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Cosgar ParagonX 4896	Posted - 2013.09.06 23:13:00 - [31] - Quote Panther Alpha wrote: Autoaim Bot514 wrote: A quick skype log of vets on dust and AA: [9/6/13 2:10:13 PM] T: you still want dust to be a good game [9/6/13 2:10:15 PM] G: wow this aim assist is uber trash [9/6/13 2:10:22 PM] G: i can see it pulling me to target [9/6/13 2:11:34 PM] C: yes i do.. i have the most sp and probably the most isk of anyone in the game ;) [9/6/13 2:11:49 PM] C: so yea it would be nice if the game magically got good [9/6/13 2:12:01 PM] T: you just have to believe hard enough bro [9/6/13 2:12:09 PM] T: and ccp will make it happppppen! [9/6/13 2:12:12 PM] C: na its proven its junk [9/6/13 2:12:13 PM] A: differnece is i know its a bad game, nad i know its gonna fail [9/6/13 2:12:19 PM] A: just wishful thinking [9/6/13 2:12:25 PM] G: i took 4 of them while i sat on one triage hive [9/6/13 2:12:26 PM] A: but those scrubs on the forums [9/6/13 2:12:30 PM] A: IWS and friends [9/6/13 2:12:31 PM] G: wow this player base is trash [9/6/13 2:12:33 PM] A: pure garbage [9/6/13 2:12:38 PM] T: i just hope this aimassist trash doesn't stay in the game [9/6/13 2:12:43 PM] C: but til i find something else that i can get myself hooked on, i just gotta hope [9/6/13 2:12:48 PM] T: because i was going to try the game in 12-18 months [9/6/13 2:12:52 PM] G: i sat there tanking 3 of tehm strafing in a circle and didnt touch my right stick at all [9/6/13 2:12:59 PM] A: it needs to be removed [9/6/13 2:13:01 PM] T: and with aimassist [9/6/13 2:13:05 PM] T: there is no way ill do that [9/6/13 2:13:22 PM] N: the forums, and the ccp devs in blue posts [9/6/13 2:13:26 PM] N: like the aim assist [9/6/13 2:13:48 PM] C: they should make aim assist apply to the fourms [9/6/13 2:13:52 PM] C: when activated.. u make sense [9/6/13 2:14:04 PM] G: the difference b/w m/kb and ds3 is completely noticeabler [9/6/13 2:14:22 PM] C: yea i will likely go that route too [9/6/13 2:14:31 PM] N: my god, IWS called starcraft a bad game and meant it [9/6/13 2:14:31 PM] G: mouse aim still feels off but i prolly need to rework my settings but its so completely in favor of ds3 its not funny A lot of people seems to have forgotten why the mouse was nerfed in the first place...The QQing, and the Crying was Epic. To all vets out there.. ask yourself this question ; What type of nerf is better, making the mouse useless or making the DS3 a lot better ? When the mouse is based off DS3 stick emulation with no option for raw input, how does the mouse have an advantage? There's no real point in having AA with the current configuration. If it stays, strafing speed caps need to be removed, hit boxes need to be addressed and the 10% weapon damage hot fix (that was meant to compensate for aiming issues in 1.0) has to go. PS: I've used both M/KB and DS3 for this game and I prefer the DS3 if that matters.
Panther Alpha DarkWingsss 1124	Posted - 2013.09.06 23:26:00 - [32] - Quote Cosgar wrote: Panther Alpha wrote: Autoaim Bot514 wrote: A quick skype log of vets on dust and AA: [9/6/13 2:10:13 PM] T: you still want dust to be a good game [9/6/13 2:10:15 PM] G: wow this aim assist is uber trash [9/6/13 2:10:22 PM] G: i can see it pulling me to target [9/6/13 2:11:34 PM] C: yes i do.. i have the most sp and probably the most isk of anyone in the game ;) [9/6/13 2:11:49 PM] C: so yea it would be nice if the game magically got good [9/6/13 2:12:01 PM] T: you just have to believe hard enough bro [9/6/13 2:12:09 PM] T: and ccp will make it happppppen! [9/6/13 2:12:12 PM] C: na its proven its junk [9/6/13 2:12:13 PM] A: differnece is i know its a bad game, nad i know its gonna fail [9/6/13 2:12:19 PM] A: just wishful thinking [9/6/13 2:12:25 PM] G: i took 4 of them while i sat on one triage hive [9/6/13 2:12:26 PM] A: but those scrubs on the forums [9/6/13 2:12:30 PM] A: IWS and friends [9/6/13 2:12:31 PM] G: wow this player base is trash [9/6/13 2:12:33 PM] A: pure garbage [9/6/13 2:12:38 PM] T: i just hope this aimassist trash doesn't stay in the game [9/6/13 2:12:43 PM] C: but til i find something else that i can get myself hooked on, i just gotta hope [9/6/13 2:12:48 PM] T: because i was going to try the game in 12-18 months [9/6/13 2:12:52 PM] G: i sat there tanking 3 of tehm strafing in a circle and didnt touch my right stick at all [9/6/13 2:12:59 PM] A: it needs to be removed [9/6/13 2:13:01 PM] T: and with aimassist [9/6/13 2:13:05 PM] T: there is no way ill do that [9/6/13 2:13:22 PM] N: the forums, and the ccp devs in blue posts [9/6/13 2:13:26 PM] N: like the aim assist [9/6/13 2:13:48 PM] C: they should make aim assist apply to the fourms [9/6/13 2:13:52 PM] C: when activated.. u make sense [9/6/13 2:14:04 PM] G: the difference b/w m/kb and ds3 is completely noticeabler [9/6/13 2:14:22 PM] C: yea i will likely go that route too [9/6/13 2:14:31 PM] N: my god, IWS called starcraft a bad game and meant it [9/6/13 2:14:31 PM] G: mouse aim still feels off but i prolly need to rework my settings but its so completely in favor of ds3 its not funny A lot of people seems to have forgotten why the mouse was nerfed in the first place...The QQing, and the Crying was Epic. To all vets out there.. ask yourself this question ; What type of nerf is better, making the mouse useless or making the DS3 a lot better ? When the mouse is based off DS3 stick emulation with no option for raw input, how does the mouse have an advantage? There's no real point in having AA with the current configuration. If it stays, strafing speed caps need to be removed, hit boxes need to be addressed and the 10% weapon damage hot fix (that was meant to compensate for aiming issues in 1.0) has to go. PS: I've used both M/KB and DS3 for this game and I prefer the DS3 if that matters. I battle for months to make CCP understand that some people are just "good", that doesn't matter what control you prefer to use.. if how you use it that makes the "real" difference... some people are OP with the DS3, others are OP with the mouse. But what CCP have done is literately "Nerf People", and the DS3 won this battle because this is a "Console" game.
Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 3827	Posted - 2013.09.07 00:04:00 - [33] - Quote HOW TO FIX ALL THE CONTROL SCHEMES WITHOUT BREAKING BALANCE 1. Give sixaxis players adjustable speed and acceleration curves for the controller. 2. Give mouse players raw input with optional acceleration and smoothing. Default both of these to "off". 3. Make Move aim work like one of the several games that have actually done it well. Killzone being probably the best example. In terms of settings, this works much like the sixaxis, but with an additional deadzone option (WHICH MUST NOT AFFECT ANY OTHER CONTROL SCHEME). 4. Set a fixed turn speed cap. This can be done on a per-suit basis or with all suits sharing a cap. For sixaxis and Move, your turn speed will be scaled as a percentage-based function. With the mouse, it will just mean that any input exceeding the cap will be treated as an input at the value of the cap. For a sixaxis (or Move) user, this means when you have a flat 0 acceleration curve and a 0 - 100 linear speed curve, tilting your right stick by 20% of its maximum range of motion (accounting for the Move deadzone if applicable) will turn you at 20% of your suit's maximum turn speed. If you have a flat 100% speed curve with a linear 0 - 100% acceleration curve and you tilt the stick by 20%, you'll accelerate from 0 speed up to 100% at a steady rate over a period of 1 second (20% per 0.2s). If you tilt the stick all the way in any direction, you'll immediately turn at maximum speed with the linear speed curve, but you'll rapidly accelerate up to the speed cap if you have the linear acceleration curve. For a mouse user, this means exactly what it says. You have direct control over your movements with the mouse, and your sensitivity setting determines how fast your character turns when you move it. The speed cap means that if you try and rush by "spinning" the mouse or "flicking" it to get a high speed turn, you'll only turn as fast as a max-speed sixaxis user can. Congratulations, now we don't need an invasive aim assist that gets in the way, and everyone has well-implemented controls that actually respond in an understandable and predictable manner. If CCP are worried that us "dirty console peasants" can't set up a personalised set of speed and acceleration curves that suits us as well as the one they've carefully created to keep nobody happy, they could simply give us an option to turn the acceleration off. Doing so would use a flat speed curve, or whatever kind of speed curve CCP are currently using for the non-accelerated portion of the stick, but without switching to acceleration later. Obviously, if you set your sensitivity below 100%, this will prevent you from turning at 100% speed (hence why an adjustable speed curve would be preferable), but it will give players an option to avoid the acceleration problem without being forced into max sensitivity.
Cosgar ParagonX 4898	Posted - 2013.09.07 00:13:00 - [34] - Quote Garrett Blacknova wrote: ... Have you made a topic on this yet?
Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 3829	Posted - 2013.09.07 00:21:00 - [35] - Quote Cosgar wrote: Garrett Blacknova wrote: ... Have you made a topic on this yet? I think I made one back when Uprising first broke aiming. I didn't go quite so in-depth at the time though.
Klash 816 Sanguis Defense Syndicate 53	Posted - 2013.09.07 00:36:00 - [36] - Quote Hmm... What was that old saying? Oh that's right!: HTFU! Adapted or die noob.
Mavado V Noriega SyNergy Gaming EoN. 4199	Posted - 2013.09.07 00:39:00 - [37] - Quote Panther Alpha wrote: Autoaim Bot514 wrote: Panther Alpha wrote: Hey noobs!!... this is what a REAL aimbot looks like ; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4L7WamXJCg Now shut up... Get lost scrub. Imperfects didnt need aimassist to own with their DS3's. People like you is exactly what is wrong with this game, and i'm not talking about you immature, adolescent, stupid forum nickname .... i talking about YOU as a PERSON . incorrect ppl like him arent whats wrong with the game its the ppl still living in a bubble that think DUST is a good shooter its those ppl holding back progress making CCP think this game is up to standard
zibathy numbertwo Nox Aeterna Security 87	Posted - 2013.09.07 00:50:00 - [38] - Quote Autoaim Bot514 wrote: I hope so too, this was Dust, where those who can aim are pro, and everyone else gets farmed. Sadly, those days are behind. CCP is much more content to cater to the FOTM kiddies while they wait for the next CoD. Sigh... the truth hurts

CCP Frame C C P C C P Alliance 1461	Posted - 2013.09.07 04:42:00 - [39] - Quote Troll thread locked.



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