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nicholas73
Starfox Merc Corp
47
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Posted - 2013.09.20 07:58:00 -
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Matchmaking was never fixed.
Yesterday I was involved with pubstomping 7 matches straight. Either I was with the pubstomping team or against.
In 1 match the opponent had 3 half-squads while our team had none.
You call this matchmaking?
I have been observing for quite some time and finally came to this conclusion:
Matchmaking was fixed on day 1 of 1.4
Although teams were unbalanced in numbers, they were balanced in skill, I was up against 5 guys in an ambush alone and still won.
But since it took way too long to get into a match it had to be changed.
How do you explain matchmaking being changed within 1 hour of downtime, and within a single day.
Easy, the went back to the matchmaking system used before.
Please admit that matchmaking was never fixed cause I cannot help but rant knowing that this was the fixed being hyped so much about. |
Kasote Denzara
A Vulture
287
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Posted - 2013.09.20 07:59:00 -
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Gear based matchmaking is the only option now. |
Nguruthos IX
PEN 15 CLUB
1756
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Posted - 2013.09.20 08:01:00 -
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Kasote Denzara wrote:Gear based matchmaking is the only option now.
this opinion shows your lack of critical thinking abilities. |
Shion Typhon
Intara Direct Action
Caldari State
259
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Posted - 2013.09.20 08:04:00 -
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Kasote Denzara wrote:Gear based matchmaking is the only option now.
Not match making, just servers, 3 types: 1) Militia + Standard, 2) Adv, 3) Proto.
Pubs = no squads, FW = single squads, PC = Full team
Just let people pick and be done with it. |
Kasote Denzara
A Vulture
287
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Posted - 2013.09.20 08:08:00 -
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Nguruthos IX wrote:this opinion shows your lack of critical thinking abilities.
Ignorance aside, I'll assume you are capable of simple thinking capacity.
Dust 514, much like EVE, has skills based around time. "SP". "Skill points". We get these over the course of times. Those of us, like myself, that have been around since the days of the beta have amassed SP. Our invested points, by default, give us the upper hand.
There's several types of Dust 514 players. Those that use prototype, those that want to and strive to, those that can but don't, those that don't and don't give a ****. I am the third. I have a nice little stockpile of suits and weapons.
Here's the scenario, kiddo. You're fresh, new, step into the Academy. "Hey, this game isn't so bad." Have a little fun. You leave the Academy. You step into a match stacked one side with proto users and the other with, at best, one or two own proto users.
What happens? Bro, can you even critical think? |
Ryme Intrinseca
Seraphim Auxiliaries
32
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Posted - 2013.09.20 08:19:00 -
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nicholas73 wrote:Matchmaking was never fixed.
Yesterday I was involved with pubstomping 7 matches straight. Either I was with the pubstomping team or against.
In 1 match the opponent had 3 half-squads while our team had none.
You call this matchmaking?
I have been observing for quite some time and finally came to this conclusion:
Matchmaking was fixed on day 1 of 1.4
Although teams were unbalanced in numbers, they were balanced in skill, I was up against 5 guys in an ambush alone and still won.
But since it took way too long to get into a match it had to be changed.
How do you explain matchmaking being changed within 1 hour of downtime, and within a single day.
Easy, the went back to the matchmaking system used before.
Please admit that matchmaking was never fixed cause I cannot help but rant knowing that this was the fixed being hyped so much about.
I don't think they just reverted back to 1.3. The game definitely throws up more 6 versus 2 (who leave, so it's then 6 versus 0) games than it did in 1.3.
The stupid thing is, the 6 (my squad) are all higher than average SP/KDR players. So these unbalanced/empty teams don't seem to be an effort at matchmaking.
It's still a lot better than 1.4 day one. If they change it it should just be a little tweak to make sure battles don't launch with empty teams. |
Jack McReady
DUST University
Ivy League
569
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Posted - 2013.09.20 08:29:00 -
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I dont mind having only scrubs in my team with militia stuff against a full proto team.
I find it more annoying when I get several matches in a row where my team is half empty  |
Coleman Gray
GunFall Mobilization
Covert Intervention
700
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Posted - 2013.09.20 08:29:00 -
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What if match making doesn't use squads as a criteria? and it uses total SP or WP? |
Korvin Lomont
United Pwnage Service
RISE of LEGION
191
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Posted - 2013.09.20 08:32:00 -
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Kasote Denzara wrote:Gear based matchmaking is the only option now.
+ähm no Matchmaking should be based on various stats like WP, SP and to some degree KDR and of course gear to some degree. |
meri jin
Goonfeet
Top Men.
464
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Posted - 2013.09.20 08:39:00 -
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There are only a little people playing, the system have a hard time to find matches.
The people who are still playing are most time very active player. |
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KingBabar
The Rainbow Effect
1171
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Posted - 2013.09.20 08:40:00 -
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You need a player base to have a working matchmaking system.... |
GSP GoTSoMePoT
WOLF AND IRON STRIKE FORCE
45
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Posted - 2013.09.20 08:58:00 -
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I would like to know what's up with matchmaking my self ??
Been playing domination , and it's like this .. You get lucky and you'er put on a team that's all proto or d*** near all proto or not ....
Was just in a game and the other team just let us take A then they clone us out ... We didn't even have a chants at winning ... |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
8675
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Posted - 2013.09.20 09:02:00 -
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My frequency of getting stomped entirely has been severely reduced. |
Omareth Nasadra
QcGOLD
93
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Posted - 2013.09.20 09:08:00 -
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not enough active players |
nicholas73
Starfox Merc Corp
47
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Posted - 2013.09.20 09:33:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:My frequency of getting stomped entirely has been severely reduced.
I thought so too but now that it happens on an everyday basis, I feel its entirely random now. |
nicholas73
Starfox Merc Corp
47
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Posted - 2013.09.20 09:34:00 -
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KingBabar wrote:You need a player base to have a working matchmaking system....
To have a strong player base, you need a good matchmaking system.
So it entirely depends on one another. |
Mirataf
WARRIORS 1NC
69
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Posted - 2013.09.20 09:39:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:My frequency of getting stomped entirely has been severely reduced.
You'll find playing more will help
:) 'jkin' |
KingBabar
The Rainbow Effect
1172
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Posted - 2013.09.20 10:50:00 -
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nicholas73 wrote:KingBabar wrote:You need a player base to have a working matchmaking system.... To have a strong player base, you need a good matchmaking system. So it entirely depends on one another.
I hardly think that the poor matchmaking is the main reason why people don't play Dust...
A good game will bring in players... |
CommanderBolt
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
300
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Posted - 2013.09.20 11:28:00 -
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I don't meant to sound harsh but the truth of the matter is - The matchmakers is ****, it does not work well. It sticks you in loads of half filled non balanced games. And for what?
We get all of the additional bugs, glitches, scotty errors. Oh look - members of my squad have got a black screen, or I have the damn glitch and have to relog....
A waste of time. Brought with it more pain and no solutions. |
GTA V FTW
Kang Lo Directorate
Gallente Federation
84
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Posted - 2013.09.20 12:01:00 -
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Working as Intended.
But yeah no player base = * CCP Scratching heads saying, " Yeah but it worked on paper????" * |
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M McManus
Sinq Laison Gendarmes
Gallente Federation
63
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Posted - 2013.09.20 12:03:00 -
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Shion Typhon wrote:Kasote Denzara wrote:Gear based matchmaking is the only option now. Not match making, just servers, 3 types: 1) Militia + Standard, 2) Adv, 3) Proto. Pubs = no squads, FW = single squads, PC = Full team Just let people pick and be done with it.
Lol tell me how that will work with 3k players and falling, 500 players in each category and 100 tryhard players in the proto category... I can only imagine the redlined games and disconnect issues with 500 players to choose from... |
GTA V FTW
Kang Lo Directorate
Gallente Federation
84
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Posted - 2013.09.20 12:10:00 -
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M McManus wrote:Shion Typhon wrote:Kasote Denzara wrote:Gear based matchmaking is the only option now. Not match making, just servers, 3 types: 1) Militia + Standard, 2) Adv, 3) Proto. Pubs = no squads, FW = single squads, PC = Full team Just let people pick and be done with it. Lol tell me how that will work with 3k players and falling, 500 players in each category and 100 tryhard players in the proto category... I can only imagine the redlined games and disconnect issues with 500 players to choose from...
Yeah but this is a AAA MMO.
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steadyhand amarr
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
1364
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Posted - 2013.09.20 13:12:00 -
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When your bleeding players it's hard to balance games |
Vell0cet
Royal Uhlans
Amarr Empire
259
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Posted - 2013.09.20 13:33:00 -
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Every player should have a "matchmaker rank" (it could just be an internal number that is only visible to CCP) that's based on average rank at the end of the match, SP, K/D, etc. When there is a total blowout match, the matchmaker should look at the winning team and look at the top players. If they have significantly higher stats than the median player on their team, then they should be "penalized" by having their matchmaking rank increased significantly. This will force them to play better players in the future. This system is self-correcting, and as players improve their gun-game and tactics, and get better skills and equipment then they will naturally rise higher in matchmaker rank, and players that are consistently struggling, (even despite high SP) will find themselves fighting easier opponents until they improve. |
Lv2spd2
Slow And Old
0
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Posted - 2013.09.20 17:32:00 -
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My usual squad has managed to LOSE two 6 on 0 ambush matches.
Someone always manages to suicide and theres no one on the other team to kill.
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DootDoot
Forty-Nine Fedayeen
Minmatar Republic
68
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Posted - 2013.09.20 17:39:00 -
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When there is no team on the other side... or you have two overpowered squad's on one side... and no one on the other... there should be an option to switch teams or auto balance teams before it leaves the war barge.
Specially if there is no one on the other side... what would be so bad about having the ability to manually switch teams? |
ABadMutha13
Nihil-Obstat Mercs
General Tso's Alliance
19
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Posted - 2013.09.20 17:57:00 -
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Logged in for 2 games to see how things had been updated.
First match 85% over.
Logged in using proto-suit could not cancel deployment.
Died from 3 people camping.
Logged in again and started walking towards battle.
Battle Ended
1500 SP
65,000 ISK
Laughed...
Logged into second match
Enemy Takes 5 out of 5 objectives.
I killed 6 enemy tanks and lost 1 myself.
435,000 ISK
11,000ish SP
Laughed....
Logged off...
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The Terminator T-1000
The Praetorian Legionary
43
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Posted - 2013.09.20 18:03:00 -
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I'd rather get stomped than changing the matchmaking. At least I can play the game and eventually I will get better.
I am tired of people complaining about everything! If u don't like it the leave! |
CharCharOdell
Shining Flame
Amarr Empire
941
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Posted - 2013.09.21 04:51:00 -
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im in favor of tiercide.
that way we get std av vs std tanks >:D |
crychon
xCosmic Voidx
The Superpowers
37
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Posted - 2013.09.21 06:20:00 -
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i was in a match all alone against nine
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