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Knight Soiaire
Better Hide R Die
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Posted - 2013.09.04 17:27:00 -
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I'm being Logied by them far more often now, dont nerf their resistances, they need to be able to tank some damage.
The collision changes was enough to make them balanced, only roadkilling was ridiculous, not their resistances. |
Obodiah Garro
Tech Guard General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2013.09.04 17:32:00 -
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Utter bullshit
They have far too much ehp with their resists, either drop their resists in line with SLAV or their ehp to SLAV, super tank on 4 wheels is stupid. |
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Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.09.04 17:41:00 -
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Obodiah Garro wrote:Utter bullshit
They have far too much ehp with their resists, either drop their resists in line with SLAV or their ehp to SLAV, super tank on 4 wheels is stupid.
What do you mean by they?! the limbus is where it needs to be. the chary doesn't have anything to fear AV wise other than lolfluxgrenades and the occasional wise guy with a blaster turret.
still waiting on anti shield AV... |
Knight Soiaire
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Posted - 2013.09.04 17:43:00 -
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Obodiah Garro wrote:Utter bullshit
They have far too much ehp with their resists, either drop their resists in line with SLAV or their ehp to SLAV, super tank on 4 wheels is stupid.
Yes, lets make them paper thin and useless.
NERF BRIGADE ONWARD!
Their eHP isn't the problem, their ability to roadkill was, now they cant roadkill as effectively, but they can still Logi, and live long enough to tell about it. |
Thumb Green
Novashift
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Posted - 2013.09.04 17:45:00 -
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The only nerf they need is a drastic reduction in speed. Then they need an actual cab so they can do what they're supposed to do without having to worry too much about getting shot out of the driver seat. |
Im a PIGEON
Reckoners
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Posted - 2013.09.04 17:50:00 -
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Their EHP is still a problem when they have comparable survivability to tanks.
LLAVs don't need a nerf to EHP though, they need to somehow nerf the amount of extra tanking modules you can add to it.
Maybe if they reduce the PG and CPU of the LLAV, but give it reduced fitting costs on Log-related modules? |
Daxxis KANNAH
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.09.04 17:56:00 -
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Logi vehicles like logi suits should have to be protected by the rest of the team to do their job. You should have to defend (or clear out) the hot zone for them to come in and work
- more durability than normal lav's but not enough to make them brazen. It promotes the wrong type of gameplay. |
Den-tredje Baron
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2013.09.04 18:35:00 -
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Knight Soiaire wrote:Obodiah Garro wrote:Utter bullshit
They have far too much ehp with their resists, either drop their resists in line with SLAV or their ehp to SLAV, super tank on 4 wheels is stupid. Yes, lets make them paper thin and useless. NERF BRIGADE ONWARD!Their eHP isn't the problem, their ability to roadkill was, now they cant roadkill as effectively, but they can still Logi, and live long enough to tell about it.
Well when they have more effective EHP than hmm A TANK maybe they are able to tell about to many stories. Reduce their resistance and nothing else boom, No sorry reduce resistance on the shield LLAV and everything is good the Limbus has never butthurt anyone.
When it comes to the SLAV well BUFF !! make it able to pick up an ant 1 km away ..... SOMETHING just something. |
Jade Hasegawa
Intrepidus XI EoN.
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Posted - 2013.09.04 19:15:00 -
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Knight Soiaire wrote:I'm being Logied by them far more often now, dont nerf their resistances, they need to be able to tank some damage.
The collision changes was enough to make them balanced, only roadkilling was ridiculous, not their resistances. Murder taxi is stillgoing on so I say nerf the crud out of them dmage the sodding things when used like that! |
Knight Soiaire
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Posted - 2013.09.04 19:26:00 -
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Jade Hasegawa wrote:Knight Soiaire wrote:I'm being Logied by them far more often now, dont nerf their resistances, they need to be able to tank some damage.
The collision changes was enough to make them balanced, only roadkilling was ridiculous, not their resistances. Murder taxi is stillgoing on so I say nerf the crud out of them dmage the sodding things when used like that!
You're delusional.
Sure, its still happening, but not as much, what do you want? Immunity to collision damage?
A LLAV has to be going at 60mph to kill, at that speed they lose manouverability, you're just complaining because you're bad. |
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Knight Soiaire
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Posted - 2013.09.04 19:26:00 -
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Den-tredje Baron wrote:Knight Soiaire wrote:Obodiah Garro wrote:Utter bullshit
They have far too much ehp with their resists, either drop their resists in line with SLAV or their ehp to SLAV, super tank on 4 wheels is stupid. Yes, lets make them paper thin and useless. NERF BRIGADE ONWARD!Their eHP isn't the problem, their ability to roadkill was, now they cant roadkill as effectively, but they can still Logi, and live long enough to tell about it. Well when they have more effective EHP than hmm A TANK maybe they are able to tell about to many stories. Reduce their resistance and nothing else boom, No sorry reduce resistance on the shield LLAV and everything is good the Limbus has never butthurt anyone. When it comes to the SLAV well BUFF !! make it able to pick up an ant 1 km away ..... SOMETHING just something.
HAVs are underpowered.
LLAVs are balanced. |
Godin Thekiller
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
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Posted - 2013.09.04 19:31:00 -
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Im a PIGEON wrote:Their EHP is still a problem when they have comparable survivability to tanks.
LLAVs don't need a nerf to EHP though, they need to somehow nerf the amount of extra tanking modules you can add to it.
Maybe if they reduce the PG and CPU of the LLAV, but give it reduced fitting costs on Log-related modules?
That's because they can easily dodge shots. If the speed and acceleration was reduced, it wouldn't be near the propblem it is now. But then, at the same time, their Logi abilities would need to be buffed, as we all know it's still ****. Take a look at this for my idea on how. |
Godin Thekiller
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
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Posted - 2013.09.04 19:34:00 -
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Den-tredje Baron wrote:Knight Soiaire wrote:Obodiah Garro wrote:Utter bullshit
They have far too much ehp with their resists, either drop their resists in line with SLAV or their ehp to SLAV, super tank on 4 wheels is stupid. Yes, lets make them paper thin and useless. NERF BRIGADE ONWARD!Their eHP isn't the problem, their ability to roadkill was, now they cant roadkill as effectively, but they can still Logi, and live long enough to tell about it. Well when they have more effective EHP than hmm A TANK maybe they are able to tell about to many stories. Reduce their resistance and nothing else boom, No sorry reduce resistance on the shield LLAV and everything is good the Limbus has never butthurt anyone. When it comes to the SLAV well BUFF !! make it able to pick up an ant 1 km away ..... SOMETHING just something.
LLV's never had near the eHP of a HAV. LLV's get about 5-6k eHP, while HAV's get about 9-11k eHP (well, maybe lower seeing as 60% of people using vehicles aren't skilled pilots). The problem lies when they could never actually hit, then the LLV's could rep all the damage, making it seem as though they have tons of eHP, especially the Chary's, as they get even more resistances towards most of the weapons that can be considered a AV weapon. |
Godin Thekiller
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
471
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Posted - 2013.09.04 19:36:00 -
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Daxxis KANNAH wrote:Logi vehicles like logi suits should have to be protected by the rest of the team to do their job. You should have to defend (or clear out) the hot zone for them to come in and work
- more durability than normal lav's but not enough to make them brazen. It promotes the wrong type of gameplay. It's called aim at the logi. if someone stands in your way, have someone else chase them off while killing said Logi. They shouldn't be made out of glass like your describing, they just need to move slower. |
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