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Shruikan Iceeye
Brotherhood of Seals
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Posted - 2013.09.14 10:00:00 -
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Devs? |
medomai grey
WarRavens League of Infamy
152
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Posted - 2013.09.14 10:06:00 -
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You noticed it to eh? Well I like that they toned it down to where I do majority of the aiming but it helps me with the finer adjustments in my aim.
It can however be rather annoying when it tugs your cursor off target because some random enemy ran by. |
Cosgar
ParagonX
5235
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Posted - 2013.09.14 10:08:00 -
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Yes they toned it down. Now it's actually aim-assist instead of doing the work for you. Also, they might have tweaked hit boxes and AR kick/dispersion for balancing purposes. |
ladwar
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
1590
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Posted - 2013.09.14 10:11:00 -
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hm... haven't been on to test this, been taking a break for saints row 4 and some on online fillers.
is this what the aim botters talking about?
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=110054&find=unread |
Monkey MAC
killer taxi company General Tso's Alliance
455
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Posted - 2013.09.14 10:11:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:Yes they toned it down. Now it's actually aim-assist instead of doing the work for you. Also, they might have tweaked hit boxes and AR kick/dispersion for balancing purposes.
I was about to ask if anyone else had noticed, it stars kicking after about 1/2 a dozen shots, CCP are obviously trying to see if they can make minor adjustments to make TTK a little bit longer! |
Banning Hammer
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
1408
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Posted - 2013.09.14 10:15:00 -
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Monkey MAC wrote:Cosgar wrote:Yes they toned it down. Now it's actually aim-assist instead of doing the work for you. Also, they might have tweaked hit boxes and AR kick/dispersion for balancing purposes. I was about to ask if anyone else had noticed, it stars kicking after about 1/2 a dozen shots, CCP are obviously trying to see if they can make minor adjustments to make TTK a little bit longer!
It should be kicking anyway. I think that was a mistake. If you use the AR with the mouse the kick is very noticeable, the crosshair goes up and down every dozen shots or so. |
Monkey MAC
killer taxi company General Tso's Alliance
455
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Posted - 2013.09.14 10:23:00 -
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Banning Hammer wrote:Monkey MAC wrote:Cosgar wrote:Yes they toned it down. Now it's actually aim-assist instead of doing the work for you. Also, they might have tweaked hit boxes and AR kick/dispersion for balancing purposes. I was about to ask if anyone else had noticed, it stars kicking after about 1/2 a dozen shots, CCP are obviously trying to see if they can make minor adjustments to make TTK a little bit longer! It should be kicking anyway. I think that was a mistake. If you use the AR with the mouse the kick is very noticeable, the crosshair goes up and down every dozen shots or so.
Ooh? So it was a glitch? Interesting . . . . |
Banning Hammer
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
1410
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Posted - 2013.09.14 10:23:00 -
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Banning Hammer wrote:Monkey MAC wrote:Cosgar wrote:Yes they toned it down. Now it's actually aim-assist instead of doing the work for you. Also, they might have tweaked hit boxes and AR kick/dispersion for balancing purposes. I was about to ask if anyone else had noticed, it stars kicking after about 1/2 a dozen shots, CCP are obviously trying to see if they can make minor adjustments to make TTK a little bit longer! It should be kicking anyway. I think that was a mistake. If you use the AR with the mouse the kick is very noticeable, the crosshair goes up and down every dozen shots or so.
This video is a good example ;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GjZ1E5oV9yQ
Notice how the crosshair doesn't move up every time he shoots ? The aim-assist was negating the "kick" of the weapons, which is one of the main reason why mouse user have been in a disadvantage .... again... |
Cosgar
ParagonX
5236
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Posted - 2013.09.14 10:27:00 -
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Banning Hammer wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:Monkey MAC wrote:Cosgar wrote:Yes they toned it down. Now it's actually aim-assist instead of doing the work for you. Also, they might have tweaked hit boxes and AR kick/dispersion for balancing purposes. I was about to ask if anyone else had noticed, it stars kicking after about 1/2 a dozen shots, CCP are obviously trying to see if they can make minor adjustments to make TTK a little bit longer! It should be kicking anyway. I think that was a mistake. If you use the AR with the mouse the kick is very noticeable, the crosshair goes up and down every dozen shots or so. This video is a good example ; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GjZ1E5oV9yQNotice how the crosshair doesn't move up every time he shoots ? The aim-assist was negating the "kick" of the weapons, which is one of the main reason why mouse user have been in a disadvantage .... again... Good find, I think you figured out the issue. In B4 AR QQ... |
Marc Rime
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
181
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Posted - 2013.09.14 10:36:00 -
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Only thing it seems to do now is yank my aim away from the target I'm trying to hit now and then. Other than that I can hardly tell if it's on or not (even in the cases where it was obvious a few days ago).
Wish we could just get better precision for small adjustments while maintaining high turn speed at full tilt... without having to *wait* for acceleration to kick in. |
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straya fox
CybinSect
8
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Posted - 2013.09.14 10:41:00 -
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Banning Hammer wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:Monkey MAC wrote:Cosgar wrote:Yes they toned it down. Now it's actually aim-assist instead of doing the work for you. Also, they might have tweaked hit boxes and AR kick/dispersion for balancing purposes. I was about to ask if anyone else had noticed, it stars kicking after about 1/2 a dozen shots, CCP are obviously trying to see if they can make minor adjustments to make TTK a little bit longer! It should be kicking anyway. I think that was a mistake. If you use the AR with the mouse the kick is very noticeable, the crosshair goes up and down every dozen shots or so. This video is a good example ; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GjZ1E5oV9yQNotice how the crosshair doesn't move up every time he shoots ? The aim-assist was negating the "kick" of the weapons, which is one of the main reason why mouse user have been in a disadvantage .... again...
Banning Hammer are u ********? this video was posted a couple of days ago by Mihayli, he stated very clearly he was using a mouse and keyboard which u argued with, now u repost it claiming its DS3, I know its the internet bro but u can't blatantly lie like that.
edit blanked out word was ret.ard.ed |
ladwar
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
1591
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Posted - 2013.09.14 10:43:00 -
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they should just remove it completely. |
Banning Hammer
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
1410
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Posted - 2013.09.14 10:45:00 -
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straya fox wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:Monkey MAC wrote:Cosgar wrote:Yes they toned it down. Now it's actually aim-assist instead of doing the work for you. Also, they might have tweaked hit boxes and AR kick/dispersion for balancing purposes. I was about to ask if anyone else had noticed, it stars kicking after about 1/2 a dozen shots, CCP are obviously trying to see if they can make minor adjustments to make TTK a little bit longer! It should be kicking anyway. I think that was a mistake. If you use the AR with the mouse the kick is very noticeable, the crosshair goes up and down every dozen shots or so. This video is a good example ; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GjZ1E5oV9yQNotice how the crosshair doesn't move up every time he shoots ? The aim-assist was negating the "kick" of the weapons, which is one of the main reason why mouse user have been in a disadvantage .... again... Banning Hammer are u ********? this video was posted a couple of days ago by Mihayli, he stated very clearly he was using a mouse and keyboard which u argued with, now u repost it claiming its DS3, I know its the internet bro but u can't blatantly lie like that. edit blanked out word was ret.ard.ed
As i just talk you.. the kick with the mouse is VERY noticeable. That is not, and have never been a mouse game-play video. |
straya fox
CybinSect
8
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Posted - 2013.09.14 10:49:00 -
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In your opinion Banning. i read mihayli's whole thread. The fact that you reposted his video and made up a pack of lies to support your opinion is bizarre. |
Banning Hammer
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
1410
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Posted - 2013.09.14 10:51:00 -
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straya fox wrote:In your opinion Banning. i read mihayli's whole thread. The fact that you reposted his video and made up a pack of lies to support your opinion is bizarre.
Try the mouse yourself if you don't believe me.. the evidence are right there, starring you at the face. |
straya fox
CybinSect
8
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Posted - 2013.09.14 10:56:00 -
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Mihalyi's whole thread was about how he thought the mouse and keyboard were working ok for him, he posted that video of himself going 24kills and 5 deaths, with a MOUSE & KEYBOARD! he stated it very clearly.
Now u repost it as "evidence" of aim assist on DS3, thats just not cool man. |
Monkey MAC
killer taxi company General Tso's Alliance
455
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Posted - 2013.09.14 10:58:00 -
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straya fox wrote:Mihalyi's whole thread was about how he thought the mouse and keyboard were working ok for him, he posted that video of himself going 24kills and 5 deaths, with a MOUSE & KEYBOARD! he stated it very clearly.
Now u repost it as "evidence" of aim assist on DS3, thats just not cool man.
Well then kick needs to be added to ar, period!! |
Banning Hammer
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
1410
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Posted - 2013.09.14 11:00:00 -
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straya fox wrote:Mihalyi's whole thread was about how he thought the mouse and keyboard were working ok for him, he posted that video of himself going 24kills and 5 deaths, with a MOUSE & KEYBOARD! he stated it very clearly.
Now u repost it as "evidence" of aim assist on DS3, thats just not cool man.
He tried to fool people with an obvious DS3 aim-assist video, and backfired ? To bad.. i guess that will teach him to don't underestimate people knowledge of the game that they play EVERYDAY. |
621311251521 3316
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.09.14 11:01:00 -
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ladwar wrote:they should just remove it completely. lol ur very funny without AA i cannot play 100/100 with ds3 a must reduced 80 /100 which is ******* slow |
621311251521 3316
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.09.14 11:06:00 -
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Monkey MAC wrote:straya fox wrote:Mihalyi's whole thread was about how he thought the mouse and keyboard were working ok for him, he posted that video of himself going 24kills and 5 deaths, with a MOUSE & KEYBOARD! he stated it very clearly.
Now u repost it as "evidence" of aim assist on DS3, thats just not cool man. Well then kick needs to be added to ar, period!!
plasma is energy weapon hence low kick |
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KGB Sleep
Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State
229
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Posted - 2013.09.14 11:08:00 -
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The fact that people have to ask proves it wasn't a big deal in the first place. |
straya fox
CybinSect
10
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Posted - 2013.09.14 11:08:00 -
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Banning Hammer wrote:straya fox wrote:Mihalyi's whole thread was about how he thought the mouse and keyboard were working ok for him, he posted that video of himself going 24kills and 5 deaths, with a MOUSE & KEYBOARD! he stated it very clearly.
Now u repost it as "evidence" of aim assist on DS3, thats just not cool man. He tried to fool people with an obvious DS3 aim-assist video, and backfired ? To bad.. i guess that will teach him to don't underestimate people knowledge of the game that they play EVERYDAY.
His thread had nothing to do with aim assist. You are the only person who argued that he was not using M/KB, he addressed your issues and provided evidence, and u still hijack his vid and post it without a shred of evidence. |
Banning Hammer
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
1410
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Posted - 2013.09.14 11:11:00 -
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straya fox wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:straya fox wrote:Mihalyi's whole thread was about how he thought the mouse and keyboard were working ok for him, he posted that video of himself going 24kills and 5 deaths, with a MOUSE & KEYBOARD! he stated it very clearly.
Now u repost it as "evidence" of aim assist on DS3, thats just not cool man. He tried to fool people with an obvious DS3 aim-assist video, and backfired ? To bad.. i guess that will teach him to don't underestimate people knowledge of the game that they play EVERYDAY. His thread had nothing to do with aim assist. You are the only person who argued that he was not using M/KB, he addressed your issues and provided evidence, and u still hijack his vid and post it without a shred of evidence.
Anyone that have done a direct comparison between the aim-assist and the mouse, will notice the difference very clearly. Have you even tried to do that yourself yet ? |
Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
4002
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Posted - 2013.09.14 11:16:00 -
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straya fox wrote:You are the only person who argued that he was not using M/KB, Not true. There were several people posting doubts about it being KB/M footage.
Quote:he addressed your issues and provided evidence, And his "addressing" of the issue and "evidence" were refuted solidly even by most of the people saying it seemed like a legit KB/M video, because he claimed to be turning faster than is possible with sixaxis controls at several points where he most definitely WASN'T turning faster than max-sensitivity sixaxis controls allow.
Quote:and u still hijack his vid and post it without a shred of evidence. ...except the fact that he's using the video as evidence of how aim assist works, and it's entirely possible that given CCP's usual level of skill at making things work as intended, this was actually recorded with KB/M but aim assist glitched its way into effect while the KB/M controls were used. |
straya fox
CybinSect
10
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Posted - 2013.09.14 11:17:00 -
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Banning Hammer wrote:straya fox wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:straya fox wrote:Mihalyi's whole thread was about how he thought the mouse and keyboard were working ok for him, he posted that video of himself going 24kills and 5 deaths, with a MOUSE & KEYBOARD! he stated it very clearly.
Now u repost it as "evidence" of aim assist on DS3, thats just not cool man. He tried to fool people with an obvious DS3 aim-assist video, and backfired ? To bad.. i guess that will teach him to don't underestimate people knowledge of the game that they play EVERYDAY. His thread had nothing to do with aim assist. You are the only person who argued that he was not using M/KB, he addressed your issues and provided evidence, and u still hijack his vid and post it without a shred of evidence. Anyone that have done a direct comparison between the aim-assist and the mouse, will notice the difference very clearly. Have you even tried to do that yourself yet ?
What i have not done is repost a persons vid and make my own assumptions about it in complete contrast to what the owner stated without a shred of evidence, I wish i could find the original thread. Mihalyi addressed all your issues regarding that video in the original thread. |
Banning Hammer
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
1410
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Posted - 2013.09.14 11:19:00 -
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straya fox wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:straya fox wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:straya fox wrote:Mihalyi's whole thread was about how he thought the mouse and keyboard were working ok for him, he posted that video of himself going 24kills and 5 deaths, with a MOUSE & KEYBOARD! he stated it very clearly.
Now u repost it as "evidence" of aim assist on DS3, thats just not cool man. He tried to fool people with an obvious DS3 aim-assist video, and backfired ? To bad.. i guess that will teach him to don't underestimate people knowledge of the game that they play EVERYDAY. His thread had nothing to do with aim assist. You are the only person who argued that he was not using M/KB, he addressed your issues and provided evidence, and u still hijack his vid and post it without a shred of evidence. Anyone that have done a direct comparison between the aim-assist and the mouse, will notice the difference very clearly. Have you even tried to do that yourself yet ? What i have not done is repost a persons vid and make my own assumptions about it in complete contrast to what the owner stated without a shred of evidence, I wish i could find the original thread. Mihalyi addressed all your issues regarding that video in the original thread.
He didn't explain why is not vertical movement is hes crosshair ( Kick ) I will love to hear the explanation for that one. |
straya fox
CybinSect
10
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Posted - 2013.09.14 11:22:00 -
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Garrett Blacknova wrote:straya fox wrote:You are the only person who argued that he was not using M/KB, Not true. There were several people posting doubts about it being KB/M footage. Quote:he addressed your issues and provided evidence, And his "addressing" of the issue and "evidence" were refuted solidly even by most of the people saying it seemed like a legit KB/M video, because he claimed to be turning faster than is possible with sixaxis controls at several points where he most definitely WASN'T turning faster than max-sensitivity sixaxis controls allow. Quote:and u still hijack his vid and post it without a shred of evidence. ...except the fact that he's using the video as evidence of how aim assist works, and it's entirely possible that given CCP's usual level of skill at making things work as intended, this was actually recorded with KB/M but aim assist glitched its way into effect while the KB/M controls were used.
... ok i was under the impression that aim assist was not available for KB/M but i guess glitches happen. I mabe left the thread early but i did not see much evidence against the validity of Mihalyi's statement.
edit- sorry to go on a tangent OP, wont happen any more. |
Banning Hammer
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
1411
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Posted - 2013.09.14 11:29:00 -
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straya fox wrote:Garrett Blacknova wrote:straya fox wrote:You are the only person who argued that he was not using M/KB, Not true. There were several people posting doubts about it being KB/M footage. Quote:he addressed your issues and provided evidence, And his "addressing" of the issue and "evidence" were refuted solidly even by most of the people saying it seemed like a legit KB/M video, because he claimed to be turning faster than is possible with sixaxis controls at several points where he most definitely WASN'T turning faster than max-sensitivity sixaxis controls allow. Quote:and u still hijack his vid and post it without a shred of evidence. ...except the fact that he's using the video as evidence of how aim assist works, and it's entirely possible that given CCP's usual level of skill at making things work as intended, this was actually recorded with KB/M but aim assist glitched its way into effect while the KB/M controls were used. ... ok i was under the impression that aim assist was not available for KB/M but i guess glitches happen. I mabe left the thread early but i did not see much evidence against the validity of Mihalyi's statement. edit- sorry to go on a tangent OP, wont happen any more.
No glitches, is no way to have aim-assist in the mouse. The right axis and the mouse have to completely different ports. in other words... it doesn't matter how hard you try, is impossible to use the right axis and the mouse at the same time. |
Jade Hasegawa
Intrepidus XI EoN.
111
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Posted - 2013.09.14 11:30:00 -
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Couldnt say if they have or not, I don't like a game aiming for me so turned it off |
straya fox
CybinSect
11
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Posted - 2013.09.14 11:33:00 -
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Basically all i'm getting at Banning is post your own vid's to support your own argument. Don't steal one that you have no knowledge about and use it as evidence. Damm sorry OP i said i wouldn't do this again. |
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Banning Hammer
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
1411
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Posted - 2013.09.14 11:36:00 -
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straya fox wrote:Basically all i'm getting at Banning is post your own vid's to support your own argument. Don't steal one that you have no knowledge about and use it as evidence. Damm sorry OP i said i wouldn't do this again.
Why you saying sorry ? this is very much part of this topic. It explains why CCP have added kick to the aim-assist, because it was a mistake to start with. I won't be surprise if it was that video that make CCP realize what the problem was. |
Csikszent Mihalyi
DUST University Ivy League
181
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Posted - 2013.09.14 11:41:00 -
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Banning Hammer wrote:straya fox wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:straya fox wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:
He tried to fool people with an obvious DS3 aim-assist video, and backfired ? To bad.. i guess that will teach him to don't underestimate people knowledge of the game that they play EVERYDAY.
His thread had nothing to do with aim assist. You are the only person who argued that he was not using M/KB, he addressed your issues and provided evidence, and u still hijack his vid and post it without a shred of evidence. Anyone that have done a direct comparison between the aim-assist and the mouse, will notice the difference very clearly. Have you even tried to do that yourself yet ? What i have not done is repost a persons vid and make my own assumptions about it in complete contrast to what the owner stated without a shred of evidence, I wish i could find the original thread. Mihalyi addressed all your issues regarding that video in the original thread. He didn't explain why is not vertical movement is hes crosshair ( Kick ) I will love to hear the explanation for that one.
Because I use burst fire and compensate, duh. I've been playing shooters with realistic weapons literally for decades, so compensating for kickback is something I don't even think about anymore.
This is the thread and I don't care one bit what you think to be honest, I posted this so smart people can draw their own conclusions. I don't need any spin doctors interpreting it, thank you very much. :)
I just recorded some comparisons of DS3 and mouse turning speeds and will post it in a bit. I'm sure you will also excuse me of faking those, but whatever dude. Anybody with a shred of intelligence can just test it for themselves to see that it's not made up.
However, you reposting this and blankly stating that it's an example of DS3 aim assist without even giving people any context, is absolutely not cool. |
straya fox
CybinSect
11
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Posted - 2013.09.14 11:44:00 -
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Banning Hammer wrote:straya fox wrote:Basically all i'm getting at Banning is post your own vid's to support your own argument. Don't steal one that you have no knowledge about and use it as evidence. Damm sorry OP i said i wouldn't do this again. Why you saying sorry ? this is very much part of this topic. It explains why CCP have added kick to the aim-assist, because it was a mistake to start with. I won't be surprise if it was that video that make CCP realize what the problem was.
I am apologising because my posts were related to the fact that you posted Mihalyi's vid as evidence and not related to aim assist. I was not apologising to you Banning but to the OP. |
Cosgar
ParagonX
5241
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Posted - 2013.09.14 11:45:00 -
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621311251521 3316 wrote:Monkey MAC wrote:straya fox wrote:Mihalyi's whole thread was about how he thought the mouse and keyboard were working ok for him, he posted that video of himself going 24kills and 5 deaths, with a MOUSE & KEYBOARD! he stated it very clearly.
Now u repost it as "evidence" of aim assist on DS3, thats just not cool man. Well then kick needs to be added to ar, period!! plasma is energy weapon hence low kick Plasma is superheated gas capable of immensely destructive power at short range. Also in the game's context, it's a Gallente hybrid weapon, based on their battle philosophy of fast, in your face high DPS combat. The AR is still in placeholder mode until 1.5, so expect a range cut when the Combat and Rail rifles come out. |
M McManus
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
50
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Posted - 2013.09.14 12:42:00 -
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Aim assist is still there if you can't notice the system making those crucial fine adjustments for you you're that much more of a scrub... Just hold your cursor on a red and watch it move or ads and watch it track and adjust for you..
All these threads saying it's gone are just trying to get the attention away from how op it is...
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621311251521 3316
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2013.09.14 12:58:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:621311251521 3316 wrote:Monkey MAC wrote:straya fox wrote:Mihalyi's whole thread was about how he thought the mouse and keyboard were working ok for him, he posted that video of himself going 24kills and 5 deaths, with a MOUSE & KEYBOARD! he stated it very clearly.
Now u repost it as "evidence" of aim assist on DS3, thats just not cool man. Well then kick needs to be added to ar, period!! plasma is energy weapon hence low kick Plasma is superheated gas capable of immensely destructive power at short range. Also in the game's context, it's a Gallente hybrid weapon, based on their battle philosophy of fast, in your face high DPS combat. The AR is still in placeholder mode until 1.5, so expect a range cut when the Combat and Rail rifles come out.
lol bcuz 50 meter is not short ennuf too u lol ur freaking stupid , look ccp im genius (gallent ar 50 m . combat rilfe 75 m, pulse laser scrambler rifle 100m, laser rifle 125 m ,rail rifle 150 m ) |
Shruikan Iceeye
Brotherhood of Seals
30
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Posted - 2013.09.14 14:12:00 -
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M McManus wrote:Aim assist is still there if you can't notice the system making those crucial fine adjustments for you you're that much more of a scrub... Just hold your cursor on a red and watch it move or ads and watch it track and adjust for you..
All these threads saying it's gone are just trying to get the attention away from how op it is...
Somebody sounds a little butthurt |
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