEE GAAAAAAAME and its developing nicely!!
Nerf 514 : Weapon patching game .
Dust 514 : Forum Nerf'd Shooter .
Dust Cry Some More .
Dust? 514 ...... people left playing .
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Keri Starlight
Psygod9 D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
335
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Posted - 2013.09.21 13:38:00 -
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Upper Deckin wrote:
Nerf 514 : Weapon patching game .
Dust 514 : Forum Nerf'd Shooter .
Dust Cry Some More .
Dust? 514 ...... people left playing .
Thank you for the laugh.
It's sad because it's true, but it still made me laugh. |
Beyond Creation
The Pyramid Order The Nova Foundry
20
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Posted - 2013.09.21 13:40:00 -
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Kasote Denzara wrote:KGB Sleep wrote: Nope.
All other guns are kicking ass too. Play Dust and you'll see..
Plasma cannon needs love.
I'm supporting that all the other guns are fine. I use all the guns of this game every day. The perks of being skilled in everything at least to a standard level, if not advanced or even prototype. Added note: The only problem(s) I see with the Plasma Cannon is the after-fire pause that prevents changing weapons. Also dealing with the PC is the lack of differences between the tiers of the weapon. It's my favorite weapon though. Currently have been running the below setup and going positive. 'Valor" Scout G-I Plasma Cannon 'Dren' Scrambler Pistol Locus Grenade Compact Nanohive Basic Light Damage Modifier Kinetic Catalyzer Basic Cardiac Regulator It's cheap, productive, and still usable. Might trade out the hive for a uplink though. Thoughts of that detail?
Logistics A-1 Series
Allotek Plasma Cannon TT-3 Assault Scrambler Pistol Locus Grenade Basic Nanite Injector Basic Repair Tool Active Scanner Enhanced Armour Repair Basic Armour Repair Enhanced Armour Plating
This is how I fit my plasma cannon.
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Oscar Neymar
Carbon 7 CRONOS.
36
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Posted - 2013.09.21 13:46:00 -
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Personally I think that the weapon's mechanic's are pretty much spot on as they are , or ever likely to be ...
Don't keep trying to get the game to adapt to you , adapt to the game or die , Simple !!!
If you agree with me, leave a 'LIKE' for the Dev's to see please
ps. then hopefully we can move onto something else , like Battlefield type maps which are destructible and therefore interactive
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Cosgar
ParagonX
5369
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Posted - 2013.09.21 13:47:00 -
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Nerfed? Probably not. Re-balanced? Most likely when the other two rifles come out and the AR won't have to be a placeholder. |
RA Drahcir
Psygod9 D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
228
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Posted - 2013.09.21 14:10:00 -
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Wallaby1 wrote:you want the AR nerfed?....................you are so dumb i dont know if i should be angry or concerned? seriously i hope ccp ignores you dumb asswipes , why do you guys have to ***** about EVERY SINGLE FRICKN THING FUUUUUUUUU its so annoying its not constructive, learn some patience you childish pricks >:c dust514 is a FREEEEEEEEEE GAAAAAAAME and its developing nicely!!
Says the CalAssault Duvoller |
Athena Sentinel
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
66
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Posted - 2013.09.21 14:44:00 -
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They are nerfing the AR in 1.5 its a fact. I use it all my SP is dumped into it.
I think more people have dumped more into AR because it is liked and a popular weapon. SO players with level 3 in laser are mad that a person wth +5 all SP in AR is doing better then them... well they should.
Players with +5 in lasers, and other weapons rock just as hard with them. Noobs want a nerf because they have gimped their character with bad SP choices and have level 3 in 5 different weapons instead of +5 in the weapon they use.
You have to specialise people... Nerfs are not the answer. |
Everything Dies
Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation
106
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Posted - 2013.09.21 15:17:00 -
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Wallaby1 wrote:you want the AR nerfed?....................you are so dumb i dont know if i should be angry or concerned? seriously i hope ccp ignores you dumb asswipes , why do you guys have to ***** about EVERY SINGLE FRICKN THING FUUUUUUUUU its so annoying its not constructive, learn some patience you childish pricks >:c dust514 is a FREEEEEEEEEE GAAAAAAAME and its developing nicely!! I use the AR, but I believe it is too effective right now. It doesn't need a nerf so much as it needs to better reflect the reality that hand-held automatic weapons are terrible at accurate fire; remove the reduction to AR kick bonus and see if that's enough to balance out the weapon's effectiveness. |
Buster Friently
Rosen Association
1700
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Posted - 2013.09.21 16:48:00 -
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Wallaby1 wrote:you want the AR nerfed?....................you are so dumb i dont know if i should be angry or concerned? seriously i hope ccp ignores you dumb asswipes , why do you guys have to ***** about EVERY SINGLE FRICKN THING FUUUUUUUUU its so annoying its not constructive, learn some patience you childish pricks >:c dust514 is a FREEEEEEEEEE GAAAAAAAME and its developing nicely!!
The AR is stupidly OP right now. It has been OP for a long time. No one really even runs alternate weapons anymore. The devs should probably just come up with a lore based reason that the entire universe uses only one firearm.
Oh, and Dust is developing into a failure nicely - we can't even break 4k players on the weekend now.
No one wants to play AR 514 anymore I guess.
Dust desperately needs diversity, and new ideas. This concept that dust needs to focus on getting the core right has been a disaster.
People will play a flawed but interesting game, but they will not play a perfect but dull game.
Hail AR 514, go AR or go home. |
Sgt Kirk
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
1906
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Posted - 2013.09.21 17:00:00 -
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If any of these dust people knew about eve lore they'd get it...or not. people are stupid idk.
Anyway, In EVE Gallente have blasters that have a really short range but incredibly high DPS. In EVE Gallente also rely on drones but we're not getting that anytime are we CCP?
Anyway, it's kind of hard when you have only have one pure assault rifle and one that has a side variation to be an assault rifle. (even though the AST. ScRf has more range ). People will have to wait until they see the other rifles before they complain but chances are they are going to complain even more because ((people are so stupid to the point where they complain about people using general purpose weapons a lot...even though it's the most widely used military class of weapon in and out of games.)) They'll have more range than the Gallente assault rifle, especially the rail rifle.
Wait, that was my inner thoughts, whoops. I'll put it in parenthesis because I think I should just leave it there. Makes a better point than what I was going to say anyway. |
Buster Friently
Rosen Association
1700
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Posted - 2013.09.21 17:04:00 -
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Sgt Kirk wrote:If any of these dust people knew about eve lore they'd get it...or not. people are stupid idk.
Anyway, In EVE Gallente have blasters that have a really short range but incredibly high DPS. In EVE Gallente also rely on drones but we're not getting that anytime are we CCP?
Anyway, it's kind of hard when you have only have one pure assault rifle and one that has a side variation to be an assault rifle. (even though the AST. ScRf has more range ). People will have to wait until they see the other rifles before they complain but chances are they are going to complain even more because ((people are so stupid to the point where they complain about people using general purpose weapons a lot...even though it's the most widely used military class of weapon in and out of games.)) They'll have more range than the Gallente assault rifle, especially the rail rifle.
Wait, that was my inner thoughts, whoops. I'll put it in parenthesis because I think I should just leave it there. Makes a better point than what I was going to say anyway.
Actually, the problem, here is that the Gallente rifle has too long of range.
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Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION
1279
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Posted - 2013.09.21 17:41:00 -
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Damage is a bit too high IMO.
I think the 10% damage buff to all weapons should be removed. It would give people enough time to find cover before they are annihilated. |
crychon
xCosmic Voidx The Superpowers
37
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Posted - 2013.09.21 17:45:00 -
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Keri Starlight wrote:No, it's not developing nicely. Not even for a free game.
However, the AR is the last thing I would complain about where the core of this game needs so much help. I think the Forge Gun is ridiculous rather than the AR, but seriously, fix the damn game! Lack of content, 3 game modes (2 and a half), disconnections, poor matchmaking, lag, terrible hit detection, no vehicle locks, no trading system and I've just started!
Who cares about the AR, the Forge Gun or the MD at this point! Aaargh! try aiming a fg it isn't all that easy you have to be dead on with it and the heavy suits that you have to use big a@@ target |
STABBEY
Black Phoenix Mercenaries
457
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Posted - 2013.09.21 17:54:00 -
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The cryhards will scream about nerfing any weapon that kills them.
Noobs: Nerf the AR!!
CCP: We totally F***** up the AR have fun noobs!
AR Vets: Sold all my isk to buy GTA 5 bye forever dust!!
That is what is going to happen lol... Good job cryhards.
When CCP "Balance" a weapon, its rendered useless IE another huge chunk of players will be quiting the game.
The more you cry and screw up the game, the more players will leave. GJ morons.
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DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
6435
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Posted - 2013.09.21 18:21:00 -
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So mad.
So bad.
Blueberries will be blueberries.
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crychon
xCosmic Voidx The Superpowers
38
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Posted - 2013.09.21 21:37:00 -
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it doesn't matter how they change the weapons or which weapons they change no one is going to be happy,,,,,,,i have found that no matter what you do you cannot please everyone, this game is free, it doesn't cost anything other than the internet that each person already pays for anyway,,,,you could give a group of people a nice large slice of chocolate pie with vanilla ice cream and there would be several in the group that would cry that they didn't like that flavor please change it,,,,,,come on peeps why not just be thankful that you have something like this to play,,,,your are not paying for it so why not ease up and you might find you really enjoy it or at least enjoy the companionship that you have developed making new friends |
OZAROW
WarRavens League of Infamy
701
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Posted - 2013.09.21 21:48:00 -
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Kasote Denzara wrote:KGB Sleep wrote: Nope.
All other guns are kicking ass too. Play Dust and you'll see..
Plasma cannon needs love.
I'm supporting that all the other guns are fine. I use all the guns of this game every day. The perks of being skilled in everything at least to a standard level, if not advanced or even prototype. Added note: The only problem(s) I see with the Plasma Cannon is the after-fire pause that prevents changing weapons. Also dealing with the PC is the lack of differences between the tiers of the weapon. It's my favorite weapon though. Currently have been running the below setup and going positive. 'Valor" Scout G-I Plasma Cannon 'Dren' Scrambler Pistol Locus Grenade Compact Nanohive Basic Light Damage Modifier Kinetic Catalyzer Basic Cardiac Regulator It's cheap, productive, and still usable. Might trade out the hive for a uplink though. Thoughts of that detail? Use a compact nano, repairs armor, little ammo,very little CPU an cheap. The uplink will soak up ur grid, make a fast uplink suit wit a militia code breaker for your match starter |
Tectonic Fusion
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
235
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Posted - 2013.09.21 22:19:00 -
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The AR is the most OP weapon DPS-wise. It kills faster than a Tac AR if all the shots hit until death.. Now that is ******* overpowered. |
t6677 g5667
Ametat Security Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2013.09.21 22:32:00 -
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Thor Odinson42 wrote:Damage is a bit too high IMO.
I think the 10% damage buff to all weapons should be removed. It would give people enough time to find cover before they are decemated with heavy suit. true, so ture. all i see for killfeed is militia assault rifle militia assault rifle militia assault rifle militia assault rifle GEK assault rifle duoble assault rifle
all from 80M. away, domination, ALL little kids camping and destroying other team of course. |
Th3rdSun
L.O.T.I.S.
464
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Posted - 2013.09.21 22:49:00 -
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Tectonic Fusion wrote:The AR is the most OP weapon DPS-wise. It kills faster than a Tac AR if all the shots hit until death.. Now that is ******* overpowered.
Wrong!
The most OP weapon is the Scramble Pistols.Fortunately,an overwhelming majority of people don't actually know how to aim,so they can't use them efficiently.
The ONLY thing that needs to be done with ARs to balance them is a decrease in ammo in the clip.Going down to about 40~45 shots max would dramatically change people's tactics of this game.You will see less lone wolfing and more people moving in larger packs.Multiple AR users will be forced to focus fire on single targets to bring them down faster.
Also,if you really want to balance them out,rebalance the damage mods to where stacking yields zero gains, or either take them out of the game completely.
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Beer Smasher
suckiest bunch of sucks
3
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Posted - 2013.09.21 23:08:00 -
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Wallaby1 wrote:you want the AR nerfed?....................you are so dumb i dont know if i should be angry or concerned? seriously i hope ccp ignores you dumb asswipes , why do you guys have to ***** about EVERY SINGLE FRICKN THING FUUUUUUUUU its so annoying its not constructive, learn some patience you childish pricks >:c dust514 is a FREEEEEEEEEE GAAAAAAAME and its developing nicely!! AR user i guess? |
Ludvig Enraga
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
515
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Posted - 2013.09.21 23:20:00 -
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Kasote Denzara wrote:KGB Sleep wrote: Nope.
All other guns are kicking ass too. Play Dust and you'll see..
Plasma cannon needs love.
I'm supporting that all the other guns are fine. I use all the guns of this game every day. The perks of being skilled in everything at least to a standard level, if not advanced or even prototype. Added note: The only problem(s) I see with the Plasma Cannon is the after-fire pause that prevents changing weapons. Also dealing with the PC is the lack of differences between the tiers of the weapon. It's my favorite weapon though. Currently have been running the below setup and going positive. 'Valor" Scout G-I Plasma Cannon 'Dren' Scrambler Pistol Locus Grenade Compact Nanohive Basic Light Damage Modifier Kinetic Catalyzer Basic Cardiac Regulator It's cheap, productive, and still usable. Might trade out the hive for a uplink though. Thoughts of that detail?
yeah, post your kdr (I mean how many kills exactly and how many deaths exactly per average match as well as if it's in PC, FW or pubs) with this setup before urging a conversation regarding it's merits. I run a similar set up except I have 14mil SP and I have a very poor experience with it: average ambush game is probably 7 kills, 9 deaths, 10 assists. If I go against a proto stomping crew it's 3 kills, 10 deaths.
I think it's not constructive and misleading to say things like " all weapons are fine, AR is just popular because ppl are use do play with it in other games". It's a lie. AR is quite openly OP. |
STABBEY
Black Phoenix Mercenaries
457
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Posted - 2013.09.22 00:34:00 -
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I've used an AR since closed beta, I've used AR's in every FPS I've played.
They stealth nerfed the duvole..
They rendered every other version of the AR's useless because every1 screamed to nerf them.
Now the 1 AR that actually does work you want nerfed because your MD and F@glock crutch got nerfed?
STFU already FFS.
Leave the 1 god damn AR we have left that actually works ALONE.
I've had max skills in the AR for months even when every1 specced into MD's and f@glocks, the AR users were getting ripped to shreds for months. Now that you have no click and kill FoTM weapon for easymode you wanna screw over the AR users?
Your logic sucks, IDGAF if the AR out DPS's BLABLA BLAAA REALITY:::: When your in a fire fight and both of you are strafeing EVERY ROUND IS NOT GOING TO HIT THE TARGET.
Quit acting like fcking babys GET GOOD grow the F*CK UP, Spec fully into a weapon lvl 5 in all skills then go head to head with an AR. THEN you can kill an AR user.
I go head to head with proto SCRifles, MD's, HMG's, Shotguns and get mowed down half the time, WHY YOU SAY?! Because those guys specialized into there weapons like I did my AR and mastered it.
I dont get mad and scream NERF IT IT KILLED ME WAAAAAAAAAAAAA
I adapt to the situation to get better, MAYBE you f*cking B*tches should specialize and get good before you scream NERF NERF.
How's that sound kids? |
Dexter307
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
374
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Posted - 2013.09.22 00:36:00 -
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Just increase its recoil. The gallente AR is for close range so more recoil would make it feel more like a cqc gun. |
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