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Spirit Charm
Bhaalgorn Industries
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Posted - 2013.09.15 23:16:00 -
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I have like four alts two on two accounts. I like playing on this one and have another one I am setting up for Tanks. But the sp is so low. I gave her the Passive sp gain. but now my main is lacking in that I didnt play for a few days and I want to spend sp oh wait I didnt gain anymore.
Dont make me choose one over the other. And I dont have time to play 15 games a day on one toon to gain as much sp as a Passive gives in a single day. Then log off jump on other account and do the same just so all four alts get the same amount of sp gain as each other. I wish to gain sp passive and 15 matchs on whom ever I want to gain that 15+ match sp gain.
I want spirit to gain passive and Boom girl as well. So I dont suffer sp gain that I normally would get if I had the passive on spirit and did 15 matchs on her as well. Just let me have sp passive gain on all toons. Make it baked into a toon from the start and all characters ppl create. Thank you. Also. can the number of toons be up to 4? instead of 3. Thank you again. |
Fiddler Galaine
Northwind Alliance
Dark Taboo
20
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Posted - 2013.09.16 03:53:00 -
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It really doesn't make sense. If people want more passive SP characters, they're just going to make more accounts anyway. |
Mobius Kaethis
Molon Labe.
RISE of LEGION
779
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Posted - 2013.09.16 03:59:00 -
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This is a great idea. People who want additional passive gaining alts right now just make new psn accounts. There is no real reason to not allow passive sp growth on alts that I can think of. |
Spirit Charm
Bhaalgorn Industries
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Posted - 2013.09.17 01:54:00 -
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exactly! |
Lt Royal
Subdreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
1759
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Posted - 2013.09.17 02:05:00 -
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Just make more PSN accounts and youGÇÖll have the passive SP applied. I made 6 toons in the beta and now each of them have around 6-8 million to play with....
Also I doubt theyGÇÖll do as you ask considering EVE Online has only 3 character slots per account, but they have just only recently added in the ability to train 2 character slots at the same time (passively). The only twist you have to apply a PLEX (game time) to get this to work and considering Dust is F2P I can't see them implementing that anytime soon.... |
Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
4196
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Posted - 2013.09.17 02:08:00 -
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I don't see a problem with this anyways. I mean, it's not like we have a limit on the number of accounts we can make within the PlayStation Network. And considering that Dust is F2P and these accounts don't require payment of any kind, it's easy to make an infinite amount of them. |
Spirit Charm
Bhaalgorn Industries
57
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Posted - 2013.09.17 02:10:00 -
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Lt Royal wrote:Just make more PSN accounts and youGÇÖll have the passive SP applied. I made 6 toons in the beta and now each of them have around 6-8 million to play with....
Dont want to have to make more psn accounts already have two. Annoying to have to log off and then off the User and back on to the other account and start dust over just to get on a toon that is suited for tanking. I would like to be able to just log off while in the game. Also. Why not? It doesnt hurt anyone. And ppl do it still with more then one psn account. Why not just make it more convenient! |
Vell0cet
Royal Uhlans
Amarr Empire
226
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Posted - 2013.09.17 03:39:00 -
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You can run passive boosters on your Alt characters in case you weren't aware. |
Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
4199
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Posted - 2013.09.17 04:17:00 -
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Vell0cet wrote:You can run passive boosters on your Alt characters in case you weren't aware.
That's not the point. The point here is that we can achieve the same thing for free by simply making an infinite number of PSN accounts as a way to circumvent the one-passive-training-per-account limit. |
KEROSIINI-TERO
Seraphim Initiative..
738
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Posted - 2013.09.17 10:35:00 -
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Mobius Kaethis wrote:This is a great idea. People who want additional passive gaining alts right now just make new psn accounts. There is no real reason to not allow passive sp growth on alts that I can think of.
Agreed to this.
The only reason CCP would be against this is:
Aurum is spread across your account, not characters.
New PSN accounts need new investemnts, if AUR is needed.
Note that this matters only if the said alt account has any need for AUR (most likely no). |
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Vell0cet
Royal Uhlans
Amarr Empire
227
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Posted - 2013.09.17 13:34:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:Vell0cet wrote:You can run passive boosters on your Alt characters in case you weren't aware. That's not the point. The point here is that we can achieve the same thing for free by simply making an infinite number of PSN accounts as a way to circumvent the one-passive-training-per-account limit.
I understand what the point was. I was just letting the OP know about the booster option, some people may think that they only work on a character that has training on. |
Draco Cerberus
Hellstorm Inc
League of Infamy
315
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Posted - 2013.09.17 14:16:00 -
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Vell0cet wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:Vell0cet wrote:You can run passive boosters on your Alt characters in case you weren't aware. That's not the point. The point here is that we can achieve the same thing for free by simply making an infinite number of PSN accounts as a way to circumvent the one-passive-training-per-account limit. I understand what the point was. I was just letting the OP know about the booster option, some people may think that they only work on a character that has training on.
I didn't get that impression at all. The impression I got was that it is really stupid in a F2P game to not allow passive gain on all toons on a given account due to a limitless supply of PSN accounts. I agree with the OP, and feel this is something that was missing all along. Also, if EVE would have triple alt training for the cost of the Subscription it would make a lot more sense to me for a person to have more than one character on an account. |
Evolution-7
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
71
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Posted - 2013.09.17 15:10:00 -
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Allow passice SP on same PSN alts! |
Bendtner92
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
1073
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Posted - 2013.09.17 15:45:00 -
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CCP isn't going to change this. We brought it up when they removed it around a year ago (yes, all three characters got passive SP before that) and they gave their answer on this by not commenting on the issue at all, just like they do with all the other issues they don't want us talking about.
So no matter what you say they're not going to give all three characters passive SP again. |
Awry Barux
Shining Flame
Amarr Empire
46
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Posted - 2013.09.17 16:12:00 -
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Bendtner92 wrote:CCP isn't going to change this. We brought it up when they removed it around a year ago (yes, all three characters got passive SP before that) and they gave their answer on this by not commenting on the issue at all, just like they do with all the other issues they don't want us talking about.
So no matter what you say they're not going to give all three characters passive SP again.
Dear CCP: You can't stop me from having lots of alts and passive SP. I have 4+ PSN accounts just for the purpose of DUST, and I've bought AUR on two of them. So please, just give us all a quality of life upgrade and let passive SP work on all characters on one account. |
Bendtner92
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
1073
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Posted - 2013.09.17 16:14:00 -
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Awry Barux wrote:Dear CCP: You can't stop me from having lots of alts and passive SP. I have 4+ PSN accounts just for the purpose of DUST, and I've bought AUR on two of them. So please, just give us all a quality of life upgrade and let passive SP work on all characters on one account.
We said exactly this a year ago. Their answer was to not comment on the issue and hoping we would keep quiet about it.
Nothing is going to happen about this. |
Cross Atu
Conspiratus Immortalis
Covert Intervention
1701
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Posted - 2013.09.17 17:55:00 -
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They just added the ability to train sub-toons on EVE (for PLEX) so it seems reasonable that the could add at least a 50% passive SP gain to alts on an account. At that level you'd still be getting enough SP to try new things out but it certainly wouldn't diminish game longevity etc. it honestly might even help because fewer people would bother to create alts on new PSNIDs if they were at least getting something from passive SP on all their characters within an account.
0.02 ISK
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Spirit Charm
Bhaalgorn Industries
58
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Posted - 2013.09.18 03:17:00 -
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I feel like this post should be more popular so CCP would have to respond. If they wont fix such a obviously simple thing that would help with the longevity of the game. Then at least respond and tell us why? Its not gonna break the game. Its only asking so we can keep our alts on one PSN account instead of making multiple accounts!
Please CCP, please make this a thing! |
Spirit Charm
Bhaalgorn Industries
58
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Posted - 2013.09.20 02:48:00 -
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Poop this back to the top! |
Stile451
Red Star.
EoN.
235
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Posted - 2013.09.20 15:49:00 -
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I'm more likely to spend aurum on an alt if it's on the same account. I have just under 40,000 aurum to burn and I would most likely have used some of it on my alt(passive boosters most likely) but guess what it's on a second PSN account so it can gain passive SP. I have no intention of spending money on a secondary account that I may or may not end up using. |
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Eris Ernaga
Super Nerds
585
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Posted - 2013.09.21 19:05:00 -
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Exactly, they should give passive to all characters maybe for a fee? Because people will just make multiple accounts so they can't really enforce their system. |
Spirit Charm
Bhaalgorn Industries
66
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Posted - 2013.09.22 05:59:00 -
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holy crap I made it to the weekly updates YAY!!!! I had a good Idea!!! AND SOMEONE CARES!!! Now we just need to support this idea so CCP makes it happen! |
Kierkegaard Soren
Ametat Security
Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2013.09.22 07:29:00 -
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Allow it as a purchase, using Aurum, that functions a little like EVE's PLEX; you buy it, tag it an alt and it runs for a month. No limit as to how many you can buy and tag. |
Spirit Charm
Bhaalgorn Industries
66
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Posted - 2013.09.23 20:34:00 -
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Kierkegaard Soren wrote:Allow it as a purchase, using Aurum, that functions a little like EVE's PLEX; you buy it, tag it an alt and it runs for a month. No limit as to how many you can buy and tag.
that is stupid. I get how there are ppl out there with so much money they dont know what to buy with it and so they use it on stupid sht like video games. BUT why would anyone pay for what they get free already?! I have two accounts and 4 alts two of which get passive gain. two dont. Almost everyone has a second account or more with that active passive sp gain. So. why pay for something thats free?
All I am asking CCP to do is give players what they already have but on one account so I dont have to go and log out and in every time I want to get on a new account. Or that I want my friends to be able to still snd msgs to me on PSN. I dont like logging off of My PSN account just to play my tanker. Or to get back on my main and feel like my other alt is lacking in the sp. I dont want that inconvenience when its not hurting anyone to just give us passive sp gain on all our alts on the same account. I also ask to increase the maximum number of alts on one account to 4. |
Draco Cerberus
Hellstorm Inc
League of Infamy
327
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Posted - 2013.09.23 21:31:00 -
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Bendtner92 wrote:CCP isn't going to change this. We brought it up when they removed it around a year ago (yes, all three characters got passive SP before that) and they gave their answer on this by not commenting on the issue at all, just like they do with all the other issues they don't want us talking about.
So no matter what you say they're not going to give all three characters passive SP again.
I believe that they did comment on it but it was much longer than a year ago. They said blah blah blah we don't like it the end, which is fine and still doesn't change my opinion on the matter. As for other issues they don't want us talking about they do things like NDAs or tell us don't talk about it. The idea is that feedback is meant to show the devs what we want or don't like or do like not require comments, although dev responses are always appreciated. They are doing a great job. |
Vesago Ghostcore
Rejected Clones
19
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Posted - 2013.09.23 21:34:00 -
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someone said you can use passive boosters on alts to get passive exp, is that at 1.5x or at 1x? just curious. |
Draco Cerberus
Hellstorm Inc
League of Infamy
327
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Posted - 2013.09.23 21:37:00 -
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Cross Atu wrote:They just added the ability to train sub-toons on EVE (for PLEX) so it seems reasonable that the could add at least a 50% passive SP gain to alts on an account. At that level you'd still be getting enough SP to try new things out but it certainly wouldn't diminish game longevity etc. it honestly might even help because fewer people would bother to create alts on new PSNIDs if they were at least getting something from passive SP on all their characters within an account.
0.02 ISK
Cross
Cross, if you are an Eve player (you sound like you might be) then you would know that CCP loves multiple accounts for one person, they have all along. With more than one account a person who wants BPOs need to spend money to buy them so in the end it is all about the bottom dollar. As AUR is shared for all characters on an account, a person with more than one character on different PSN IDs wanting some items for each character would need to spend more money to pay for the BPOs and so, having multiple PSN IDs actually helps CCP out more by financing the production of Dust.
Cheers, they want you to spend more than 0.02 ISK  |
Spirit Charm
Bhaalgorn Industries
67
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Posted - 2013.09.26 01:24:00 -
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Thats stupid to assume that all there decisions are based on making money. No good business would throw away customer satisfaction for a quick buck. And in the long term this will make them more money cause it promotes long term playing. More ppl playing means more ppl buying aur and other sht from them.
Making money for them and making things convenient and fun goes toe to toe. If all they cared about is money then this makes them more money. |
RedZer0 MK1
Opus Arcana
53
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Posted - 2013.09.27 13:13:00 -
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So, even if they do RE-instate passive sp for alts, we are already screwed. Those that have alts on different psn accounts will have them stuck there. Also, for those of us who had alts on the same account from the era of when they all got passive sp, we are at a loss also. Close to a year of lost passive sp has been lost already. I highly doubt CCP will make it up to the players in any relevant way. |
Spirit Charm
Bhaalgorn Industries
69
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Posted - 2013.09.27 19:33:00 -
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RedZer0 MK1 wrote:So, even if they do RE-instate passive sp for alts, we are already screwed. Those that have alts on different psn accounts will have them stuck there. Also, for those of us who had alts on the same account from the era of when they all got passive sp, we are at a loss also. Close to a year of lost passive sp has been lost already. I highly doubt CCP will make it up to the players in any relevant way.
New players would rather enjoy not having to make more then one PSN account to gain alts. |
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