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shaman oga
Nexus Balusa Horizon
DARKSTAR ARMY
638
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Posted - 2013.09.15 09:56:00 -
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This is a bit advanced, but when we will have weapon costumization, can we also have a wheel with modules for the gunner seat?
Right now the gunner is a role without any attention, you just stay there and shoot (9/10 to nothing or both the MCC)
Gunners should have their own modules wheel, obviously with modules related to their own role (no hardeners, reppers), some modules can be:
heat sink
tracking enhacers/computer
damage mods
laser pointer (basically a scanner with insane long range and very little angle, to allow the tanker to see distant things, rendering countermisure)
more or less what we have now, but tankers will have their normal wheel for the hull and big turret.
The gunners will have their own modules wheel for their little turrets.
Feel free to comment and add modules to my list  |
shaman oga
Nexus Balusa Horizon
DARKSTAR ARMY
661
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Posted - 2013.09.21 11:36:00 -
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BUmp, are we in time for 1.6? |
ladwar
Dead Six Initiative
Lokun Listamenn
1660
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Posted - 2013.09.21 11:43:00 -
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no gunner is ever going to touch my module wheel. |
shaman oga
Nexus Balusa Horizon
DARKSTAR ARMY
661
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Posted - 2013.09.21 11:46:00 -
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Not yours, a wheel apart, dedicated to the little turrets. |
ladwar
Dead Six Initiative
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Posted - 2013.09.21 11:54:00 -
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no. i don't want some dumb blue draining my heat sink or any other future modules they put on. i might think about it if and only if vehicle locks are in the game and work 100% of the time with forced ejection from the owner/driver. till then i want no gunner to have any control over any module what so ever. |
shaman oga
Nexus Balusa Horizon
DARKSTAR ARMY
661
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Posted - 2013.09.21 13:09:00 -
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You don't understand:
you will have the module wheel as it's now, all the modules will affect the hull and your main turret.
gunners will have their module wheel separated from yours, you will fit your little turret seats in the way that you prefer.
Basically a tank will have 3 fit, 1 for the hull and main turret and 2 for the gunner seats, of course a gunner seat will have his own pg/cpu. |
ladwar
Dead Six Initiative
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Posted - 2013.09.21 13:28:00 -
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shaman oga wrote:You don't understand:
you will have the module wheel as it's now, all the modules will affect the hull and your main turret.
gunners will have their module wheel separated from yours, you will fit your little turret seats in the way that you prefer.
Basically a tank will have 3 fit, 1 for the hull and main turret and 2 for the gunner seats, of course a gunner seat will have his own pg/cpu.
that just going to lead to more trolling blue dots, no thanks its bad enough as it. i hate trolling blue dots in my vehicles as it is already, no reason to give more reason to troll vehicle users any more. |
Harpyja
DUST University
Ivy League
578
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Posted - 2013.09.21 13:29:00 -
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I don't see what there is you don't understand ladwar. Makes perfect sense to me and I like it.
ladwar wrote:shaman oga wrote:You don't understand:
you will have the module wheel as it's now, all the modules will affect the hull and your main turret.
gunners will have their module wheel separated from yours, you will fit your little turret seats in the way that you prefer.
Basically a tank will have 3 fit, 1 for the hull and main turret and 2 for the gunner seats, of course a gunner seat will have his own pg/cpu. that just going to lead to more trolling blue dots, no thanks its bad enough as it. i hate trolling blue dots in my vehicles as it is already, no reason to give more reason to troll vehicle users any more.
They can't troll you. They don't have access to your modules. Their module wheel is entirey their own along with the modules you fit to customize that turret. Whatever they do with their module wheel affects them only. |
shaman oga
Nexus Balusa Horizon
DARKSTAR ARMY
662
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Posted - 2013.09.21 13:39:00 -
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ladwar wrote:
that just going to lead to more trolling blue dots, no thanks its bad enough as it. i hate trolling blue dots in my vehicles as it is already, no reason to give more reason to troll vehicle users any more.
The problem is that it will change nothing for the driver (it can only be an advantage), you will worry of your modules and gunner modules will not be your problem.
BTW, if a blue dot jump in your gunner seat, he will probabily not know that he has a module wheel, but if a good player jump in you will have a great help. |
Tebu Gan
CrimeWave Syndicate
96
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Posted - 2013.09.21 13:39:00 -
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Because, Blue dots are douche bags that steal my tank because of a bug that forces me to switch turrets.
But I'm with harpy, the idea is cool, though I think the infantryman himself should carry the mods that affect turrets ability. Specialized, dedicated gunners. I get some blue dots in my tank that shred as hard as myself.
Of course, ideas like this are a ways down the road. |
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ladwar
Dead Six Initiative
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Posted - 2013.09.21 13:51:00 -
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shaman oga wrote:ladwar wrote:
that just going to lead to more trolling blue dots, no thanks its bad enough as it. i hate trolling blue dots in my vehicles as it is already, no reason to give more reason to troll vehicle users any more.
The problem is that it will change nothing for the driver (it can only be an advantage), you will worry of your modules and gunner modules will not be your problem. BTW, if a blue dot jump in your gunner seat, he will probabily not know that he has a module wheel, but if a good player jump in you will have a great help.
you clearly never had a blue dot spam rounds into your tank from the gunners spot for the whole round, there is a clear reason i avoid my own infantry. so they don't get in to try to annoy and blind me for rest of the match. your asking for more fuel for them to do just that and that laser is just another way for them to mess with driver and blind or annoy them.
NO WAY. IT IS A HORRIBLE IDEA IN THE CURRENT STATE OF THE GAME AND SHOULD NOT BE APPLIED
i do not need more reasons for gunners to think they actually have a reason to be in my gunner spot when they had no reason ever to be a gunner. blue dots are there to **** of vehicle drivers. for every 25 gunners i had jump in 1 was actually slightly usefully and rest where just there to annoy and blind me with my own small turrets. no reason to make it 25/25 troll dots.
go away with this idea. it is massive disadvantage to all pilots by adding this. |
shaman oga
Nexus Balusa Horizon
DARKSTAR ARMY
662
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Posted - 2013.09.21 14:05:00 -
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They should have hurt you so much 
I will not try again to make you understand that it will change nothing for you and if a blue dot want to sit all the time in your gunner seat, he will be able to do that even when you will not mount small turrets in your HAV.
Try to assume that you always play with your squadmates or good playes and then tell why is a bad idea or leave the post. |
ladwar
Dead Six Initiative
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Posted - 2013.09.21 14:11:00 -
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shaman oga wrote:They should have hurt you so much I will not try again to make you understand that it will change nothing for you and if a blue dot want to sit all the time in your gunner seat, he will be able to do that even when you will not mount small turrets in your HAV. Try to assume that you always play with your squadmates or good playes and then tell why is a bad idea or leave the post.
blue dots try and steal spots from squad& corp mates so that doesn't matter....
have a blue follow me and my 2 gunners for 300m then he stole a gunner spot and spent the whole time spamming rounds into my tank till the very end of the match. blue dots are the worse enemy on the field. no fuel for blue dot trolls.
if he doesn't have a turret its less annoying and doesn't blind me with its fire& hit markers |
shaman oga
Nexus Balusa Horizon
DARKSTAR ARMY
664
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Posted - 2013.09.21 14:16:00 -
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ladwar wrote:
have a blue follow me and my 2 gunners for 300m then he stole a gunner spot and spent the whole time spamming rounds into my tank till the very end of the match. blue dots are the worse enemy on the field. no fuel for blue dot trolls.
I know, but that is another problem, the problem are blue dots and not gunner seats, do you understand this?
BTW if i manage to know their names, i message them asking if they are having fun in shoot at nothing, it's not offensive and it usually works  |
ladwar
Dead Six Initiative
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Posted - 2013.09.21 14:23:00 -
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shaman oga wrote:ladwar wrote:
have a blue follow me and my 2 gunners for 300m then he stole a gunner spot and spent the whole time spamming rounds into my tank till the very end of the match. blue dots are the worse enemy on the field. no fuel for blue dot trolls.
I know, but that is another problem, the problem are blue dots and not gunner seats, do you understand this? Gunners are extremely useful if they know how to do their job, with this change they will be even more useful. BTW if i manage to know their names, i message them asking if they are having fun in shoot at nothing, it's not offensive and it usually works
but if they just want to troll you its just that much more effective to mess with the pilot. and very rarely does a random ever try and be a good gunner. they try and annoy the pilot because they can and be a waste of space. |
shaman oga
Nexus Balusa Horizon
DARKSTAR ARMY
665
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Posted - 2013.09.21 14:31:00 -
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Ok, seems like talking with a wall, i give up, my idea is good, you just don't understand. |
ladwar
Dead Six Initiative
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1663
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Posted - 2013.09.21 14:36:00 -
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shaman oga wrote:Ok, seems like talking with a wall, i give up, my idea is good, you just don't understand.
you can't see how a random on your team will use that against you, that's fine. dust has the biggest scrub base that doesn't care for wins. i don't want to see randoms use my turrets more effectively against me but if you do thats fine. |
shaman oga
Nexus Balusa Horizon
DARKSTAR ARMY
665
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Posted - 2013.09.21 14:41:00 -
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Quit with dust if that is your problem, play single player games.
I don't like the blue dots too, but the pro of these changes will outnumber the cons and most of all when they will change the hav little turrets will not be mandatory, so what's your problem?
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ladwar
Dead Six Initiative
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Posted - 2013.09.21 14:59:00 -
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that was pushed back and might not even happen |
The-Errorist
Mannar Focused Warfare
Gallente Federation
217
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Posted - 2013.09.21 16:03:00 -
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I think infantry modules that affect small turrets are needed first. |
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