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CCP Mintchip
C C P
C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2013.09.04 16:26:00 -
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This thread is for specific feedback on any Fracture Road map in the Domination game mode. Please post any issues you have with the map in this thread. If addressing a specific section of the map, please include the grid coordinates included in the image above for easier verification.
Thanks Immortals!
CCP Mintchip // Twitter - @CCP_Mintchip
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Aero Yassavi
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1533
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Posted - 2013.09.05 07:34:00 -
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Really like how the objective is not at any of the places they are in Skirmish and rather on this hill. Makes it feel really unique compared to its Skirmish variant. |
I-Shayz-I
Forty-Nine Fedayeen
Minmatar Republic
811
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Posted - 2013.09.06 10:59:00 -
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FINALLY
An actual king of the hill map! |
Monty Mole Clone
Shiv M
64
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Posted - 2013.09.14 19:20:00 -
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both teams need access on foot to the large pipeline leading to the the central structure or neither should have it |
Aero Yassavi
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1723
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Posted - 2013.09.15 03:13:00 -
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Monty Mole Clone wrote:both teams need access on foot to the large pipeline leading to the the central structure or neither should have it
Agreed with this. It's stupid how one team can control the ledge around the objective and completely dominate. |
Text Grant
Conspiratus Immortalis
Covert Intervention
153
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Posted - 2013.09.18 11:16:00 -
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Remove the pipes! |
Garth Mandra
The Southern Legion
The Umbra Combine
139
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Posted - 2013.10.07 02:10:00 -
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I've played a whole bunch of domination matches on this map and there is an overwhelming strategy.
If one team manages to get uplinks on the pipes above the point (6G) then the other team will lose unless they can remove them.
This results in a race to the pipes when you have two teams that know the strat and the one that holds the pipes wins.
I would recommend moving the point to one of the other sides of the central tower - probably the edge closest to 7H. This way each set of pipes would be equally useful and it will be harder for a team to completely dominate with a couple of uplinks. That hill there isn't quite a interesting as the current location of the point but it should be an improvement given the current pipes situation. |
Valerie Viever
Hellstorm Inc
League of Infamy
19
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Posted - 2013.10.14 05:26:00 -
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North side of g7 , the ledge that overlooks the objective, has some skeletal pipe structure that is clearly large enough to accommodate a merc or 6, yet has an invisible wall preventing travel under it, forcing units to travel along the edge around it. |
Valerie Viever
Hellstorm Inc
League of Infamy
19
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Posted - 2013.10.14 17:48:00 -
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North side of g7 , the ledge that overlooks the objective, has some skeletal pipe structure that is clearly large enough to accommodate a merc or 6, yet has an invisible wall preventing travel under it, forcing units to travel along the edge around it. |
Unmei no Hoeru
Grupo de Asalto Chacal
RISE of LEGION
52
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Posted - 2013.10.16 06:41:00 -
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Noticed a single problem with this map, the ledges around G7 and that structure as a hole take preference on this game-mode because is the letter is easily defended without any risk and high ground, every match of domination here was decided by who positioned drop-uplinks first there, after that it took too much time get around with an organised squad and not even think about it with a pub group.
I make a petition to make the building a singular monolith, besides if you want high ground that's the purpose of the pipes which comes to say block any orbital strike thrown at that point. This is just my opinion since I think those ledges are very generous in the safe defensive position and unfair when trying to capture the point. |
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Vyzion Eyri
The Southern Legion
The Umbra Combine
1907
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Posted - 2013.11.08 15:13:00 -
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The big central structure that the pipes feed (or draw from) seems to block orbitals from all who stand on the ledge that wraps around it, despite there being a clear view of the sky from it.
Also, the northern ledge had a little scaffolding or something sticking out of it, where some invisible wall prevents us from getting under that scaffolding. Not sure if that was intended to make the ledge a little thinner, but I'd love the extra maneuvering room.
"..things that some people frankly don't even get the chance to do in real life, because it's poorly designed."
-Veigar
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SponkSponkSponk
The Southern Legion
The Umbra Combine
511
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Posted - 2013.11.14 02:36:00 -
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Point should be moved to G7, i.e. not under one set of pipes, but on the side.
Also, please clean up the collision areas on the ledges on the spire, since that is where a lot of fighting takes place and the blocking of movement is unacceptable.
"Pulvis et umbra sumus. (We are but dust and shadow.)"
GÇò Horace, The Odes of Horace
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Lt Royal
Subdreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
2113
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Posted - 2013.11.14 19:07:00 -
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I used to really enjoy this map when it was first released, seeing as the majority of the community had not figured out that who ever own the pipes wins, it was more of an infantry battle for the objective and thats what denomination should be about; over what we have now. Everyone knows that whoever owns the pipes can both; control the objective and have protection from any orbitals.
Seeing as if the pipes were to be removed; people would still try to get onto the ledges that are under the pipes, surrounding the central structure. I can see that removing the ledge might be a problem for the modeling designers, so maybe just change it to a steep 45-¦ angle so people can not deploy uplinks/nanohives and camp upon there.
Simply put; the pipes need to go and maybe even the ledge that surrounds the central structure. |
SponkSponkSponk
The Southern Legion
The Umbra Combine
524
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Posted - 2013.11.21 07:18:00 -
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Ledge definitely needs to go.
What would be good would be to hollow out the bottom of the spire and move the control point underneath it. That way, control of the pipes would provide an advantage, but unless you controlled the pipe on both sides, you wouldnt be able to shut out the enemy team from approaching on foot and hacking the point.
"Pulvis et umbra sumus. (We are but dust and shadow.)"
GÇò Horace, The Odes of Horace
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Borne Velvalor
Endless Hatred
966
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Posted - 2013.11.21 08:59:00 -
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A lot of the time I win this map handily, half the enemy team is camping the pipes and ledge. It doesn't matter if you fly up and grab them if I grab the point and kill you every time you go to capture or peak your head out with my TAR. 
So, I don't think the team that controls the pipes and ledge always wins. I like this map, ledges and all. The only problems I have are Orbitals not always killing players in G7 when they should and the supporting bars on the ledge blocking movement.
Many suits I've worn, many burdens I've borne, for the oaths I've sworn.
Panda.
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Wolfica
Fatal Absolution
366
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Posted - 2013.11.25 23:12:00 -
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I love this map. awesome king of the hill feel. only If the team on the west reaches the top of the hill first the have a visual advantage. whe a player from the east looks up the hill he is looking into the sun and if a person stands on the hill they are sometimes imposible to see because of the glare of the sun. |
Keri Starlight
0uter.Heaven
Proficiency V.
1529
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Posted - 2013.11.27 04:13:00 -
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I absolutely hate Domination on this map, the first dropship taking the building or the pipes and spamming uplinks up there usually wins.
Good luck taking the bulding back, with Forge Gunners and Mass Drivers camping there.
I believe that the central building should be re-designed to prevent camping. It's completely broken to me.
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"I load my gun with love instead of bullets"
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Magnus Amadeuss
Tal-Romon Legion
Amarr Empire
254
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Posted - 2013.11.28 05:21:00 -
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Mintchip:
Please make the left end of the pipe have a gradual incline like the right end of the pipe so both sides can access the ledge on foot.
an easy fix to Matchmaking
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KenKaniff69
Fatal Absolution
949
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Posted - 2013.12.03 15:00:00 -
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Remove the stupid pipes. The one side has a huge advantage in flying dropships to the obj side and the whole game ends up being about 4 square feet on a stupid suspended pipeline.
So about those vehicle locks...
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Ares 514
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
294
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Posted - 2014.01.17 07:52:00 -
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This map needs to go or the objective needs to be moved. I have reached the point where I plan on just having the squad back out if we get this map. The hills you can't climb, the pipes you have to control, the wide open expanses you have to cross leaving you open from tons of angles, and the constant tank spam on this map make it a truly horrible experience even when you win. Also, for some reason this map seems to be a very common one that Scotty just loves putting squads into.
Please fix the mic bubble bug...
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NoxMort3m
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
386
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Posted - 2014.01.18 19:48:00 -
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I hate this map plus 1 to remove the pipes plus 1 to add more cover
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Auris Lionesse
Capital Acquisitions LLC
Renegade Alliance
175
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Posted - 2014.02.07 17:29:00 -
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Worst map in the game, whoever greenlit this should be fired for allowing that square ledge and pipeline to be in the final build.
Ladders need to be added on all the pipe supports if they stay and there need to be dual staircases leading to the cetra edge and remove the tower or open it up so teams aren't immune to orbitals.
Or just make he pipes and ledge count as redline so no equipment can be deployed and you die if you remain there. |
Drak velvel
Blauhelme
Die Fremdenlegion
2
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Posted - 2014.02.19 17:57:00 -
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this map is a really crap, was your mapdesigner drunk or stoned when he done this map?
the point a is the worst ever, you need to get a dropship to cover it, and its a really bullshit to conquer it when the enemy hold the point
pls remove this map or redesign it!
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Ares 514
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
517
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Posted - 2014.02.19 18:02:00 -
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Die map die!
The mic bubble bug... I yield, CCP will be fixing it SOON. Current ETA 1 year since bug
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Martyr Saboteur
Amarrtyrs
139
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Posted - 2014.02.22 20:38:00 -
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This map is horribly one-sided. It really needs to be rethought.
The objective is closer to one team's base than the other team's base.
The pipeline can only be reached by on team on foot.
The objective is easily sniper camped by one team, and not the other.
The objective has an easily camped roof with no ladders or stair leading up to it.
The Left Team has every advantage. How did such a blatantly line sided map make it into the line up?
Totally not Fizzer94's forum alt. Definitely just a random dude.
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Tupni
Capital Acquisitions LLC
Renegade Alliance
71
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Posted - 2014.03.11 23:40:00 -
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Playing this map the other day, spawned on Blue's forward CRU (~ F/G by 11.5), so did most of the team, and next thing I knew I was immediately falling down into the fenced off pit surrounding whatever that thing is supposed to be right next to the CRU and died.
Was a bit frustrating.
Also throwing my vote in with the pipes/objective complaints. More often than not this map is about who flies a dropship in first and spams links above; otherwise it's slated towards Red team. Also the whole Red team spawning closer, having to run up less hills, capacity to sniper camp the point nearly from spawn, the point being sheltered from Blue team, Red having better access to the pipes, no ladders, all that's not my favorite. |
John Demonsbane
Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics
League of Infamy
2455
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Posted - 2014.03.21 12:41:00 -
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Bad map is bad and should feel bad. I would almost rather go up against an unholy union of Duna and Nyain San at the same time in ambush than play domination on this map.
"The line between disorder and order lies in logistics" -Sun Tzu
Forum Warrior lv.2
Amarr victor!
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Grimmiers
0uter.Heaven
484
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Posted - 2014.03.29 11:13:00 -
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Auris Lionesse wrote:Worst map in the game, whoever greenlit this should be fired for allowing that square ledge and pipeline to be in the final build.
Ladders need to be added on all the pipe supports if they stay and there need to be dual staircases leading to the cetra edge and remove the tower or open it up so teams aren't immune to orbitals.
Or just make he pipes and ledge count as redline so no equipment can be deployed and you die if you remain there.
I feel the same way. Also the awkwardness of trying to climb the hill on the northern side of the objective is also pretty annoying. I miss the natural yet structured design of the old plateaus map where most of the terrain was meant to be walked on with feets. There needs to be some sort of trails or stairs leading to that point.
SoundCloud
Recruiter Link
Pronounced Grim-e-urs
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Monkey MAC
Rough Riders..
2353
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Posted - 2014.04.02 12:05:00 -
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B7
The entire match is just a race to see who can get uplinks on the pipes connected to the lightning tower.
From the concrete around the tower A can be camped such that you can shoot people hacking without being shot in return.
You are then left with 1 team capping all the cru's and having control over the 98% of the map that doesn't count.
Solutions:
Gùå Lower the lightning tower to make the concrete base uncampable.
Gùå Add Rails to the pipe structures such that spawning or ar0ttempting to camp results in the player being stuck.
Gùå Otherwise Add Invisible Slopes to the Pipes such that landing on the results in you sliding off automatically.
Gùå Add Invisible walls to the Lighting Tower Slope approximately halfway up, such that attemping to land here results in the player being thrown off.
Unless your a Computer Scientist don't tell me how Game Mechanics Work.
Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior of the Trees Lvl 2.
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THUNDERGROOVE
Fatal Absolution
Dirt Nap Squad.
637
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Posted - 2014.04.08 20:55:00 -
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The entire existence of this horrible map has actually completely ruined the domination gamemode for me.
Thanks for killing the only thing good left in this game.
Mmmm Scout ak.0
Projects: TDBS | SDETool
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Spartan MK420
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
259
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Posted - 2014.04.17 11:12:00 -
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worst map in existence
Official Unofficial D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N team mascot.
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Spartan MK420
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
259
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Posted - 2014.04.17 11:17:00 -
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and as 1 guy stated in grid f11, if you spawn on the cru, theres a chance that you spawn instantly falling to your death,down some random, dark, bottomless pit.
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Guiltless D667
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Posted - 2014.04.29 08:51:00 -
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The objective is placed to pooly,it either funnels all surrounding troops into the open ground or ontop of the objective it's self,there's no inbetween.Move the objetive somehere else or hollow out the tower it's infront of and place it in there maybe redesign it as a small defensive post,anythig is better than this.
A Strange Game.
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