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I-Shayz-I wrote:

Assault rifles have got to be less accurate, hip firing and ADS

I use the Assault Scrambler Rifle and can out DPS almost anything EXCEPT ARs. Even with two complex damage mods it's still not enough for some reason.

I decided to try it out and got to level 3 AR operation, no skills into anything else AR related, and was able to down players with the Gek just as easily with my Carthum Assault Scrambler Rifle with proficiency 4. THIS IS RIDICULOUS.

I shouldn't have to run away from players with Assault rifles as they tear through my armor like it's nothing. I run a suit with 250 shield/550 armor and I still get sliced up like nothing by Assault rifles.

There was even a time when I was in a firefight with a militia AR on a militia heavy, and lost for no reason whatsoever.

The reason I use my scrambler instead of an AR is because it's supposed to be more accurate at long range, it has more ammunition, and possibly a headshot bonus (hence scrambler), but apparently none of this matters when you have the almighty Assault Rifle that can be deadly in anyone's hands, at any range, and with any suit.

GAH
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The breach should have high accuracy (how the standard is now), medium rate of fire, high damage, and short range.
The standard should have medium accuracy, high rate of fire, medium damage and medium range (how the breach is now)
The tactical should have super high accuracy, super low rate of fire, high damage and long range
The burst should have high accuracy, medium rate of fire, medium damage, and long range

Currently:
The standard has high accuracy, high rate of fire, medium damage, and long range.

Sigh -_-

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I-Shayz-I Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic 862	Posted - 2013.09.08 06:20:00 - [1] - Quote Assault rifles have got to be less accurate, hip firing and ADS I use the Assault Scrambler Rifle and can out DPS almost anything EXCEPT ARs. Even with two complex damage mods it's still not enough for some reason. I decided to try it out and got to level 3 AR operation, no skills into anything else AR related, and was able to down players with the Gek just as easily with my Carthum Assault Scrambler Rifle with proficiency 4. THIS IS RIDICULOUS. I shouldn't have to run away from players with Assault rifles as they tear through my armor like it's nothing. I run a suit with 250 shield/550 armor and I still get sliced up like nothing by Assault rifles. There was even a time when I was in a firefight with a militia AR on a militia heavy, and lost for no reason whatsoever. The reason I use my scrambler instead of an AR is because it's supposed to be more accurate at long range, it has more ammunition, and possibly a headshot bonus (hence scrambler), but apparently none of this matters when you have the almighty Assault Rifle that can be deadly in anyone's hands, at any range, and with any suit. GAH _____________________________ The breach should have high accuracy (how the standard is now), medium rate of fire, high damage, and short range. The standard should have medium accuracy, high rate of fire, medium damage and medium range (how the breach is now) The tactical should have super high accuracy, super low rate of fire, high damage and long range The burst should have high accuracy, medium rate of fire, medium damage, and long range Currently: The standard has high accuracy, high rate of fire, medium damage, and long range. Sigh -_-
Godin Thekiller Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 564	Posted - 2013.09.08 06:35:00 - [2] - Quote Try having just the shield. That's what it's like being a Scout suit. Nerf the ******* aimbot, and all will be fine.
I-Shayz-I Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic 862	Posted - 2013.09.08 06:39:00 - [3] - Quote Godin Thekiller wrote: Try having just the shield. That's what it's like being a Scout suit. Nerf the ******* aimbot, and all will be fine. I still have a scout alt. I actually find myself fairing better as a scout cause I can actually keep an eye on players.
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 1774	Posted - 2013.09.08 06:52:00 - [4] - Quote AR have some ungodly range.
ugg reset Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION 380	Posted - 2013.09.08 06:56:00 - [5] - Quote Godin Thekiller wrote: Try having just the shield. That's what it's like being a Scout suit. Nerf the ******* aimbot, and all will be fine. What? Can't Dance in the open any more. Just because you move around the board like a ghost dosen't mean my bullets should treat you the same way.
Jathniel G I A N T EoN. 860	Posted - 2013.09.08 08:36:00 - [6] - Quote I have less total hit points then you on my Gal Logi, and i really don't find the AR to be a problem. The AR is fine, the assault scrambler is probably the only automatic weapon next to the HMG that doesnt have a Sharpshooter skill. But also remember, the assault scrambler is supposed to be the Amarr cheap knockoff of the Gallente blaster rifle. You won't win a fight against a Heavy with an AR, because the moment both of you are down to armor he will out dps you by at least 10% damage. Best bet, use the weapon for the circumstance. You would get more dps swapping to an assault smg. Think differently about combat.
Jathniel G I A N T EoN. 860	Posted - 2013.09.08 08:41:00 - [7] - Quote True Adamance wrote: AR have some ungodly range. ARs are hitting at range, but the damage is mitigated. The AR really is fine. It's not going to put you down fast at range. Check the range they are hitting you at It also may seem to be further away, because the FOV is wider now, almost like it was in Chromosome (at least it seems that way to me). but ranges are spot on.
GHOSTLY ANNIHILATOR The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 64	Posted - 2013.09.08 08:56:00 - [8] - Quote I-Shayz-I wrote: Assault rifles have got to be less accurate, hip firing and ADS I use the Assault Scrambler Rifle and can out DPS almost anything EXCEPT ARs. Even with two complex damage mods it's still not enough for some reason. I decided to try it out and got to level 3 AR operation, no skills into anything else AR related, and was able to down players with the Gek just as easily with my Carthum Assault Scrambler Rifle with proficiency 4. THIS IS RIDICULOUS. I shouldn't have to run away from players with Assault rifles as they tear through my armor like it's nothing. I run a suit with 250 shield/550 armor and I still get sliced up like nothing by Assault rifles. There was even a time when I was in a firefight with a militia AR on a militia heavy, and lost for no reason whatsoever. The reason I use my scrambler instead of an AR is because it's supposed to be more accurate at long range, it has more ammunition, and possibly a headshot bonus (hence scrambler), but apparently none of this matters when you have the almighty Assault Rifle that can be deadly in anyone's hands, at any range, and with any suit. GAH _____________________________ The breach should have high accuracy (how the standard is now), medium rate of fire, high damage, and short range. The standard should have medium accuracy, high rate of fire, medium damage and medium range (how the breach is now) The tactical should have super high accuracy, super low rate of fire, high damage and long range The burst should have high accuracy, medium rate of fire, medium damage, and long range Currently: The standard has high accuracy, high rate of fire, medium damage, and long range. Sigh -_- Iknow how u feel .____. One day
Cosgar ParagonX 4967	Posted - 2013.09.08 09:25:00 - [9] - Quote Been saying this **** since Chrome and had to learn the hard way that nobody that matters ever cares. Hope you have better luck than me...
I-Shayz-I Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic 866	Posted - 2013.09.08 09:54:00 - [10] - Quote For now I'm just having to keep my range on assault rifles instead of rushing in, try and keep my longer optimal to my advantage instead of falling into theirs. I also switched out a damage mod for a shield recharge so that I can use the buffer more often, and used the extra pg to fill up my equipment (maybe one of these days I'll skill into repair nanohives). Seems to be helping if I don't just rush in like an assault player.

True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 1779	Posted - 2013.09.08 10:27:00 - [11] - Quote Jathniel wrote: True Adamance wrote: AR have some ungodly range. ARs are hitting at range, but the damage is mitigated. The AR really is fine. It's not going to put you down fast at range. Check the range they are hitting you at It also may seem to be further away, because the FOV is wider now, almost like it was in Chromosome (at least it seems that way to me). but ranges are spot on. Oh but it does. Far faster than my laser can put down enemies.
I-Shayz-I Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic 866	Posted - 2013.09.08 10:43:00 - [12] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Jathniel wrote: True Adamance wrote: AR have some ungodly range. ARs are hitting at range, but the damage is mitigated. The AR really is fine. It's not going to put you down fast at range. Check the range they are hitting you at It also may seem to be further away, because the FOV is wider now, almost like it was in Chromosome (at least it seems that way to me). but ranges are spot on. Oh but it does. Far faster than my laser can put down enemies. This


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