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OZAROW
WarRavens
League of Infamy
568
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Posted - 2013.09.06 11:17:00 -
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An I can see this dude through the wall since I'm hiding in the corner of a wall, he knows I'm there an I see his chevron but neither of us are in each others line of sight, so neither of us shoot cuz were hiding, the he takes a long shot with a charged scram shot, an my hit box must be the size of a bus!
Cuz here I am dead when neither of us could see each other.
It was a perfect angle to block his bullets.
So I ask you:
Anybody else think this instant death hit detection is a bit much?
Scout get caught outside an your dead!
It's bad enough Ar have a sharpshooter skill, a proficiency damage skill, suits that can stack damage mods, now you have a robot that curves bullets around corners an has infinit range an still kills you in 3 shots not even 1 full second, and you can't hide, run, duck.........you die!
It may as well have just blue prints suits they defeated the purpose of skulking into anything |
M McManus
Sinq Laison Gendarmes
Gallente Federation
13
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Posted - 2013.09.06 11:20:00 -
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I've heard heavies and tanks are fun bassicly anything you can shoot with and have over 1000ehp ! |
Yagihige
Crux Special Tasks Group
Gallente Federation
317
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Posted - 2013.09.06 11:23:00 -
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You need to be more specific as to where you were. I've killed people many times in places where they thought i couldn't see them but could. |
BLACKSTAR AND TSUBAKI
SVER True Blood
Public Disorder.
19
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Posted - 2013.09.06 11:28:00 -
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ive been hearing lots bout ppl geting shot round corners aperently its the auto aim it seens to allow you to curve bullets now |
Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
3783
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Posted - 2013.09.06 11:43:00 -
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I thought I had this happen once.
Then I realised there I got shot by the guy behind me (even though the hit marker looked like it came from in front through cover). |
Cosgar
ParagonX
4798
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Posted - 2013.09.06 11:48:00 -
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BLACKSTAR AND TSUBAKI wrote:ive been hearing lots bout ppl geting shot round corners aperently its the auto aim it seens to allow you to curve bullets now
Either that or player hit boxes have been increased to the broad side of a barn levels. You really have to try and miss someone, but the bullets still manage to hit. |
Greasepalms
Ahrendee Mercenaries
EoN.
223
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Posted - 2013.09.06 11:51:00 -
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Maybe he could see you and you werent aware.
I've killed people by shooting at their feet while they're hiding behind those stationary trucks or whatever. |
BLACKSTAR AND TSUBAKI
SVER True Blood
Public Disorder.
20
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Posted - 2013.09.06 11:55:00 -
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Greasepalms wrote:Maybe he could see you and you werent aware.
I've killed people by shooting at their feet while they're hiding behind those stationary trucks or whatever.
i h8 when that **** happens
but i love doing it to ppl  |
Korvin Lomont
United Pwnage Service
RISE of LEGION
137
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Posted - 2013.09.06 11:58:00 -
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BLACKSTAR AND TSUBAKI wrote:ive been hearing lots bout ppl geting shot round corners aperently its the auto aim it seens to allow you to curve bullets now
It happens a lot from my experience but I don't knoew it is a change in the hitbox size the aim assist or simply lag |
calisk galern
BurgezzE.T.F
864
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Posted - 2013.09.06 12:08:00 -
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yep their are alot of times people think they are behind cover, but their ankle is showing, and if it was good enough to kill achilles it's good enough to kill you |
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Operative 1171 Aajli
Bragian Order
Amarr Empire
265
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Posted - 2013.09.06 13:01:00 -
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I was sniping at another sniper and he was behind a hill. He was completely untargetable. Yet, he shoots me. |
Operative 1171 Aajli
Bragian Order
Amarr Empire
265
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Posted - 2013.09.06 13:03:00 -
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calisk galern wrote:yep their are alot of times people think they are behind cover, but their ankle is showing, and if it was good enough to kill achilles it's good enough to kill you
Dammit CCP when will we get a "i was a warrior once until I took an arrow in the knee" sound effect and screen message?
Ankle shots should be one shot kills like headshots with extra points if you can hit them. |
Medic 1879
Forsaken Immortals
Top Men.
1011
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Posted - 2013.09.06 13:33:00 -
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Greasepalms wrote:Maybe he could see you and you werent aware.
I've killed people by shooting at their feet while they're hiding behind those stationary trucks or whatever.
This ^ I have got hatemail before for killing this guy who when I shot him ran straight to the supply depot to change to a heavy (know he was going for a heavy because he had done this previously.) However while he was on the far side of the supply depot I aimed other and shot him in the toes. I was glitching in his eyes.
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Monkey MAC
killer taxi company
General Tso's Alliance
242
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Posted - 2013.09.06 13:38:00 -
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BLACKSTAR AND TSUBAKI wrote:ive been hearing lots bout ppl geting shot round corners aperently its the auto aim it seens to allow you to curve bullets now
It doesn't curve bullets, were you stationrary or moving a little? If your moving then lag compensation means your hitbox will effectvely trails behind you, which gives the impression you are being shot through walls, ccp need to test and confirm this, but this is what appears to be happening!! |
Panther Alpha
DarkWingsss
1109
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Posted - 2013.09.06 13:42:00 -
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I actually kill people by shooting at their foot... If i can see you, i can kill you... that seems to be how the hit-boxes have "always" worked in Dust 514 |
calisk galern
BurgezzE.T.F
871
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Posted - 2013.09.06 13:49:00 -
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Panther Alpha wrote:I actually kill people by shooting at their foot... If i can see you, i can kill you... that seems to be how the hit-boxes have "always" worked in Dust 514
no, back in uprising there were invisible hit boxes everywhere, head glitching was extreme, more times then not when you could see someone behind cover they could shoot you but you couldn't shoot them.
on the flip side the players hit box included the space between the legs, so it was a lot easier to snap shop people, now when you are sniping you need to aim for center of mass. |
Panther Alpha
DarkWingsss
1110
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Posted - 2013.09.06 13:54:00 -
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calisk galern wrote:Panther Alpha wrote:I actually kill people by shooting at their foot... If i can see you, i can kill you... that seems to be how the hit-boxes have "always" worked in Dust 514 no, back in uprising their were invisible hit boxes everywhere, head glitching was extreme, more times then not when you could see someone behind cover they could shoot you but you couldn't shoot them. on the flip side the players hit box included the space between the legs, so it was a lot easier to snap shop people, now when you are sniping you need to aim for center of mass.
Yeah, i did notice that with the sniper rifle yesterday... i was wondering if my aiming got a lot worst all suddenly . |
Niuvo
The Phoenix Federation
445
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Posted - 2013.09.06 13:57:00 -
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I was going up some stairs with a wall on my left side. At the top of the stairs I saw a medframe shotgunner, so I backpeddle into "safety" the enemy was no longer visible, the wall on my left was covering me, he was on top of the stairs but behind the wall I ducked under. DEAD, I looked at the killfeed and it was that damned shotgun. I was in cover my friends.
I'm all for bullet penetration, but let me know what is and what isn't so I can take appropriate cover!
game is crap atm |
Vrain Matari
ZionTCD
818
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Posted - 2013.09.06 14:01:00 -
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BLACKSTAR AND TSUBAKI wrote:ive been hearing lots bout ppl geting shot round corners aperently its the auto aim it seens to allow you to curve bullets now
Total bullkittenpuckie.
I'm not saying it doesn't happen but it's definitely NOT curving Aim Assist bullets.
Prime culprit would be lag compensation applied damage you legitimately took before you retreated around the corner or ducked behind cover. |
Poonmunch
Sanguis Defense Syndicate
328
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Posted - 2013.09.06 14:09:00 -
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The only way to know if this is a real effect would be to test it with no other players around. People have no idea if they were killed by the person they think who killed them.
I've seen some videos people have that claim "bullet bending" or "aim bot" that show apparent impossible kills or "sticky" aiming. In those same videos, these people are not alone. They are often in CQC firefights, so they can't prove that nobody else was shooting at them or their targets.
As a sniper I can tell you that I often kill reds when blues have them in "the guy's just around the corner" situations. Anything a blue does that causes a red to stop moving, dramatically increases the odds of the red guy falling to a sniper bullet or having the sniper bring the red guys armour /shields way, way down.
So what needs to be done (if it hasn't already) is to get some scientific data.
Spawn into a game with squads of buddies or people who want to test. Agree to run tests and not a real game. Put your sniper rifles away (it hurts me to type those words, but science is a harsh mistress).
Then try to replicate these observations. Do it on several occasions at different times of day, so server loads and lag are not issues.
Record your observations on video and report back.
Data, folks.
Munch |
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OZAROW
WarRavens
League of Infamy
572
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Posted - 2013.09.06 14:41:00 -
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No foot shooting, I was in a L shaped nook in the corner, across from that was a pillar and it an the corner of the nook were blocking both our vision but we both knew not to peak or we would get shot, so without peakin he let's off a charged shot that was probably 5 feet or more to the left of me and OHK! |
THE TRAINSPOTTER
ROMANIA Renegades
C0VEN
357
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Posted - 2013.09.06 14:50:00 -
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Greasepalms wrote:Maybe he could see you and you werent aware.
I've killed people by shooting at their feet while they're hiding behind those stationary trucks or whatever.
i did that too few times , i was like "LMFAO you fool"
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Monkey MAC
killer taxi company
General Tso's Alliance
244
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Posted - 2013.09.06 15:00:00 -
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OZAROW wrote:No foot shooting, I was in a L shaped nook in the corner, across from that was a pillar and it an the corner of the nook were blocking both our vision but we both knew not to peak or we would get shot, so without peakin he let's off a charged shot that was probably 5 feet or more to the left of me and OHK!
You mean you saw the shot miss? Then I call bs that it bent round the corner or whatever, someone else shot you, or he moved!! |
LOADED'HORN
Raven Accord
Black Core Alliance
11
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Posted - 2013.09.06 15:09:00 -
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Monkey MAC wrote:BLACKSTAR AND TSUBAKI wrote:ive been hearing lots bout ppl geting shot round corners aperently its the auto aim it seens to allow you to curve bullets now It doesn't curve bullets, were you stationrary or moving a little? If your moving then lag compensation means your hitbox will effectvely trails behind you, which gives the impression you are being shot through walls, ccp need to test and confirm this, but this is what appears to be happening!!
On the new lab map that happened several times. Sure I was well in cover, yet taking fire past a corner or a curve. I could not see anyone. The angles seem a little shady as to when your safe right now.
There did not seem to be lag but there was a storm of fire and activity.
They should make hit boxes smaller to compensate for better aiming now. Small, medium and large frame sizes.
Seems like progress overall, yet there is still optimizing work to be done. |
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