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Mavado V Noriega wrote:

Leither Yiltron wrote:

On top of that, your best words on the subject of Dust as a game are frequently none at all. You constantly talk about moving on to the PS4 and an utter conviction that Dust is doomed to failure. Instead of EoN. being one of the strongest advocates for repairing and iterating on PC and Dust, you're more likely to talk about GTA V.

News flash: Most of us are still playing this game with the hopes of improving it and getting it to realize its potential. Yeah, it's hugely flawed, and it's not getting any better moping about that.

The last thing is a personal note, Mav. Your continued implications that nobody in Dust puts in the same time and effort as you do and can't possibly understand the work you put in are nothing short of insulting to the hundreds of leaders without whom there wouldn't be a metagame for you to ***** at.

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TP controlled 50% of EoN districts u say right ok so why not attack the other 50% u do know just attackin 50% aka TP only leaves the other 50% to help defend TP land right? IKR SHOCKIN
for ur actual strat to work u would hav to attack near 100% not just the 50% and a few stragglers


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Leither Yiltron KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 709	Posted - 2013.09.15 05:44:00 - [1] - Quote Long Evity wrote: EoN Won the war by a margin. FEC has fallen a part - attacks have stopped due to multiple reasons. The war is at an end, as of last week. Nice try guys, and thanks for the ISK, I made hundreds of millions. Shame you guys got screwed by Sha and SI and didn't get paid to keep it up like promised. But thanks anyways. Yes, so successful in fact that you post on an alt? EoN. began locking their own districts because they couldn't take the heat. Not much to really comment on other than that.
Leither Yiltron KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 717	Posted - 2013.09.17 17:43:00 - [2] - Quote Mavado V Noriega wrote: ur a smart guy but this is a dumb post only TP locked their districts and for 3 days lol. everyone else was open to attack, u just didnt attack so dont say "EoN" was locking their districts get it right. TP needed a rest , they took 1 rest of EoN was waiting yall didnt step up to the plate anymore after a series of losses. TP =/= All of EoN so stop saying EoN did this and that. dont make excuses u lost. I was going to produce a lengthy response to this, but Baal actually did me one better and covered a lot of the strategic ground. The post is too big to quote gracefully, so here's a link instead in case you missed it. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1303413#post1303413 I'll make a small correction to his original post: According to the CREST API pull that I made about the time when EoN. started locking districts, TeamPlayers's holdings represented nearly 50% of EoN.'s total holdings. http://i.imgur.com/MPaskGy.png Your quoted post here is inane politicking at its finest taken in context. I didn't contribute to nor endorse the FEC's original strategy against EoN., frankly because I didn't feel it would be effective given a wealth of personal experience. At best my recommendation was to wait another few weeks to allow EoN.'s members to grow increasingly bored of Dust, as well as try to make the FEC maximally cohesive while training some of the various newer and older corporations. Additionally it made sense, given the absolutely horrendously low clone pack numbers which persist to this day, for smaller corporations to continue relying on EoN. "good will" to obtain districts. And the FEC? They proved me wrong. Your implication that attacking anyone other than TeamPlayers within EoN. represented accomplishing the same strategic objective as attacking TP is stupid, and you know it's stupid. The FEC's plan was not "win more than 50% of battles vs. TP", it was "strain EoN. logistically to the point of breaking by exploiting the fact that almost 50% of their district holdings were required to be administrated by approximately 30 active players". By your own admission as well as TP's, Mav, the FEC was succeeding in this objective. So much so that rather than man up and fight a real war (something that EoN. is apparently scared of doing), EoN. opted to exploit a mechanic that we will all openly admit is extremely broken and completely undermines the basis of Planetary Conquest. TP locked their districts. "But it was only for 3 days!" is your next argument. Again, this is utter rubbish to anyone with a sense of scope as to how wars currently execute in PC. How long did it take you to kill League of Infamy? 4 days? 3 days was more than enough time to let the players in TP recuperate mentally. Even 1 day is quite a respite given the situation. As Baal put so well in the linked post, those 3 days cut all the momentum that the FEC had built down to nil. They completely disrupted every iota of the strategic objective that was being accomplished. By all means in a gameplay sense, this was an excellent move on EoN.'s part for averting potential collapse of your strongest corporation. Shortly thereafter, EoN. moved to mitigate the potential success of such an action again by selling huge swathes of TP's holdings to Public Disorder., with the added bonus that Public Disorder. agreed to provide personnel to alleviate any remnants of logistical strain EoN. was still experiencing after locking. PD. continues to rent from EoN. in the form of "defense contracts" for what I've been told are substantial fees. Thus EoN. still realizes part of the profit on the districts TP traded away, including activity, and in return no longer faces the potential for administrative strain to be put on TP. Like I said before: well played. Why does the community continue to tear you a new ***** over your antics? Mostly because your rhetoric is spineless and completely unhelpful concerning the issue in some bizarre attempt to claim that EoN. still wanted "good fights" after having TP lock their districts. Not only that, but EoN. has also been and continues to be hugely unhelpful in trying to push CCP to resolve both the district locking exploit(s) and the generalized issues with PC as a whole. As the largest sov-holder in Molden Heath, locking your districts has proliferated the exploit to the point of making it completely not viable to ignore it on a strategic level. You have made PC even worse by your actions, and yet continue to attempt to justify them. On top of that, your best words on the subject of Dust as a game are frequently none at all. You constantly talk about moving on to the PS4 and an utter conviction that Dust is doomed to failure. Instead of EoN. being one of the strongest advocates for repairing and iterating on PC and Dust, you're more likely to talk about GTA V. News flash: Most of us are still playing this game with the hopes of improving it and getting it to realize its potential. Yeah, it's hugely flawed, and it's not getting any better moping about that. The last thing is a personal note, Mav. Your continued implications that nobody in Dust puts in the same time and effort as you do and can't possibly understand the work you put in are nothing short of insulting to the hundreds of leaders without whom there wouldn't be a metagame for you to *** at.
Leither Yiltron KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 730	Posted - 2013.09.17 23:39:00 - [3] - Quote Mavado V Noriega wrote: Leither Yiltron wrote: On top of that, your best words on the subject of Dust as a game are frequently none at all. You constantly talk about moving on to the PS4 and an utter conviction that Dust is doomed to failure. Instead of EoN. being one of the strongest advocates for repairing and iterating on PC and Dust, you're more likely to talk about GTA V. News flash: Most of us are still playing this game with the hopes of improving it and getting it to realize its potential. Yeah, it's hugely flawed, and it's not getting any better moping about that. The last thing is a personal note, Mav. Your continued implications that nobody in Dust puts in the same time and effort as you do and can't possibly understand the work you put in are nothing short of insulting to the hundreds of leaders without whom there wouldn't be a metagame for you to ***** at. now scrolling back up TP controlled 50% of EoN districts u say right ok so why not attack the other 50% u do know just attackin 50% aka TP only leaves the other 50% to help defend TP land right? IKR SHOCKIN for ur actual strat to work u would hav to attack near 100% not just the 50% and a few stragglers As your devoted student, I know that leadership is hard. Hard enough to justify the thought that you missed the difference between TP's districts having to be logistically managed by 30 guys, as opposed to the other 50% being managed by ten times as many.