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Roy Ventus
Foxhound Corporation
General Tso's Alliance
497
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Posted - 2013.09.18 13:16:00 -
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>in b4, you make a thread about not-Eon to talk about Eon
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I want to know the other alliances besides Eon, and I want to know what there goals are. I'm asking for this, for research. Would much rather have it in a thread because it'll help promote the other alliances and get people informed and junk. So can I has info?
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Quickgloves
SVER True Blood
Public Disorder.
848
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Posted - 2013.09.18 13:42:00 -
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Roy Ventus wrote:>in b4, you make a thread about not-Eon to talk about Eon
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I want to know the other alliances besides Eon, and I want to know what there goals are. I'm asking for this, for research. Would much rather have it in a thread because it'll help promote the other alliances and get people informed and junk. So can I has info?
Public Disorder Is another Alliance besides Eon. Future goals of PD are simple. use Molden Heath PC to get rich an train for null sec engagement. When the full merger of worlds is complete the leaders in PD want its members to be top notch an ready to go!
http://evemaps.dotlan.net/alliance/Public_Disorder. |
Nomed Deeps
The Exemplars
Top Men.
219
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Posted - 2013.09.18 13:50:00 -
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LOL
Public Disorder is merely a different tag but is still EoN. |
Roy Ventus
Foxhound Corporation
General Tso's Alliance
497
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Posted - 2013.09.18 13:54:00 -
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Nomed Deeps wrote:LOL
Public Disorder is merely a different tag but is still EoN.
;3 Well how about you discuss the Top Men alliance, aye? |
Nomed Deeps
The Exemplars
Top Men.
219
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Posted - 2013.09.18 14:13:00 -
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How about some quid pro quo and you provide some info about General Tso's first?  |
NAV HIV
The Generals
EoN.
444
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Posted - 2013.09.18 14:31:00 -
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Top men and GTA are you guys going to join PC anytime soon ? |
Roy Ventus
Foxhound Corporation
General Tso's Alliance
497
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Posted - 2013.09.18 14:50:00 -
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Nomed Deeps wrote:How about some quid pro quo and you provide some info about General Tso's first?
You really want to know about Tso's? I couldn't tell you that much tbh. General Tso's is a rather laid-back alliance that would be great for faction-warfare, Roleplay, beginning corps, and non-competitive corps. General Tso's started off in EVE and is known somewhat, I believe. They're a cool group but pilots can be a bit QQ at times but that's not just a General Tso's thing tho.
They backed the FSC which was also lead by a group consisting of myself, Burseg, Shiny, KatanaPT, and some others I can't think of. We had one significant event where we almost declared war against Imps because of a forum post chest-beating.
The FSC also planned to aid the schools in keeping their districts when SI/Imps/PFB/other asses decided to take it from them to teach a lesson. We actually never made a full effort on that but that's due to our low numbers, not being able to get into PC ourselves, and clones costing 80 Mil a box.
Back to Tso's, there's no current organized goal other than getting districts. I'm obviously interested in other alliances and them not being competitive is a main reason for this thread >.>. Had some good history with them but yeah. |
Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe.
RISE of LEGION
1256
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Posted - 2013.09.18 15:12:00 -
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I don't recommend anyone try to enter PC that is currently not there.
The learning curve is simply too steep. Even if you have the skill to compete you are at a HUGE disadvantage. The people you are going to face to make any kind of real dent in PC have hundreds of battles under their belt as a team while you likely have a few at best. People have spent months developing weird squad tactics to attempt to overcome the stupidity of blueberries in pub matches. It's a totally different game.
Public Disorder is the only alliance that is in a position to rival EON. They bought their districts and paid for protection to build a foothold. They were smart. They fought alongside the best and learned from them as they built their small (in comparison to EON) empire. I talked a lot of smack to SVER because of this, but in reality it was a smart way to do it. Perhaps everybody else is a fool for not taking the easy road.
Thinking about taking on EON is foolish. It's simply not going to happen. We will wait for CCP to drastically change the mechanics of PC as their collective wealth reaches trillions. Opening the Eve/Dust market for transfer from Eve to Dust wouldn't have done as much damage to our economy as this situation will end up doing.
The funny thing about this is, is that EON knows this but very few others do. Participation in PC is small amongst the community that posts on the forums and even smaller by those that don't frequent the forums. At this point they could allow 1:1 transfers of Eve ISK to Dust and I'm not sure it would help sway the balance of power.
PC is beyond broken. If you approach it as a training opportunity and not some long term goal then I think you'll be okay, but anything beyond that is a recipe for disaster for your corp. Take heed of that warning. |
Nomed Deeps
The Exemplars
Top Men.
222
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Posted - 2013.09.18 15:22:00 -
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Quote:Top men and GTA are you guys going to join PC anytime soon ?
Top Men has actually been in and out of PC since PC began. We always last a while where we start to get comfortable to think about expansion and end up getting continually attacked from all sides until we are almost totally wiped out of PC. We finally lost our last non-PFC district at the end of last week. Fortunately, we are not like many other alliances and corps that simply collapse after PC losses as we try to learn from our losses. We plan to be around for a while.
Unfortunately only EoN and those tied to EoN are seeing significant growth in numbers as the majority rather follow on the easy path rather than put in the effort to make one of their own. |
Soraya Xel
New Eden's Most Wanted
Top Men.
581
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Posted - 2013.09.18 15:38:00 -
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Thor Odinson42 wrote:At this point they could allow 1:1 transfers of Eve ISK to Dust and I'm not sure it would help sway the balance of power.
This isn't true. Goons blows up their own stuff worth more than EoN's total sum holdings on a regular basis just for the lulz. EoN runs a very clean game in a very small sandbox, but they are not prepared for the beach. |
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Dust User
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
15
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Posted - 2013.09.18 15:52:00 -
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ROFL |
Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe.
RISE of LEGION
1262
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Posted - 2013.09.18 19:58:00 -
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Soraya Xel wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote:At this point they could allow 1:1 transfers of Eve ISK to Dust and I'm not sure it would help sway the balance of power. This isn't true. Goons blows up their own stuff worth more than EoN's total sum holdings on a regular basis just for the lulz. EoN runs a very clean game in a very small sandbox, but they are not prepared for the beach.
Who would the Goons hire to take out Eon? Perhaps if the funded something such as what the FEC tried to do.
And I think if you looked at the maximum that an Dust player can earn in Dust vs what an Eve player can earn I think in a trillion Dust ISK is an unimaginable number in Eve. |
DaddyKillsEmAll
United Pwnage Service
RISE of LEGION
104
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Posted - 2013.09.18 20:10:00 -
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Killar-12
The Corporate Raiders
Top Men.
1169
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Posted - 2013.09.18 20:46:00 -
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Thor Odinson42 wrote:Soraya Xel wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote:At this point they could allow 1:1 transfers of Eve ISK to Dust and I'm not sure it would help sway the balance of power. This isn't true. Goons blows up their own stuff worth more than EoN's total sum holdings on a regular basis just for the lulz. EoN runs a very clean game in a very small sandbox, but they are not prepared for the beach. Who would the Goons hire to take out Eon? Perhaps if they funded something such as what the FEC tried to do. And I think if you looked at the maximum that an Dust player can earn in Dust vs what an Eve player can earn I think a trillion Dust ISK is an unimaginable number in Eve.
Why would the goons fight EoN? there's other ways to get rid of them... |
Soraya Xel
New Eden's Most Wanted
Top Men.
589
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Posted - 2013.09.18 20:49:00 -
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It'd be pretty premature to predict how Goons (or any other EVE entity) would react towards DUST alliances at this juncture. As they have no meaningful reason to connect. As it is, once a stronger connection exists, DUST alliances which want to be relevant will need to buddy up into an EVE coalition, if not outright merging into an EVE alliance. |
Nomed Deeps
The Exemplars
Top Men.
227
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Posted - 2013.09.18 21:42:00 -
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Quote:once a stronger connection exists
CCP seems to not want any further integration between EVE and DUST which is quite disappointing. If you don't believe me, when is the last time you heard CCP state anything new coming with EVE/DUST integration from either side? I've submitted ideas how integration could be increased without it affecting most DUST players but saw little player response and never saw a single response from CCP. If you ask me, CCP not commenting on further integration between EVE and DUST does not bode well for DUST. After all, DUST's integration with EVE is a big part of what was supposed to set DUST apart from other FPSs. |
Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe.
RISE of LEGION
1264
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Posted - 2013.09.18 22:14:00 -
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Killar-12 wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote:Soraya Xel wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote:At this point they could allow 1:1 transfers of Eve ISK to Dust and I'm not sure it would help sway the balance of power. This isn't true. Goons blows up their own stuff worth more than EoN's total sum holdings on a regular basis just for the lulz. EoN runs a very clean game in a very small sandbox, but they are not prepared for the beach. Who would the Goons hire to take out Eon? Perhaps if they funded something such as what the FEC tried to do. And I think if you looked at the maximum that an Dust player can earn in Dust vs what an Eve player can earn I think a trillion Dust ISK is an unimaginable number in Eve. Why would the goons fight EoN? there's other ways to get rid of them also what threat does EoN pose?
So you are speculating like 5 years from now that there will be something other than FPS in Dust that will enable you to win battles.
Without CCP directly taking districts from EON or EON leaving the game there is no way to take any sizable amount of land from them. Any land taken they can throw clone packs and/or transfer clones at a rate that nobody could withstand to take the land back.
A corp like AE could possibly take 10 or 20 districts, but it would take over 2 billion ISK to take 20 districts if you had a success rate against them higher than anyone has been able to manage thus far. Because of this and the feeling by the vast majority of Dust that you can't hold the districts then it doesn't seem like a wise investment.
This is why the elite corps not in Eon have resorted to ringing for a corp like SVER. There is no risk and a bigger profit.
I've mentioned it for months now that drastically lowering to sale price of clones on the front and back end would lead to more fun and more action in MH. I'd even propose making them free for a week or two as an event. Possibly make the payout double for the winner and the current payout for the loser. Not as a longterm solution, but to bring some kind of fun back into it. Hell open up another system and make it free, something to liven things up. |
Eugene Killmore
Red Star.
EoN.
170
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Posted - 2013.09.18 22:51:00 -
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Here is a few hot and up and comming alliances to look out for in the future. You heard it here 1st yo.
1 .Orion Empire ... whoa these guys the OG district lockers.. Innovators
2. CRONOS. All of Europe UNITED. these guys are the master of the off timer.
3. Negative Feedback ... this humble group of players made a community founded on mutual respect and friendship
4. ROFL .... Where do I start hmm imagine all the fail MAG clans of Valor and Raven United under one zerg.
5. League of Infamy ... This alliance is bannanas I think there like mystical space genies or some ish. have magic powers?
6. FEC ... Great chain of command. Lots of financial backing and a great non whiney playerbase. good stuff |
XxWarlordxX97
Ancient Exiles
4588
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Posted - 2013.09.18 22:54:00 -
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Eugene Killmore wrote:Here is a few hot and up and comming alliances to look out for in the future. You heard it here 1st yo.
1 .Orion Empire ... whoa these guys the OG district lockers.. Innovators
2. CRONOS. All of Europe UNITED. these guys are the master of the off timer.
3. Negative Feedback ... this humble group of players made a community founded on of mutual respect and friendship
4. ROFL .... Where do I start hmm imagine all the fail MAG clans of Valor and Raven United under one zerg.
5. League of Infamy ... This alliance is bannanas I think there like mystical space genies or some ish. have magic powers?
6. FEC ... Great chain of command. Lots of financial backing and a great non whiney playerbase. good stuff
NF be kind, are you new here |
Killar-12
The Corporate Raiders
Top Men.
1171
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Posted - 2013.09.18 23:14:00 -
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Thor Odinson42 wrote:Killar-12 wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote:Soraya Xel wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote:At this point they could allow 1:1 transfers of Eve ISK to Dust and I'm not sure it would help sway the balance of power. This isn't true. Goons blows up their own stuff worth more than EoN's total sum holdings on a regular basis just for the lulz. EoN runs a very clean game in a very small sandbox, but they are not prepared for the beach. Who would the Goons hire to take out Eon? Perhaps if they funded something such as what the FEC tried to do. And I think if you looked at the maximum that an Dust player can earn in Dust vs what an Eve player can earn I think a trillion Dust ISK is an unimaginable number in Eve. Why would the goons fight EoN? there's other ways to get rid of them also what threat does EoN pose? So you are speculating like 5 years from now that there will be something other than FPS in Dust that will enable you to win battles. Without CCP directly taking districts from EON or EON leaving the game there is no way to take any sizable amount of land from them. Any land taken they can throw clone packs and/or transfer clones at a rate that nobody could withstand to take the land back. A corp like AE could possibly take 10 or 20 districts, but it would take over 2 billion ISK to take 20 districts if you had a success rate against them higher than anyone has been able to manage thus far. Because of this and the feeling by the vast majority of Dust that you can't hold the districts then it doesn't seem like a wise investment. This is why the elite corps not in Eon have resorted to ringing for a corp like SVER. There is no risk and a bigger profit. I've mentioned it for months now that drastically lowering to sale price of clones on the front and back end would lead to more fun and more action in MH. I'd even propose making them free for a week or two as an event. Possibly make the payout double for the winner and the current payout for the loser. Not as a longterm solution, but to bring some kind of fun back into it. Hell open up another system and make it free, something to liven things up.
I can't and won't speak for any alliance or corp mates but use griefers in LARGE QUANTITIES make their lives hell, make them expect an AWOX every match make dust bunnies the paranoid psycopaths that EVE players are. CCP could make EVE players nessecary to doing PC or transferring clones between planets, Talk about EVE-DUST connections! I could think of dozens of ways to screw EoN, but by far the best, is to let EVE players who play dust get strong until DUST comes to PS4.
PS Warlord that's RS's CEO he's well different thanCubs or Mav, he's more of a person who doesn't care for meta, he likes fights, results and such... |
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Killar-12
The Corporate Raiders
Top Men.
1194
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Posted - 2013.09.18 23:23:00 -
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Nomed Deeps wrote:Quote:once a stronger connection exists CCP seems to not want any further integration between EVE and DUST which is quite disappointing. If you don't believe me, when is the last time you heard CCP state anything new coming with EVE/DUST integration from either side? I've submitted ideas how integration could be increased without it affecting most DUST players but saw little player response and never saw a single response from CCP. If you ask me, CCP not commenting on further integration between EVE and DUST does not bode well for DUST. After all, DUST's integration with EVE is a big part of what was supposed to set DUST apart from other FPSs. If I am wrong about CCP's lack of comment concerning further EVE/DUST integration not boding well for DUST, I welcome someone from CCP to inform me otherwise.
1 million ISK that the next step in Eve-Dust integration is going be through FW, no way we're heading to 0.0 for 1 year at minimum I wish more integration would come but with the state of the game it might be a good thing to keep them separated or to limit dust's effect on EVE |
mini rehak
The Southern Legion
The Umbra Combine
95
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Posted - 2013.09.19 12:27:00 -
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Hey guys over here. We have an alliance :D |
Roy Ventus
Foxhound Corporation
General Tso's Alliance
498
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Posted - 2013.09.19 13:32:00 -
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mini rehak wrote:Hey guys over here. We have an alliance :D
Tell me about it then. |
Omareth Nasadra
QcGOLD
90
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Posted - 2013.09.19 14:03:00 -
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Killar-12 wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote:Soraya Xel wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote:At this point they could allow 1:1 transfers of Eve ISK to Dust and I'm not sure it would help sway the balance of power. This isn't true. Goons blows up their own stuff worth more than EoN's total sum holdings on a regular basis just for the lulz. EoN runs a very clean game in a very small sandbox, but they are not prepared for the beach. Who would the Goons hire to take out Eon? Perhaps if they funded something such as what the FEC tried to do. And I think if you looked at the maximum that an Dust player can earn in Dust vs what an Eve player can earn I think a trillion Dust ISK is an unimaginable number in Eve. Why would the goons fight EoN? there's other ways to get rid of them also what threat does EoN pose?
twould be really interresting and funny if in the future PC would have an impact on EVE ressource, like lets say oxygen isotopes market 
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Paradoxical Nature
Goonfeet
Top Men.
42
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Posted - 2013.09.19 17:57:00 -
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Molden Heath is a very small region, in an out of the way part of Space in New Eden. It's very poor in all the materials that EvE Pilots want and, doesn't see a lot of Activity. It makes it the perfect test-ground for PC., but that's what it is a 'Testing Ground.' Until PC means something to Line Members, Dust Corporations, And EvE Players. A something has to be something to risk hundreds of billions of ISK to secure and hold AND effect Null Sec Politics; a lot of EvE Backed Corps aren't going to waste their time and resources |
Killar-12
The Corporate Raiders
Top Men.
1202
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Posted - 2013.09.19 20:19:00 -
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Omareth Nasadra wrote:Killar-12 wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote:Soraya Xel wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote:At this point they could allow 1:1 transfers of Eve ISK to Dust and I'm not sure it would help sway the balance of power. This isn't true. Goons blows up their own stuff worth more than EoN's total sum holdings on a regular basis just for the lulz. EoN runs a very clean game in a very small sandbox, but they are not prepared for the beach. Who would the Goons hire to take out Eon? Perhaps if they funded something such as what the FEC tried to do. And I think if you looked at the maximum that an Dust player can earn in Dust vs what an Eve player can earn I think a trillion Dust ISK is an unimaginable number in Eve. Why would the goons fight EoN? there's other ways to get rid of them also what threat does EoN pose? twould be really interresting and funny if in the future PC would have an impact on EVE ressource, like lets say oxygen isotopes market
Unless it's on PS4 EoN won't matter |
mini rehak
The Southern Legion
The Umbra Combine
96
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Posted - 2013.09.19 22:29:00 -
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Roy Ventus wrote:mini rehak wrote:Hey guys over here. We have an alliance :D Tell me about it then.
Well we are an alliance. We enjoy shooting people in the face parts. I'm pretty sure everyone likes each other.
(I am not the guy to talk to about this, I just wanted to throw our alliance out there) |
Patrick57
GunFall Mobilization
Covert Intervention
286
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Posted - 2013.09.20 00:52:00 -
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Roy Ventus wrote:>in b4, you make a thread about not-Eon to talk about Eon
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I want to know the other alliances besides Eon, and I want to know what there goals are. I'm asking for this, for research. Would much rather have it in a thread because it'll help promote the other alliances and get people informed and junk. So can I has info?
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