DUST Search - Is Uprising 1.4 really that bad?

Rudy Vandersario wrote:

Knight Soiaire wrote:

Rudy Vandersario wrote:

I think there's a lot of exaggeration about the problems with 1.4, there's a lot of blind panic in the air but it's really not that bad at all. There's some pretty sweet new maps to explore, the matchmaking isn't right just yet but it will be better when everyone's got the update downloaded.

Basically, it's nowhere near as bad as the hundreds of panic / rage threads would have you believe.

I'm not over-exaggerating, trust me.

Use the Shotgun, try kill some people, I emptied 7 Shots into the back of an Amarr Medium, only to have him lose his shields. I had to finish him off with my SMG.

Then tried going into 1v1s with MLT suits, was killed, almost everytime, 1v1s now come down to who has the highest HP/DPS, not who can strafe better, or who has better aim, its all because of that stupid aim assist. (All MLT Suits have more HP than my 203 Shield Scout)

Despite all that, new maps are cool, end game screen is much cleaner, and Knives are much better.

But the negatives outweigh the positives on this one.

I'm undecided about the effect of the aim assist, didn't feel all that different to me but I only played a few games because I've already capped out. I believe you about the shotgun I wouldn't know as I've never used one on Dust.

It just seems typical of the community to lose its **** over a free patch for a free game, which has been brought out by hardworking people who just want to please the community and make the game better.

Know what I mean?

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crispipin The Vanguardians 13	Posted - 2013.09.03 22:25:00 - [1] - Quote I haven't tried it out. I plan to on Thursday or so. If its bad why is it bad? Are there any good things that came besides the new map?
Musta Tornius Cannonfodder PMC 559	Posted - 2013.09.03 22:28:00 - [2] - Quote Lots of new good interesting things. It's just that the messed up matchmaking is making everyone angry and frustrated so no one is taking any notice of the improvements which are quite a few!
calisk galern BurgezzE.T.F 836	Posted - 2013.09.03 22:29:00 - [3] - Quote crispipin wrote: I haven't tried it out. I plan to on Thursday or so. If its bad why is it bad? Are there any good things that came besides the new map? the only way to play is factional warfare and PC battles. squads barely work. devs said it would be fixed thursday or friday so expect monday, but squads not for a week so 1.5. the games I did play felt great, if not for the fact that I was playing game modes I didn't want to play, with team sizes of 16 on 4
Knight Soiaire Better Hide R Die 2199	Posted - 2013.09.03 22:30:00 - [4] - Quote For my Shotgunning Scout that not only dies to sneezes, but now also the breath of an Assault players, yes. Oh, and forget about killing with the SG, you might as well hug them to death. Only good thing for Scouts is the disabled squad sight, Knives for me anyway, are much better. But other than that, we're easier to hit, our scanner, speed and stamina are still **** as hell, and of course, the new Aim Assist makes it almost impossible to beat a MLT in a 1v1 in a Scout suit (AR Vs AR), no matter how much you push your little legs to strafe.
Lurchasaurus SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 1387	Posted - 2013.09.03 22:30:00 - [5] - Quote crispipin wrote: I haven't tried it out. I plan to on Thursday or so. If its bad why is it bad? Are there any good things that came besides the new map? read the known issues sticky you know, thats why its there......at the top of your screen.......with a dev tag.....
marksmn Gespenster Kompanie Villore Accords 22	Posted - 2013.09.03 22:30:00 - [6] - Quote You will see when you try to geT into a game honestly I have turnt it off because I can't be bothers with it at the moment witch pissis me off because I now have to spend quality time with the missis
Torr Wrath Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 958	Posted - 2013.09.03 22:31:00 - [7] - Quote Some things are good and interesting and probably far more awesome then they are getting credit for. That said there are quite a few things that effect the CORE of the game that are basically broken, and you cant see the good things through the broken crap most of the time.
Kensa Marine The Guardians 910 0	Posted - 2013.09.03 22:32:00 - [8] - Quote crispipin wrote: I haven't tried it out. I plan to on Thursday or so. If its bad why is it bad? Are there any good things that came besides the new map? Seriously?? Well if you call not being able to play at all because the game keeps kicking me out of battle finder, not bad, ok then its not bad. I would however like to play the game to decide if the patch is good or not. CCP- any idea when that might be possible???????? I downloaded the update hours ago, and still not one battle has been joined, not that I would be able to pick what type of battle I would like to join anyhow. Unreal........
Parson Atreides Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 631	Posted - 2013.09.03 22:34:00 - [9] - Quote People are freaking out over stuff that's obviously going to be fixed really soon because it's so game-breaking, like the broken matchmaking. I don't like judging patches based on their bugs--it feels inaccurate and spiteful. The aim assist may be a little too good, but it isn't aimbot like the over-exaggerating QQers would have you believe. The new maps are really fun and a lot of annoying stuff (like getting run over by a LAV going 3 miles per hour) have been fixed. It's a really good patch overall.
Monkey MAC killer taxi company General Tso's Alliance 83	Posted - 2013.09.03 22:37:00 - [10] - Quote crispipin wrote: I haven't tried it out. I plan to on Thursday or so. If its bad why is it bad? Are there any good things that came besides the new map? The game look awsome Aim assist apparently is ok Hit detection for high ROF weapons are fixed Hit detection for boltshots is a bit dodgy Dont ask tankers about tanks, dropships Killer taxi-ing still happens but only across large flat terrain Apparently matchmaking is a bit fishy, however my experience was positive GUI improvements are awsome Map apparently is all kinds of awsome If this continues with the upcoming patches expect a game to compete with cod, bf3 etc. All in all looking relatively positive especially considering a patch this size!!

Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 3540	Posted - 2013.09.03 22:38:00 - [11] - Quote Almost every new patch for DUST has been "really that bad" on day 1. Wait for them to clean up some of the bigger missteps and see what happens. Although it is kind of bad to have about a week of patching after every update before 3 weeks of a solid game, then repeat the cycle.
Nguruthos IX Vagina Bombers 1348	Posted - 2013.09.03 22:39:00 - [12] - Quote for dropships this is one of the worst patches ever Multiple changes, all game breaking.
Rudy Vandersario The Nimbor Corporation 26	Posted - 2013.09.03 22:40:00 - [13] - Quote I think there's a lot of exaggeration about the problems with 1.4, there's a lot of blind panic in the air but it's really not that bad at all. There's some pretty sweet new maps to explore, the matchmaking isn't right just yet but it will be better when everyone's got the update downloaded. Basically, it's nowhere near as bad as the hundreds of panic / rage threads would have you believe.
Ydubbs81 RND Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 1799	Posted - 2013.09.03 22:43:00 - [14] - Quote This patch is awesome....guys are just crybabies. There is a big bug or glitch going on with the matchmaking and squads....but other than that, the maps are fine and hit detection works. Small additions noted as well
Knight Soiaire Better Hide R Die 2199	Posted - 2013.09.03 22:44:00 - [15] - Quote Rudy Vandersario wrote: I think there's a lot of exaggeration about the problems with 1.4, there's a lot of blind panic in the air but it's really not that bad at all. There's some pretty sweet new maps to explore, the matchmaking isn't right just yet but it will be better when everyone's got the update downloaded. Basically, it's nowhere near as bad as the hundreds of panic / rage threads would have you believe. I'm not over-exaggerating, trust me. Use the Shotgun, try kill some people, I emptied 7 Shots into the back of an Amarr Medium, only to have him lose his shields. I had to finish him off with my SMG. Then tried going into 1v1s with MLT suits, was killed, almost everytime, 1v1s now come down to who has the highest HP/DPS, not who can strafe better, or who has better aim, its all because of that stupid aim assist. (All MLT Suits have more HP than my 203 Shield Scout) Despite all that, new maps are cool, end game screen is much cleaner, and Knives are much better. But the negatives outweigh the positives on this one.
Ydubbs81 RND Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 1799	Posted - 2013.09.03 22:45:00 - [16] - Quote Kensa Marine wrote: crispipin wrote: I haven't tried it out. I plan to on Thursday or so. If its bad why is it bad? Are there any good things that came besides the new map? Seriously?? Well if you call not being able to play at all because the game keeps kicking me out of battle finder, not bad, ok then its not bad. I would however like to play the game to decide if the patch is good or not. CCP- any idea when that might be possible???????? I downloaded the update hours ago, and still not one battle has been joined, not that I would be able to pick what type of battle I would like to join anyhow. Unreal........ Pull your skirt down
General Regret PSU GHOST SYNDICATE DARKSTAR ARMY 19	Posted - 2013.09.03 22:45:00 - [17] - Quote Its a joke of an update a mockery of the player base. Op aim assist rewards no skill, shoddy matchmaking times which for me kills the game for the time being A terrible null cannon position where it hits the pipe among other things! LOL. Its a real shame for DUST, it started to get out of wearing velcro shoe straps. I think CCP need to give it lotsss of TLC and pick it back up real quick. The playerbase is dwindling as it is. Offering my two cents x
Vin Vicious Capital Acquisitions LLC Public Disorder. 316	Posted - 2013.09.03 22:53:00 - [18] - Quote crispipin wrote: I haven't tried it out. I plan to on Thursday or so. If its bad why is it bad? Are there any good things that came besides the new map? Pros -Maps are amazing -Squad leader indicator is cool -Scanners now are useful -Game looks visually better -the equipment wheel is noticeable easier to use Cons -Can't get a match with more than 7people on both sides, correction, 25% of the time three squads were put on one side, while the other side had no one -depending on your input device you'll love or hate the new aiming system, DS3 players are happy because now they can finally "aim" because of the aimbot, I mean aim assist.. While Kb&m players, well, vehicles are unuseble, the "vehicle vision" is superrrrr jerky, don't even bother trying to nav a dropship, you'll crash on lift off. 100% serious, go grab a mouse and kb and if you can make it across a map without crashing into the ground, props. - Infantry aiming is super sensitive, I have my setting at 40 and I find myself shooting next to people, turning it down to 30 makes it impossible to track players ads and hip, and doing a 180 degree turn forces me to make three FULL "swipes" with the mouse -shotgun hit detection -the "battle finder glitch" aka stuck in limbo
Rudy Vandersario The Nimbor Corporation 26	Posted - 2013.09.03 22:54:00 - [19] - Quote Knight Soiaire wrote: Rudy Vandersario wrote: I think there's a lot of exaggeration about the problems with 1.4, there's a lot of blind panic in the air but it's really not that bad at all. There's some pretty sweet new maps to explore, the matchmaking isn't right just yet but it will be better when everyone's got the update downloaded. Basically, it's nowhere near as bad as the hundreds of panic / rage threads would have you believe. I'm not over-exaggerating, trust me. Use the Shotgun, try kill some people, I emptied 7 Shots into the back of an Amarr Medium, only to have him lose his shields. I had to finish him off with my SMG. Then tried going into 1v1s with MLT suits, was killed, almost everytime, 1v1s now come down to who has the highest HP/DPS, not who can strafe better, or who has better aim, its all because of that stupid aim assist. (All MLT Suits have more HP than my 203 Shield Scout) Despite all that, new maps are cool, end game screen is much cleaner, and Knives are much better. But the negatives outweigh the positives on this one. I'm undecided about the effect of the aim assist, didn't feel all that different to me but I only played a few games because I've already capped out. I believe you about the shotgun I wouldn't know as I've never used one on Dust. It just seems typical of the community to lose its **** over a free patch for a free game, which has been brought out by hardworking people who just want to please the community and make the game better. Know what I mean?
Knight Soiaire Better Hide R Die 2202	Posted - 2013.09.03 23:03:00 - [20] - Quote Rudy Vandersario wrote: Knight Soiaire wrote: Rudy Vandersario wrote: I think there's a lot of exaggeration about the problems with 1.4, there's a lot of blind panic in the air but it's really not that bad at all. There's some pretty sweet new maps to explore, the matchmaking isn't right just yet but it will be better when everyone's got the update downloaded. Basically, it's nowhere near as bad as the hundreds of panic / rage threads would have you believe. I'm not over-exaggerating, trust me. Use the Shotgun, try kill some people, I emptied 7 Shots into the back of an Amarr Medium, only to have him lose his shields. I had to finish him off with my SMG. Then tried going into 1v1s with MLT suits, was killed, almost everytime, 1v1s now come down to who has the highest HP/DPS, not who can strafe better, or who has better aim, its all because of that stupid aim assist. (All MLT Suits have more HP than my 203 Shield Scout) Despite all that, new maps are cool, end game screen is much cleaner, and Knives are much better. But the negatives outweigh the positives on this one. I'm undecided about the effect of the aim assist, didn't feel all that different to me but I only played a few games because I've already capped out. I believe you about the shotgun I wouldn't know as I've never used one on Dust. It just seems typical of the community to lose its **** over a free patch for a free game, which has been brought out by hardworking people who just want to please the community and make the game better. Know what I mean? I just hope the Shotgun gets fixed soon, I hope they dont end up like Dropship WP Gains (Waiting 6-8 months, still nothing) If they fix Shotguns, I'll be happy to wait for my Scout buff, but until then, I can hardly play the game how I want to without getting frustrated.

Kensa Marine The Guardians 910 0	Posted - 2013.09.03 23:08:00 - [21] - Quote Monkey MAC wrote: crispipin wrote: I haven't tried it out. I plan to on Thursday or so. If its bad why is it bad? Are there any good things that came besides the new map? The game look awsome Aim assist apparently is ok Hit detection for high ROF weapons are fixed Hit detection for boltshots is a bit dodgy Dont ask tankers about tanks, dropships Killer taxi-ing still happens but only across large flat terrain Apparently matchmaking is a bit fishy, however my experience was positive GUI improvements are awsome Map apparently is all kinds of awsome If this continues with the upcoming patches expect a game to compete with cod, bf3 etc. All in all looking relatively positive especially considering a patch this size!! See, I would love to be able to give it a solid review and provide some input here, but there is just one problem....................... I cant even get into the game! 4 hours and not one battle joined, seriously I know there are bugs within patches, but this is a complete F-up!
Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 3541	Posted - 2013.09.03 23:23:00 - [22] - Quote Kensa Marine wrote: 4 hours and not one battle joined, seriously I know there are bugs within patches, but this is a complete F-up! Everyone who's had this problem that I know of has fixed it by logging out and back in, or by quitting the game and restarting.


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