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Aria Gomes
DUST CORE DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2013.09.05 21:31:00 -
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I usually run a lot and look around for other places to hide. Storage bins are your friend. I hide behind one and run to another one. Hiding gives me time to reload if I have to as well as get any enemies that are alone. |
Surt gods end
Demon Ronin
976
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Posted - 2013.09.05 21:40:00 -
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Natalie Herondale wrote:Now, this may seem like a stupid question, but I assure you I'm not an idiot. I know intellectually how to avoid death, but somehow I still keep dying. As far as I'm concerned, I'm completely covered on all sides from enemy fire and somehow get shot at and die. It's seriously like I'm a death magnet, which is my main downfall in this game. I have improved a lot since I first started, but still wish to be a better player. I don't want to be the reason my team loses a match or my corporation loses a tournament or planetary conquest. I want to be the reason we win. People will shoot at me from far away and still manage to kill me, which I don't understand how I'm in their range at that point. It's ridiculous and needs to stop. I do a lot of work, but all of that seems like I'm doing nothing with the amount of times I die. At least half of my deaths might as well have been suicides. I don't know how I keep finding myself in these situations when I do my best to avoid them. Any advice would definitely be appreciated.
You ever thought about dampeners? I run a "GHOST" Scout fit. So I'm mostly going 1vs1 or 1vs2 scenarios. But it allows me to hack and drop RE and move to next, haunt that one.
The combo of Dampeners, Uplinks, scanner works well in helping you team not so directly and hence dying less.
If you really are going for the battle medic role, then your gonna stay NOT BEHIND your squad, but at the edge of them. Think V shape. You want to be not in the middle and behind them, you want to be to the right end or left end.
This allows for a more quick view at who's firing at your team. Keep in mind that as logi your sniper priority. so try and stay close to cover. And if you your spidering a heavy then be prepared to be shot at first.
good luck. |
Rudy Vandersario
The Nimbor Corporation
33
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Posted - 2013.09.05 22:05:00 -
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Garrett Blacknova wrote:Wherever possible, travel with a group. Check behind the group on a regular basis, and watch for flank attacks. Use the minimap to see where your teammates are facing, and try to cover any gaps in their line of sight.
If you hear gunfire, look around and find the source asap, UNLESS it's hitting you. As soon as you take damage, move into cover. Make sure you put a wall between yourself and the direction the shot came from. Once you're in cover, assess the threat as well as possible - how many hits did you take, could you tell the weapon type, how much damage did the shooter deal? You can often get a good idea of the weapon tier and/or how many damage mods they have.
Once you're familiar with the various weapons and their effective ranges, you can often narrow down the attacker's distance and estimate their position quite accurately. With the rebalancing of ranges in 1.4, most players aren't doing this yet, but it probably won't take long for some of us. Taking cover also gives your shield recharge time to kick in, and lets your armour repair if needed (and you have an armour repairer).
If the enemy is close enough to light up on your passive scans, keep them in sight, use the minimap to see where they're going, and if they don't seem to know where you are, exploit that fact to get behind them. If they're tracking you as well, try to lure them into a situation where you have backup, or at least into a range that favours your weapons.
As mentioned, any time it's an option, FLANK. If you see the "you have been scanned" notification, assume the entire enemy team is moving on your position, and try to lead them off-course before reversing direction when the scan fades.
I would say that the best thing you can do is follow this advice to the letter. If you do all this then you can go a long way, I would have written a response along these lines myself but Garrett has done it much better than I would. |
Natalie Herondale
Umbrella Logistics Inc
0
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Posted - 2013.09.05 22:08:00 -
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Paladin Sas wrote:remember this, the only thing more lethal to you than an anemy, is a blueberry... they will get you killed every time
Best advice. |
Natalie Herondale
Umbrella Logistics Inc
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Posted - 2013.09.05 22:17:00 -
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Garrett Blacknova wrote:Wherever possible, travel with a group. Check behind the group on a regular basis, and watch for flank attacks. Use the minimap to see where your teammates are facing, and try to cover any gaps in their line of sight.
If you hear gunfire, look around and find the source asap, UNLESS it's hitting you. As soon as you take damage, move into cover. Make sure you put a wall between yourself and the direction the shot came from. Once you're in cover, assess the threat as well as possible - how many hits did you take, could you tell the weapon type, how much damage did the shooter deal? You can often get a good idea of the weapon tier and/or how many damage mods they have.
Once you're familiar with the various weapons and their effective ranges, you can often narrow down the attacker's distance and estimate their position quite accurately. With the rebalancing of ranges in 1.4, most players aren't doing this yet, but it probably won't take long for some of us. Taking cover also gives your shield recharge time to kick in, and lets your armour repair if needed (and you have an armour repairer).
If the enemy is close enough to light up on your passive scans, keep them in sight, use the minimap to see where they're going, and if they don't seem to know where you are, exploit that fact to get behind them. If they're tracking you as well, try to lure them into a situation where you have backup, or at least into a range that favours your weapons.
As mentioned, any time it's an option, FLANK. If you see the "you have been scanned" notification, assume the entire enemy team is moving on your position, and try to lead them off-course before reversing direction when the scan fades.
Great Advice! I haven't even been paying attention to the "you have been scanned" notification. I didn't even know about it until a day or two ago and then forgot about it. I guess my biggest fault on here is my inability to slow down and be more cautious. I'm always running. I guess that's why there's a saying about running into trouble, but nothing about walking into it. Thank you so much for taking the time to help me out. |
Bittersteel the Bastard
WarRavens League of Infamy
569
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Posted - 2013.09.05 22:24:00 -
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Bittersteel the Bastard wrote:Natalie Herondale wrote:Bittersteel the Bastard wrote:Natalie Herondale wrote:Now, this may seem like a stupid question, but I assure you I'm not an idiot. I know intellectually how to avoid death, but somehow I still keep dying. As far as I'm concerned, I'm completely covered on all sides from enemy fire and somehow get shot at and die. It's seriously like I'm a death magnet, which is my main downfall in this game. I have improved a lot since I first started, but still wish to be a better player. I don't want to be the reason my team loses a match or my corporation loses a tournament or planetary conquest. I want to be the reason we win. People will shoot at me from far away and still manage to kill me, which I don't understand how I'm in their range at that point. It's ridiculous and needs to stop. I do a lot of work, but all of that seems like I'm doing nothing with the amount of times I die. At least half of my deaths might as well have been suicides. I don't know how I keep finding myself in these situations when I do my best to avoid them. Any advice would definitely be appreciated. My advice is run with a squad. Currently in this new patch the aim assist is a tad on the high side making weapons like the AR able to kill you quickly. Could you tell me what kind of loadout you run? Or what kind of role you want to play on the battlefield? Because you don't have to be the person with the highest KDR. You could be a logi, etc. I'm good at sniping, but would like to be a logi because not all maps are great for that. I love dropping uplinks, reviving people, and hacking. I also, needless to say, love killing people, but do not enjoy dying... Then I'd say Amarr logi. They are the most combat focused of the logi roles. Just stack that bad boy up with armour plates. Put an ADV AR or SCR on there and fit it full of equipment. Then stick to the back of the group and behind cover. That way you can rep people coming from the frontline, cover the rear, and put down some cover fire. The suit will have decent tank but little speed.
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Natalie Herondale
Umbrella Logistics Inc
0
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Posted - 2013.09.06 01:54:00 -
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Bittersteel the Bastard wrote:Bittersteel the Bastard wrote:Natalie Herondale wrote:Bittersteel the Bastard wrote:Natalie Herondale wrote:Now, this may seem like a stupid question, but I assure you I'm not an idiot. I know intellectually how to avoid death, but somehow I still keep dying. As far as I'm concerned, I'm completely covered on all sides from enemy fire and somehow get shot at and die. It's seriously like I'm a death magnet, which is my main downfall in this game. I have improved a lot since I first started, but still wish to be a better player. I don't want to be the reason my team loses a match or my corporation loses a tournament or planetary conquest. I want to be the reason we win. People will shoot at me from far away and still manage to kill me, which I don't understand how I'm in their range at that point. It's ridiculous and needs to stop. I do a lot of work, but all of that seems like I'm doing nothing with the amount of times I die. At least half of my deaths might as well have been suicides. I don't know how I keep finding myself in these situations when I do my best to avoid them. Any advice would definitely be appreciated. My advice is run with a squad. Currently in this new patch the aim assist is a tad on the high side making weapons like the AR able to kill you quickly. Could you tell me what kind of loadout you run? Or what kind of role you want to play on the battlefield? Because you don't have to be the person with the highest KDR. You could be a logi, etc. I'm good at sniping, but would like to be a logi because not all maps are great for that. I love dropping uplinks, reviving people, and hacking. I also, needless to say, love killing people, but do not enjoy dying... Then I'd say Amarr logi. They are the most combat focused of the logi roles. Just stack that bad boy up with armour plates. Put an ADV AR or SCR on there and fit it full of equipment. Then stick to the back of the group and behind cover. That way you can rep people coming from the frontline, cover the rear, and put down some cover fire. The suit will have decent tank but little speed.
The only other suits that I use right now besides Starter Fit is Minimatar Light Suit, which I'm not really using currently, Amarr Heavy, and Amarr Medium. I need to save up for an Amarr Logi and then I really want to get a proto. I'm confused on what modules I should buy though (armor plates, precision enhancement, profile dampener, etc). |
Bittersteel the Bastard
WarRavens League of Infamy
572
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Posted - 2013.09.06 01:58:00 -
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Natalie Herondale wrote:
The only other suits that I use right now besides Starter Fit is Minimatar Light Suit, which I'm not really using currently, Amarr Heavy, and Amarr Medium. I need to save up for an Amarr Logi and then I really want to get a proto. I'm confused on what modules I should buy though (armor plates, precision enhancement, profile dampener, etc).
I really don't think the proto suit is as important as the equipment. I'd say get ADV Amarr Logi then go into equipment. If you skill the nanite skill up you get both nanite injectors and nanohives. You might want to get an active scanner first. I use the standard Flux variant and it works wonders/ I'm not longer blind as a bat.
I went proto suit first and now im going equipment so I have nothing to fit in my proto suit I couldn't just fit in my ADV suit.
I'd also recommend core skills. Get Armor and Shield skills up to level 3 to give you a little more survivability. |
RuckingFetard
Better Hide R Die
501
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Posted - 2013.09.06 02:23:00 -
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Bittersteel the Bastard wrote:Natalie Herondale wrote:
The only other suits that I use right now besides Starter Fit is Minimatar Light Suit, which I'm not really using currently, Amarr Heavy, and Amarr Medium. I need to save up for an Amarr Logi and then I really want to get a proto. I'm confused on what modules I should buy though (armor plates, precision enhancement, profile dampener, etc).
I really don't think the proto suit is as important as the equipment. I'd say get ADV Amarr Logi then go into equipment. If you skill the nanite skill up you get both nanite injectors and nanohives. You might want to get an active scanner first. I use the standard Flux variant and it works wonders/ I'm not longer blind as a bat. I went proto suit first and now im going equipment so I have nothing to fit in my proto suit I couldn't just fit in my ADV suit. I'd also recommend core skills. Get Armor and Shield skills up to level 3 to give you a little more survivability. Edit: Since you're going for Amarr Logi I'd recommend going for armor and damage mods as modules. Basically this. |
Riprising the logistic
D3LTA FORC3 Inver Brass
3
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Posted - 2013.09.06 02:26:00 -
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I had a good laugh at this one.
But honestly if you're dying because you get hit from random and unavoidable stuff like forge guns or snipers either don't spawn in around that area or just completely avoid that kill zone and let your blueberries "commit suicide". |
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