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VikingCheech iBUN
Mcalpines Fusiliers
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Posted - 2013.09.10 17:15:00 -
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Mass driver is currently the most op wep. i thought weps were balanced? MD has long range, huge blast dmg, good dmg, decent clip size and you can fire them quickly. 2-3 people sitting by a supply depo with MD can wipe out a whole team in a short period of time.
Amar logi with a md + flaylock, flux grenades, scanner, nanohive + speed modules = explosive noobtuber FTW
all eq. adv some skills at 5, most 4 or less
No skilled gameing required just shoot near enemies feet!
I have seen it done countless times and done it myself. i didnt have to do anything but use the lvl1 scanner and sit beside them while they blew the same 6 people up over and over again. no worry about ammo we had a constant supply. WELL DONE CCP. we only did it to prove my friend that it worked and that it was the most noob, dishonourable way to win a game. look at any server they all use them most of the time. 27-0 with 2k+ wp was one of my squad members an i didnt even have a chance to get 10-1 on it, a amb oms. Too much laughing puts me off killing as u can see my kd was bad as i died once!
Its on all game modes even on pc they are used iv seen a enemy kill one of his team mates. we still lost but it was funny to watch.
Will anything get done about them or will they go on pubstomping? |
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Brutor Vanguard
Minmatar Republic
5865
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Posted - 2013.09.10 17:25:00 -
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The actual damage per second compared to that of the AR is significantly lower, even if you manage to land direct hits with the MD. Long travel time combined with steep gravitational drop makes it require skill, but also makes you need to shoot where your opponent will instead of where they currently are. Strafing against an MD user can make it impossible to hit you at the right ranges.
The fact that you can do great with a weapon in no way proves it is OP, there are people who can do better than you with an AR or some other weapon. |
VikingCheech iBUN
Mcalpines Fusiliers
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Posted - 2013.09.10 17:38:00 -
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ohh im getting shot by a AR! what shall i do? stand on a armour rep whilst someones healing me with tool and strafe with 2-3 of ur friends dodgeing around too. im a armour tanker on other char. u try dodgeing 2-3 md shots a second and shoot someone thats really fast and with a little bit of cover to stop u from even getting many of them petty ar bullets into me. lvl 5 biotics and 1 sprint speed mod in! |
CharCharOdell
Shining Flame
Amarr Empire
671
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Posted - 2013.09.10 22:43:00 -
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Nerf AR |
CLONE117
Planetary Response Organization
Test Friends Please Ignore
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Posted - 2013.09.10 22:46:00 -
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stupid idiots and the their beloved nerf ar threads... |
Skipper Jones
Militaires-Sans-Frontieres
718
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Posted - 2013.09.10 22:56:00 -
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CLONE117 wrote:stupid idiots and the their beloved nerf ar threads...
You know it's bad when someone calls you a 'stupid idiot' |
Skipper Jones
Militaires-Sans-Frontieres
718
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Posted - 2013.09.10 22:57:00 -
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VikingCheech iBUN wrote:
Amar logi with a md + flaylock, flux grenades, scanner, nanohive + speed modules = explosive noobtuber FTW
all eq. adv some skills at 5, most 4 or less
No skilled gameing required just shoot near enemies feet!
Do you realize how many skill points that is? |
Pseudonym2
The Pyramid Order
The Nova Foundry
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Posted - 2013.09.10 23:01:00 -
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If you killed the same 6 people over and over again I'd say that's more of a spawn mechanic issue than a OP weapon issue. I'm assuming you had high ground, cause MD just doesn't work that well from low. I'm fairly certain if you took a hitscan weapon onto the same high ground overlooking a spawn location bullet assist (and yes I do mean to use that term) would serve you quite well. The reason you're seeing the prevalence of MDs is because many of the other weapons have very little practical usefulness in most of the maps when faced with long-range, hitscan weapon users. |
Skipper Jones
Militaires-Sans-Frontieres
718
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Posted - 2013.09.10 23:25:00 -
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Pseudonym2 wrote:If you killed the same 6 people over and over again I'd say that's more of a spawn mechanic issue than a OP weapon issue. I'm assuming you had high ground, cause MD just doesn't work that well from low. I'm fairly certain if you took a hitscan weapon onto the same high ground overlooking a spawn location bullet assist (and yes I do mean to use that term) would serve you quite well. The reason you're seeing the prevalence of MDs is because many of the other weapons have very little practical usefulness in most of the maps when faced with long-range, hitscan weapon users.
shhhhh don't tell them.
They seem to think that If there is a Mass Driver user watching that hallway, that it would be a good idea to keep spawning there and walking into that hallway. They seem to think that if they sit there and rage about dying to a MD that they will be able to walk down that hallway.
THAT HALLWAY WILL BE USED DAMMIT!  |
Monkey MAC
killer taxi company
General Tso's Alliance
371
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Posted - 2013.09.10 23:39:00 -
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So he complains he manages to kill the same 6 people, with an MD, thats not op, thats a dum enemy!! Claims a "friend" got 27-0, friend is either imaginary, guarded to rig score, or made it up. Claims it does too well over range, description says its a long range area denial, and breaching tool.
Another poster complains its op against armour, thats its job working as intended, complains 3 guys sitting on a triage nanohive get wasted, they should have moved away from the blast instead of trying to tank through, thats not op, thats a dum enemy!! |
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Cosgar
ParagonX
5113
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Posted - 2013.09.11 00:01:00 -
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Hit detection works, and you have aim-assist. No excuses anymore. If you can't hip-fire from across the map at a grenade launcher shooting slow moving grenades, the problem is on your end. |
Pseudonym2
The Pyramid Order
The Nova Foundry
13
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Posted - 2013.09.11 00:14:00 -
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Lol ridiculous isn't it, stand there and complain that you can get kills by spawn camping, like that doesn't happen with every weapon in the game. You want us to not take advantage of splash damage, fine, you stop taking advantage of range. Pre-patch I was actually advocating a mild nerf to MD and stopped using it, because it was being abused, now I'm pretty much of the opinion that if you want to let the game aim for you, you can just shut up and take your medicine. If you can just spam an SMG, why shouldn't I be able to spam a grenade launcher? |
BIind Shot
Neanderthal Nation
Public Disorder.
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Posted - 2013.09.11 03:25:00 -
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I think they're almost perfect maybe10%-20% less damage to shields. I use an AR but if I get pushed by a MD user I break one out. |
low genius
The Sound Of Freedom
Renegade Alliance
414
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Posted - 2013.09.11 04:15:00 -
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BIind Shot wrote:I think they're almost perfect maybe10%-20% less damage to shields. I use an AR but if I get pushed by a MD user I break one out.
i too would like to see larger differences in the shield/armour effectiveness department. (hybrids aren't that great against shields, ccp. everybody knows it.) |
Cosgar
ParagonX
5130
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Posted - 2013.09.11 06:12:00 -
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low genius wrote:BIind Shot wrote:I think they're almost perfect maybe10%-20% less damage to shields. I use an AR but if I get pushed by a MD user I break one out. i too would like to see larger differences in the shield/armour effectiveness department. (hybrids aren't that great against shields, ccp. everybody knows it.)
Depends on the weapon. Rails are 90/110 |
Pseudonym2
The Pyramid Order
The Nova Foundry
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Posted - 2013.09.11 14:05:00 -
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BIind Shot wrote:I think they're almost perfect maybe10%-20% less damage to shields. I use an AR but if I get pushed by a MD user I break one out.
My original thought was simply to increase damage falloff over the blast radius, so that the weapon did less damage at the extreme extents of it's radius, bringing it back to the niche weapon it was that only people with the skill to use it could be effective. At this juncture that seems pointless though, since people can fire a hitscan weapon over the same radius and still do damage. |
Rush Inamras
PiZzA DuDeS
3
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Posted - 2013.09.24 07:59:00 -
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Though I do find them frustrating to strafe from and I do see them a lot, and holy hell they do kill...and the flaylock (a similar weapon) was brutally nerfed...It issss a grenade launcher and its kinda doing what its supposed to do, aside from its range, but there's a legit reason for the range, its for clearing out clusters of players that are trying to try the whole safety in numbers strategy. |
excillon
united we stand x
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Posted - 2013.09.24 08:23:00 -
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Rush Inamras wrote:Though I do find them frustrating to strafe from and I do see them a lot, and holy hell they do kill...and the flaylock (a similar weapon) was brutally nerfed...It issss a grenade launcher and its kinda doing what its supposed to do, aside from its range, but there's a legit reason for the range, its for clearing out clusters of players that are trying to try the whole safety in numbers strategy.
I hate the MD, and I do think it's horribly OP. I bet most of the current MD guys used to be flaylock guys. Something has to be done about the MD though. The funny thing is people gripe about forge guns being OP, but here's the thing. At least forge guns have a drawback, they have to charge, and when charged, the user is slowed way down. If there's not going to reduce the radius/damage it does, here's some ideas:
1. Reduce the clip size to 2 rounds.
2. Lengthen the firing time between rounds.
3. Reduce the amount of ammo able to be carried.
4. Make it harder to aim it, triple the recoil of it.
Don't know, just some random thoughts. I hate the MD though, so I'll back any attempts to nerf it. |
Bright Cloud
Namtar Elite
Gallente Federation
209
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Posted - 2013.09.24 08:33:00 -
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Its so OP thats why you see every 1 run around with it. Oh wait the AR is the most popular weapon and the numbers of active MD users has shrinked due to the introduction of AIM assist. |
SirManBoy
Molon Labe.
RISE of LEGION
277
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Posted - 2013.09.24 09:27:00 -
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No way can anyone say that the MD is OP now. Given the current state of the AR, that's simply a silly statement. The MD is fine and harder to use than ever now that lining up shots in the open is just asking for death. |
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Korvin Lomont
United Pwnage Service
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.09.24 10:20:00 -
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Bright Cloud wrote:Its so OP thats why you see every 1 run around with it. Oh wait the AR is the most popular weapon and the numbers of active MD users has shrinked due to the introduction of AIM assist.
Honestly lately I see a lot more guns in the killfeed, AR AsCR, SCR, MD, FG and LR. So I think there quite a good mix lately.
On the MD it is a nasty little toy especially if you encouter groups of MD users this thing gets really annoying. But the only one I would consider OP (if at all) is the Assault variant fully skilled up a blast radius of nearly 10m is a bit ridiculus IMHO |
kickin six
Royal Uhlans
Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2013.09.24 11:19:00 -
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OP? Maybe. But first they should do something about the rifles. Cheers |
Skihids
Bullet Cluster
2164
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Posted - 2013.09.24 11:25:00 -
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Wow, there are still MD haters out there with enough rage to post threads.
I've run them since closed beta, but even I've drifted over to the AR for half my play time because the AR wins against the MD nearly every time.
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Cosgar
ParagonX
5398
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Posted - 2013.09.24 11:44:00 -
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I love how the MD QQers complaining about the MD but want to stop nerfing things whenever an AR topic gets brought up. ****ing hypocrites.... |
Vesago Ghostcore
Rejected Clones
21
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Posted - 2013.09.24 11:54:00 -
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It's funny but it seems like the OP discussion for any weapon starts with a story of someone getting owned by said weapon in a match. That being said, I think the needle is OP. |
Cosgar
ParagonX
5400
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Posted - 2013.09.24 12:32:00 -
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Vesago Ghostcore wrote:It's funny but it seems like the OP discussion for any weapon starts with a story of someone getting owned by said weapon in a match. That being said, I think the needle is OP.
Well in that case, the map is OP. At least half my deaths come from invisible walls and getting stuck on the terrain. Hell, one time the ground actually swallowed me. |
Meeko Fent
Seituoda Taskforce Command
Caldari State
984
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Posted - 2013.09.24 12:51:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:I love how the MD QQers complaining about the MD but want to stop nerfing things whenever an AR topic gets brought up. ****ing hypocrites....
Yeah, funny ain't it? |
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