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DJINN Marauder
Ancient Exiles
1014
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Posted - 2013.09.03 22:40:00 -
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I'm downloading 1.4 right now but I just want to know...
Is the disabled squad sight awesome? Are we finally super ninjas?
Is shotgun hit detection better? What about nova knives?
Does the new aim assist make all the noobs have godlike aiming causing us to insta die to weapons?
Answer if you can. Thanks  |
Crash Monster
Snipers Anonymous
1285
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Posted - 2013.09.03 22:53:00 -
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Don't get any hopes up... and you won't be disappointed. |
DJINN Marauder
Ancient Exiles
1015
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Posted - 2013.09.03 22:54:00 -
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Crash Monster wrote:Don't get any hopes up... and you won't be disappointed.
I take that scouts are worse than in 1.3 then... *sigh* |
FATPrincess - XOXO
Shining Flame
Amarr Empire
517
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Posted - 2013.09.03 22:55:00 -
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BAD!!!!!!!!! Terrible!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
10m radius is not large enough for scouting.
-XOXO |
Knight Soiaire
Better Hide R Die
2202
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Posted - 2013.09.03 22:55:00 -
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DJINN Marauder wrote:I'm downloading 1.4 right now but I just want to know... Is the disabled squad sight awesome? Are we finally super ninjas? Is shotgun hit detection better? What about nova knives? Does the new aim assist make all the noobs have godlike aiming causing us to insta die to weapons? Answer if you can. Thanks
This is one of the very few good changes.
Believe it or not SG hit detection is worse, but its a known issue.
Knives, in my experience are much better.
Yes, I've won but a few 1v1s against Newbs and have escaped with so little health. |
Knight Soiaire
Better Hide R Die
2202
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Posted - 2013.09.03 22:56:00 -
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FATPrincess - XOXO wrote:
10m radius is not large enough for scouting.
-XOXO
^
Pretty much this.
We're in the same position as Dropships, CCP have no idea what role we should fill on the battlefield. |
AAGMUNDR
Reliable Overwatch Inc.
10
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Posted - 2013.09.03 22:57:00 -
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I have great success shotgun scouting. Even with the current hit detection issues. You will now feel 100 times more sneaky. |
DJINN Marauder
Ancient Exiles
1015
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Posted - 2013.09.03 22:57:00 -
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Knight Soiaire wrote:DJINN Marauder wrote:I'm downloading 1.4 right now but I just want to know... Is the disabled squad sight awesome? Are we finally super ninjas? Is shotgun hit detection better? What about nova knives? Does the new aim assist make all the noobs have godlike aiming causing us to insta die to weapons? Answer if you can. Thanks This is one of the very few good changes. Believe it or not SG hit detection is worse, but its a known issue. Knives, in my experience are much better. Yes, I've won but a few 1v1s against Newbs and have escaped with so little health.
Thanks,
But.. How does one get worse shotgun hit detection than 1.3? Hell.. I thought it was so bad that CCP couldn't get it worse..lol |
General John Ripper
The Generals
EoN.
2202
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Posted - 2013.09.03 22:57:00 -
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if someone sees you, you will die almost instantly. Complex damage mods are win now since aim assist makes all the **** players better. And the players who were actually good before are the same because they already knew how to aim.
From what I have heard, shot gunning is worse than before.
Its hard to get some good testing done when the match making is this bad. |
Knight Soiaire
Better Hide R Die
2202
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Posted - 2013.09.03 22:59:00 -
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DJINN Marauder wrote:Knight Soiaire wrote:DJINN Marauder wrote:I'm downloading 1.4 right now but I just want to know... Is the disabled squad sight awesome? Are we finally super ninjas? Is shotgun hit detection better? What about nova knives? Does the new aim assist make all the noobs have godlike aiming causing us to insta die to weapons? Answer if you can. Thanks This is one of the very few good changes. Believe it or not SG hit detection is worse, but its a known issue. Knives, in my experience are much better. Yes, I've won but a few 1v1s against Newbs and have escaped with so little health. Thanks, But.. How does one get worse shotgun hit detection than 1.3? Hell.. I thought it was so bad that CCP couldn't get it worse..lol
I know, I wasn't expecting them to make it perfect, but I never expected them to make it worse.
But I guess CCP will find a way, it almost seems intentional, Shotguns are getting worse with every patch.
*Puts on tinfoil hat* |
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Lucifalic
Baked n Loaded
72
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Posted - 2013.09.03 23:01:00 -
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Squad sight disabled should be good for us but all I can get into is ambush :(
Shotgun is not fixed. In fact it's worse. Ar noobs now reign even more supreme and we dissipate in less then a second. Aiming was fixed but our hitboxes are just as large. So now instead of missing 1 out of 4 bullets it's more like 1 outta 10 |
OZAROW
WarRavens
League of Infamy
469
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Posted - 2013.09.03 23:01:00 -
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Friggen horrible for me so far, spent almost 20 minutes for the match maker between 2 matches, non are the type I chose, cant even get close enough to even try my shotgun, an once a guy sees you the Ar is so powerful your dead before you can friggen react!
I'm choked personally I even switch to a gallente scout an stacked enhanced feroscales an complex shield for almost 500 HP I died as soon as I got shot at , friggen brutal |
DISGRUNTLEDev
Ancient Exiles
63
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Posted - 2013.09.03 23:01:00 -
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Marauder, its not looking good for scouts right now. |
Sgt Kirk
SyNergy Gaming
EoN.
1431
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Posted - 2013.09.03 23:01:00 -
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Depends, functionally as in defense or supportive as in purpose?
Because my gallente Scout survives a lot more because of the buff although it would be nice if scouts actually had roles in this game.
P.S. I wouldn't count people that use scouts as CQC frontline warriors as a construct of your opinions on the scout.
Unless you use them for that purpose of course. |
Cyrius Li-Moody
The New Age Outlaws
895
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Posted - 2013.09.03 23:04:00 -
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From the match I played w my SG I got face humped by everything. Resorted to explosives for the rest of the match. |
Disturbingly Bored
The Strontium Asylum
532
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Posted - 2013.09.03 23:05:00 -
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General John Ripper wrote:Complex damage mods are win now since aim assist makes all the **** players better.
That's funny.
Because if two players sit toe to one, one has all complex damage mods and the other complex shield extenders, the shield guy is just mathematically going to win every time.
And because with strong aim assist, you may as well stand still and trade shots. Same result as dodging. |
DJINN leukoplast
Hellstorm Inc
League of Infamy
1191
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Posted - 2013.09.03 23:13:00 -
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From the limited time I have played, the lack of team intel really changes the way the game feels. Once again players should be able to venture out from the "blob" of blues and sneak up and/or take on other solo players. I really missed these days, and it seems like it's back again. No longer can one player on the enemy team light you up for the rest of them to see. And let me tell you, it keeps you on your feet not knowing if an enemy is right next to you or somewhere nearby.
Heck, the last match I played had a stealth guy speed-running around with a shotty and remotes, and even when he was right next to me getting shot at by a heavy, I had no idea he was there as he didn't pop-up on radar. I turn around and oh daym... there's a dead enemy at the feet of that heavy.
I think you will enjoy it Mar, especially being a scout shotty player. I have a feeling most of my deaths in 1.4 will be from players who sneak up behind me, or outsmart me even if I think I know where they are. And I have a feeling stealth shotty players with lots of speed are going to be one of the most hated classes in 1.4. 
Oh and the active scanner is going to be the new gold-mine equipment for sure, which is nice as it will be something useful now. |
HowDidThatTaste
Ancient Exiles
3575
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Posted - 2013.09.03 23:17:00 -
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Im still downloading can you still see every drop uplink that is dropped in the game or have they become stealthed as well? |
Lightning Bolt2
Binary Mercs
Abandon PlayGrounds
144
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Posted - 2013.09.03 23:18:00 -
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DJINN Marauder wrote:I'm downloading 1.4 right now but I just want to know... Is the disabled squad sight awesome? Are we finally super ninjas? Is shotgun hit detection better? What about nova knives? Does the new aim assist make all the noobs have godlike aiming causing us to insta die to weapons? Answer if you can. Thanks
aimbot ruined scouts, and hit detection is worse... now let me cry in my corner now  . |
Marston VC
SVER True Blood
Public Disorder.
941
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Posted - 2013.09.03 23:24:00 -
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DJINN Marauder wrote:I'm downloading 1.4 right now but I just want to know... Is the disabled squad sight awesome? Are we finally super ninjas? Is shotgun hit detection better? What about nova knives? Does the new aim assist make all the noobs have godlike aiming causing us to insta die to weapons? Answer if you can. Thanks
basically, there near invisible so long as nobody is looking. Its quite a bit easier to sneak up undetected, ive only played a couple hours and I did in fact get nova knifed. so yeah.... there still crap, but its easier to be sneaky if you speck into all of that nonsense. |
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Cody Sietz
Bullet Cluster
868
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Posted - 2013.09.03 23:38:00 -
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Insta death happens far more often, but sneaking is wayyy easier(which is good, cause you really have to relay on it) |
DJINN Marauder
Ancient Exiles
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Posted - 2013.09.03 23:40:00 -
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So I played with shotgun. My 1st match with it 18-1
Ended up 21- 1 cuz I got 3 kills with ar at the end.
I've noticed to hit someone with the shotgun u gotta aim behind them. It's weird. But I am loving the armor buff. My gall scout is strong now :D |
Llast 326
An Arkhos
4
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Posted - 2013.09.03 23:41:00 -
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HowDidThatTaste wrote:Im still downloading can you still see every drop uplink that is dropped in the game or have they become stealthed as well?
+1 excellent question |
DISGRUNTLEDev
Ancient Exiles
64
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Posted - 2013.09.03 23:51:00 -
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Thanks for the good knife fights Llast! It's probably going to make me choose knives over shottys this build. |
Krom Ganesh
Holdfast Syndicate
Amarr Empire
229
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Posted - 2013.09.04 00:04:00 -
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So far my scout is playing very well for me. Reduced strafing speed + aim assist mean I can make nearly all my shots with the SCR. Having an Active scanner makes a hell of a difference though. |
Abby Invo
DUST University
Ivy League
38
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Posted - 2013.09.04 00:06:00 -
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DJINN Marauder wrote:I'm downloading 1.4 right now but I just want to know... Is the disabled squad sight awesome? Are we finally super ninjas? Is shotgun hit detection better? What about nova knives? Does the new aim assist make all the noobs have godlike aiming causing us to insta die to weapons? Answer if you can. Thanks
You're a super ninja, but you're more fragile than ever. |
Godin Thekiller
Hellstorm Inc
League of Infamy
459
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Posted - 2013.09.04 00:14:00 -
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DJINN Marauder wrote:Knight Soiaire wrote:DJINN Marauder wrote:I'm downloading 1.4 right now but I just want to know... Is the disabled squad sight awesome? Are we finally super ninjas? Is shotgun hit detection better? What about nova knives? Does the new aim assist make all the noobs have godlike aiming causing us to insta die to weapons? Answer if you can. Thanks This is one of the very few good changes. Believe it or not SG hit detection is worse, but its a known issue. Knives, in my experience are much better. Yes, I've won but a few 1v1s against Newbs and have escaped with so little health. Thanks, But.. How does one get worse shotgun hit detection than 1.3? Hell.. I thought it was so bad that CCP couldn't get it worse..lol
It used to be about half the shots would connect. Now it's only 1 or 2. |
Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
1364
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Posted - 2013.09.04 00:31:00 -
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I used to zig-zag up to scared cranberries in my speed fit light frame. Only those with some real talent could take off what little health I had before I got into optimum range. Now I have nerfed strafe speed, and aiming for dummies has been activated.
I would have thought that the removal of shared Tacnet on the HUD would have made stealth easier, and it does, but this is dwarfed by the constant possibility that you'll walk around the corner and into the wrong end of the main gunfight.
Scouts rely the most upon situational awareness, which has been nerfed. Scouts have to assess the entire field and judge how to get to the right place at the right time. Now, not only is the right place and time a complete mystery, but the relative safety of each path to it is also unknown.
I think the only reason I partly welcome this change, is because I only use my light frame for ambushes, whereas I have a profile dampened, speed hack logi for PC. A fitting that will benefit greatly from the upcoming reliance on Active Scanners.
So overall, scouts & light frames particularly, have been royally screwed. |
DISGRUNTLEDev
Ancient Exiles
65
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Posted - 2013.09.04 00:40:00 -
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I've got a question. Do you guys think CCP is intentionally making the logi the king of this game? The only thing a logi can't do better than other suits is fit a heavy weapon. They have more health and carry more ammo than assaults, and can hide, move faster, and hack faster than a scout.
Is it because a large portion of the (tiny) player base is speced into so kind of logi? Trying to make the most people happy? |
Krom Ganesh
Holdfast Syndicate
Amarr Empire
229
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Posted - 2013.09.04 00:45:00 -
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DISGRUNTLEDev wrote:I've got a question. Do you guys think CCP is intentionally making the logi the king of this game? The only thing a logi can't do better than other suits is fit a heavy weapon. They have more health and carry more ammo than assaults, and can hide, move faster, and hack faster than a scout.
Is it because a large portion of the (tiny) player base is speced into so kind of logi? Trying to make the most people happy?
I think the problem is that they have an idea of what roles they want classes to play but haven't put enough thought in how to achieve that while maintaining a balance nor in how other changes will affect each of the classes. |
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Shotty GoBang
Intara Direct Action
Caldari State
834
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Posted - 2013.09.04 02:56:00 -
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DJINN Marauder wrote:
#1) Is the disabled squad sight awesome?
#2) Are we finally super ninjas?
#3) Is shotgun hit detection better?
#4) What about nova knives?
#5)Does the new aim assist make all the noobs have godlike aiming causing us to insta die to weapons?
Hi Marauder! In response to your 5-point question :p
#1) In addition to stunning new visuals and gorgeous new maps, yes this is an awesome change.
#2) Nope.
#3) Nope.
#4) Nope.
#5) Yes.
I suspect we Scouts are worse off now than in 1.4.
Fingers crossed on a shotgun hotfix. It would help.
- Shotty |
Bojo The Mighty
Zanzibar Concept
1659
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Posted - 2013.09.04 03:58:00 -
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damn, downloading now....maybe the aiming rework will aid my breach mass driver abilities.... |
Shotty GoBang
Intara Direct Action
Caldari State
844
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Posted - 2013.09.04 06:48:00 -
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Bojo The Mighty wrote:damn, downloading now....maybe the aiming rework will aid my breach mass driver abilities....
Didn't see too many MDs today, Bojo.
Not sure what to attribute that to.
MD users may have switched it out for the aim-assisted AR. |
Blind Nojoy
G I A N T
EoN.
43
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Posted - 2013.09.04 06:50:00 -
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I skilled into them today, along with active scanners and profile dampening.
The scanner is pretty money, you will need one in every organized squad. |
Blind Nojoy
G I A N T
EoN.
43
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Posted - 2013.09.04 06:53:00 -
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Shotty GoBang wrote:Bojo The Mighty wrote:damn, downloading now....maybe the aiming rework will aid my breach mass driver abilities.... Didn't see too many MDs today, Bojo. Not sure what to attribute that to. MD users may have switched it out for the aim-assisted AR.
This. Or any other hitscan weapon. Saw a few viziams and some ascr's. |
Llast 326
An Arkhos
7
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Posted - 2013.09.04 15:08:00 -
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DISGRUNTLEDev wrote:Thanks for the good knife fights Llast! It's probably going to make me choose knives over shottys this build.
I enjoyed them even though you got the drop on me most of the time always up for another, though i hope we end up on the same team sometimes
And I can confirm drop uplinks are now stealthed, so happy about this. |
Lightning Bolt2
Binary Mercs
Abandon PlayGrounds
148
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Posted - 2013.09.04 15:12:00 -
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Shotty GoBang wrote:Bojo The Mighty wrote:damn, downloading now....maybe the aiming rework will aid my breach mass driver abilities.... Didn't see too many MDs today, Bojo. Not sure what to attribute that to. MD users may have switched it out for the aimbot AR.
FTFY |
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