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LT SHANKS
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
452
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Posted - 2013.09.04 22:31:00 -
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I barely see them now, and because they are semi-rare, I will now spec into them. 
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BobThe 844-1 CakeMan
Murder Cakes Of Doom
254
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Posted - 2013.09.04 22:34:00 -
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why did they get nerfed? if not i will still be using my freedom. :D |
LT SHANKS
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
454
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Posted - 2013.09.04 22:39:00 -
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BobThe 844-1 CakeMan wrote:why did they get nerfed? if not i will still be using my freedom. :D
ARs, LRs, and ScRs now dominate the battlefield. I won't complain about the new aim-assist but it clearly has made the mentioned weapons easier to use.
I will now devote all my saved SP into attaining the best possible Assault Mass Driver (Boundless I presume?). I do not mind the low damage, but I feel it can still serve as a decent weapon for my support Logi. |
bonkersfox
Foxhound Corporation
General Tso's Alliance
227
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Posted - 2013.09.04 22:40:00 -
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don't count your chickens, you don't see them because its harder to find the enemy, instead of just following the herd you have to search for targets,
iv been doing much better than before I got 27 kills today, the confusion of not having a good scan means I can walk right up behind clones, do a little dance and a bit of baggin then put an md round threw the back of their heads... |
CharCharOdell
Shining Flame
Amarr Empire
589
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Posted - 2013.09.04 22:42:00 -
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mass drivers are so 1.3
It's all about the laser and asr now.
ar is always fotm so whatevs |
BobThe 844-1 CakeMan
Murder Cakes Of Doom
254
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Posted - 2013.09.04 22:43:00 -
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CharCharOdell wrote:mass drivers are so 1.3
It's all about the laser and asr now.
ar is always fotm so whatevs
good thing i have an AR. forge gun will also always be FOTM which i have. :D |
LT SHANKS
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
454
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Posted - 2013.09.04 22:44:00 -
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CharCharOdell wrote:mass drivers are so 1.3
This is exactly why I'll be using them. |
Skihids
Bullet Cluster
2015
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Posted - 2013.09.04 22:45:00 -
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Hit-scan full auto weapons like the AR received a huge buff via better hit detection and the aim-assist.
MD's were always at a DPS disadvantage, but now it's obvious even to the MD haters.
MD users are now forced to stay behind the front lines to survive at all. |
bonkersfox
Foxhound Corporation
General Tso's Alliance
227
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Posted - 2013.09.04 22:48:00 -
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speak for yourself but im always at the front of the queue  |
Blaze Ashra
O.U.T.E.R. S.A.N.C.T.U.M.
15
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Posted - 2013.09.04 22:49:00 -
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I think its funny how all the mass drivers are over powered threads stopped overnight when aim assist was came back. |
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Spycrab Potato
Hold-Your-Fire
371
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Posted - 2013.09.04 22:50:00 -
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LT SHANKS wrote:I barely see them now, and because they are semi-rare, I will now spec into them.
Shhhhhhhhhh. Don't ever bring it up again. Why can't we just lie low while we have the chance? |
semperfi1999
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
826
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Posted - 2013.09.04 22:52:00 -
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Skihids wrote:Hit-scan full auto weapons like the AR received a huge buff via better hit detection and the aim-assist.
MD's were always at a DPS disadvantage, but now it's obvious even to the MD haters.
MD users are now forced to stay behind the front lines to survive at all.
I havent played yet honestly but if hit detection has been fixed and AA is as strong as ppl are claiming I can see this being an issue. Its almost now a comedy how as CCP brings out new patches they end up making certain weapons nigh unstoppable. Honestly didnt need AA what was needed was smoother/better aiming mechanics not a program that helps you aim. I imagine alot of bad players KDR will rise due to this and if good players still try to take on a ton of guys at once their KDR is likely to go down... |
Skihids
Bullet Cluster
2016
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Posted - 2013.09.04 22:56:00 -
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I'm speced into AR too, but I just prefer the MD on my Logi suit so I'll keep it even if the AR is the new OP weapon. |
Spycrab Potato
Hold-Your-Fire
373
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Posted - 2013.09.04 23:01:00 -
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Skihids wrote:I'm speced into AR too, but I just prefer the MD on my Logi suit so I'll keep it even if the AR is the new OP weapon.
That's not new. |
Dust Project 514
Pistol King
268
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Posted - 2013.09.04 23:04:00 -
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Automatic weapons are all the **** now.
Only saw about one or two people using MDs in the last two battles I was in. |
Princeps Marcellus
Expert Intervention
Caldari State
198
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Posted - 2013.09.04 23:14:00 -
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Remember how, in the heat of the mass driver FotM, one of the devs said that they wouldn't be seeing anymore complaints about MDs? Damn, they were right. |
Zahle Undt
Bullet Cluster
283
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Posted - 2013.09.04 23:18:00 -
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semperfi1999 wrote:Skihids wrote:Hit-scan full auto weapons like the AR received a huge buff via better hit detection and the aim-assist.
MD's were always at a DPS disadvantage, but now it's obvious even to the MD haters.
MD users are now forced to stay behind the front lines to survive at all. I havent played yet honestly but if hit detection has been fixed and AA is as strong as ppl are claiming I can see this being an issue. Its almost now a comedy how as CCP brings out new patches they end up making certain weapons nigh unstoppable. Honestly didnt need AA what was needed was smoother/better aiming mechanics not a program that helps you aim. I imagine alot of bad players KDR will rise due to this and if good players still try to take on a ton of guys at once their KDR is likely to go down...
So its more like how it should have always been, being able to take on several guys at once because of bad hd and being able to strafe minute distances back and forth was an exploit of game mechanics and players that relied on it were not really good but exploiters. The truly good players will adapt and still be good players.
On the actual topic, the MD will still be a good support weapon. Personally I look forward to the MD being more of a logi weapon again |
Kinkku-Ananas Kepappi
Tal-Romon Legion
Amarr Empire
69
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Posted - 2013.09.04 23:59:00 -
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The new maps are a bit too open for MD to shine.
AR seems to really excel now, Laser Rifle is good but its damage on armor is so pitiful the regular AR is better since everyone just bricktanks. |
Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe.
RISE of LEGION
1131
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Posted - 2013.09.05 00:01:00 -
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I can now use my MD again free of shame. |
Bojo The Mighty
Zanzibar Concept
1668
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Posted - 2013.09.05 00:06:00 -
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Ok what I noticed:
AA helps people recover much quicker from explosion kickback. In essence, there was a slight nerf to a pro of Mass Drivers. You get out DPS'd and now with the recoil/explosion/Aim Assist it is fairly noticeable. |
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Thor McStrut
Reckoners
157
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Posted - 2013.09.05 00:19:00 -
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Thor Odinson42 wrote:I can now use my MD again free of shame.
Likewise. My only shame will now be from my **** play and low KDR and WP/D again. I miss shoddy hit detection...  |
Skihids
Bullet Cluster
2019
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Posted - 2013.09.05 00:55:00 -
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Bojo The Mighty wrote:Ok what I noticed:
AA helps people recover much quicker from explosion kickback. In essence, there was a slight nerf to a pro of Mass Drivers. You get out DPS'd and now with the recoil/explosion/Aim Assist it is fairly noticeable.
You (or at least I) can't go 1v1 with an AR at medium to close range anymore. They simply out DPS my weapon and don't stop hitting me no matter what I do. I'll maybe get off two rounds if the AR is close, or a couple more at long range, but then a couple are dodged so it works out the same.
I'm treating it strictly as behind the lines support, but then I'm a Logi and that's where I should be most of he time anyway. My support suits are squishy and cost big bucks. |
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