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Spkr4theDead
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Posted - 2013.09.03 11:26:00 -
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We will find ways to cope with what is basically another nerf to vehicles. We coped with the PG skill nerf, and we'll cope with alpha damage from one person in 4 seconds. We will continue to find ways to make tanking work, nowadays if only to make all the rest of you angry that we still can't be instapopped.
We will not falter. We will not give up. We will not give in to temptation and be like everyone else, looking for the next flavor of the month to keep us happy, then complaining that it gets nerfed because everybody abuses it and CCP took away our shiny new toy.
Fellow Operators, delete your armor fits. You won't be needing them now. It's shield from now on, or get popped by 2 sets of MLT swarms. When I log in, all my many Madrugar and one Limbus fits will be deleted, and I'll make up Gunnlogi railgun fits.
You will want us to get nerfed again, because this will not defeat us. That is a promise. |
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pegasis prime
BIG BAD W0LVES
759
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Posted - 2013.09.03 11:27:00 -
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As much as im bricking it regarding the swarm buff it wont stop me holding the font in my gunlogi. Come at me . |
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Sgt Kirk
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
1416
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Posted - 2013.09.03 11:30:00 -
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My way of coping was to just delete all my vehicle fittings until 1.5.
There's no way I'm wasting ISK just to get blown up in two seconds by a swarm launcher. |
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noobsniper the 2nd
The Corporate Raiders
44
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Posted - 2013.09.03 11:37:00 -
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trolo shield tank is unstoppable muhahaha come at me swarms i got my 2 shield hardeners waiting |
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Spkr4theDead
International-Fleet
565
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Posted - 2013.09.03 11:39:00 -
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noobsniper the 2nd wrote:trolo shield tank is unstoppable muhahaha come at me swarms i got my 2 shield hardeners waiting You use shield hardeners lol. |
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Takahiro Kashuken
Red Star. EoN.
1181
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Posted - 2013.09.03 11:47:00 -
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I will delete everything also, keep a few standard fits and maybe throw 20mil into today testing out tanks against the super OP swarms
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Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
3505
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Posted - 2013.09.03 11:51:00 -
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I look forward to the moment where people realise this is only a burst damage buff, and a dps nerf.
If you're not killed by 3 Swarm volleys, you're in a better spot than you were before the "buff". |
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Takahiro Kashuken
Red Star. EoN.
1181
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Posted - 2013.09.03 11:54:00 -
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Garrett Blacknova wrote:I look forward to the moment where people realise this is only a burst damage buff, and a dps nerf.
If you're not killed by 3 Swarm volleys, you're in a better spot than you were before the "buff".
I doubt it when at proto level each volley is 1 sec apart so 3secs in 9+ plus to armor and the reload skill is cheap in SP to get to 5
Some did the maths and compared to the 1.3 swarms its quicker to fire 3 and reload and fire 3 more than it was with the 5clip |
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Spkr4theDead
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Posted - 2013.09.03 11:56:00 -
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Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Garrett Blacknova wrote:I look forward to the moment where people realise this is only a burst damage buff, and a dps nerf.
If you're not killed by 3 Swarm volleys, you're in a better spot than you were before the "buff". I doubt it when at proto level each volley is 1 sec apart so 3secs in 9+ plus to armor and the reload skill is cheap in SP to get to 5 Some did the maths and compared to the 1.3 swarms its quicker to fire 3 and reload and fire 3 more than it was with the 5clip When Dust is back online, I'll be on it, crying as I fire MLT swarms insanely fast at unhacked installations. Are you going to be on? |
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DJINN leukoplast
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
1176
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Posted - 2013.09.03 11:57:00 -
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Tanks have always been OP, even when you complain about being UP, you are still ridiculously OP.
World of Tanks is that way ---------> |
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Jack McReady
DUST University Ivy League
407
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Posted - 2013.09.03 11:57:00 -
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Spkr4theDead wrote:2 sets of MLT swarms stopped reading here and proof that this guy is just a poor scrub. pre 1.4 properly fit armor tank with high SP can withstand 10+ volleys from militia swarms without exploding. that is atleast 30 seconds of continous shooting and reloading... |
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Spkr4theDead
International-Fleet
566
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Posted - 2013.09.03 11:58:00 -
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DJINN leukoplast wrote:Tanks have always been OP, even when you complain about being UP, you are still ridiculously OP.
World of Tanks is that way ---------> Call of Duty is that way <------------ |
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Spkr4theDead
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Posted - 2013.09.03 11:59:00 -
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Jack McReady wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote:2 sets of MLT swarms stopped reading here and proof that this guy is just a poor scrub. pre 1.4 properly fit armor tank with high SP can withstand 10+ volleys from militia swarms without exploding. that is atleast 30 seconds of continous shooting and reloading... Oh boy, excuse me for being terrible at math and missing that one post made ages ago about the combined strength of plate, repper and hardeners. |
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Jack McReady
DUST University Ivy League
407
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Posted - 2013.09.03 12:01:00 -
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Spkr4theDead wrote:DJINN leukoplast wrote:Tanks have always been OP, even when you complain about being UP, you are still ridiculously OP.
World of Tanks is that way ---------> Call of Duty is that way <------------ and hello kitty online is over here ==========> |
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calisk galern
BurgezzE.T.F
826
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Posted - 2013.09.03 12:13:00 -
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygQvB6OjHOU |
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Takahiro Kashuken
Red Star. EoN.
1181
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Posted - 2013.09.03 12:19:00 -
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Spkr4theDead wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Garrett Blacknova wrote:I look forward to the moment where people realise this is only a burst damage buff, and a dps nerf.
If you're not killed by 3 Swarm volleys, you're in a better spot than you were before the "buff". I doubt it when at proto level each volley is 1 sec apart so 3secs in 9+ plus to armor and the reload skill is cheap in SP to get to 5 Some did the maths and compared to the 1.3 swarms its quicker to fire 3 and reload and fire 3 more than it was with the 5clip When Dust is back online, I'll be on it, crying as I fire MLT swarms insanely fast at unhacked installations. Are you going to be on?
Yea probs
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Takahiro Kashuken
Red Star. EoN.
1181
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Posted - 2013.09.03 12:20:00 -
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DJINN leukoplast wrote:Tanks have always been OP, even when you complain about being UP, you are still ridiculously OP.
World of Tanks is that way --------->
Yea WoT
Beast game, Russian bias but its russian game
TOG II best tank |
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Takahiro Kashuken
Red Star. EoN.
1181
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Posted - 2013.09.03 12:22:00 -
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Jack McReady wrote:yes please, go for shield tanks, I will throw my proto flux into your face and laugh hard when my follow up swarms still kill you. Spkr4theDead wrote:2 sets of MLT swarms stopped reading here and proof that this guy is just a poor scrub. pre 1.4 properly fit armor tank with high SP can withstand 10+ volleys from militia swarms without exploding. that is atleast 30 seconds of continous shooting and reloading... with the buff from 1.4 it still takes ~25 seconds with a mlt swarm.
Proto flux are not like crutch nades tho so you have to wait for them to go off and the tank has to be still
Barely anyone used mlt swarms anymore, its all adv/proto i see now |
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Sgt Buttscratch
G I A N T EoN.
710
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Posted - 2013.09.03 12:33:00 -
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I know how this month is gunna go, I've been practicing.
Tanking in 1.4 |
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Dust Project 514
Pistol King
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Posted - 2013.09.03 12:36:00 -
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Yeah. Read the notes. Tankers are screwed. |
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calisk galern
BurgezzE.T.F
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Posted - 2013.09.03 12:38:00 -
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xupPXfkNfSo
tankers new modo |
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Jack McReady
DUST University Ivy League
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Posted - 2013.09.03 12:42:00 -
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Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Jack McReady wrote:yes please, go for shield tanks, I will throw my proto flux into your face and laugh hard when my follow up swarms still kill you. Spkr4theDead wrote:2 sets of MLT swarms stopped reading here and proof that this guy is just a poor scrub. pre 1.4 properly fit armor tank with high SP can withstand 10+ volleys from militia swarms without exploding. that is atleast 30 seconds of continous shooting and reloading... with the buff from 1.4 it still takes ~25 seconds with a mlt swarm. Proto flux are not like crutch nades tho so you have to wait for them to go off and the tank has to be still Barely anyone used mlt swarms anymore, its all adv/proto i see now I will have plenty of time to throw 3 fluxes, lock on and fire since all of the whiners are usually camping and standing still for ages with their "i am invincible" tunnelvision mode. they will just die as before |
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Takahiro Kashuken
Red Star. EoN.
1182
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Posted - 2013.09.03 12:48:00 -
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calisk galern wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xupPXfkNfSo
tankers new modo
Win vid
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Beren Hurin
The Vanguardians
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Posted - 2013.09.03 12:50:00 -
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Jury is still out on whether it has gotten worse. AV folks will have to actively be looking for vehicles with the Tacnet changes, which means they have to be infantry reactive rather than vehicle reactive. Which IMO makes them mroe vulnerable. |
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Cosgar
ParagonX
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Posted - 2013.09.03 12:56:00 -
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Wasn't the swarm launcher "buff" actually a bug fix? |
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Spkr4theDead
International-Fleet
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Posted - 2013.09.03 12:56:00 -
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Jack McReady wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Jack McReady wrote:yes please, go for shield tanks, I will throw my proto flux into your face and laugh hard when my follow up swarms still kill you. Spkr4theDead wrote:2 sets of MLT swarms stopped reading here and proof that this guy is just a poor scrub. pre 1.4 properly fit armor tank with high SP can withstand 10+ volleys from militia swarms without exploding. that is atleast 30 seconds of continous shooting and reloading... with the buff from 1.4 it still takes ~25 seconds with a mlt swarm. Proto flux are not like crutch nades tho so you have to wait for them to go off and the tank has to be still Barely anyone used mlt swarms anymore, its all adv/proto i see now I will have plenty of time to throw 3 fluxes, lock on and fire since all of the whiners are usually camping and standing still for ages with their "i am invincible" tunnelvision mode. they will just die as before Tell me more how you're so good at throwing crutch AV grenades at MLT tanks like someone else that posted a video about it. |
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Cody Sietz
Bullet Cluster
865
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Posted - 2013.09.03 13:00:00 -
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Jack McReady wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote:DJINN leukoplast wrote:Tanks have always been OP, even when you complain about being UP, you are still ridiculously OP.
World of Tanks is that way ---------> Call of Duty is that way <------------ and hello kitty online is over here ==========> THE SERVERS ARE BACK UP!?
*RUNS TO THE RIGHT* |
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Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
3505
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Posted - 2013.09.03 13:13:00 -
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I was a beta tester for HKO.
It was pretty good. Shame they still won't release it in my region so I can play again... |
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Mortedeamor
The Black Masquerade
183
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Posted - 2013.09.03 13:22:00 -
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after witnessing a side rocket from my swarm launchers insta pop a madrugar post 1.4 patch i have decided that i will be putting my av suits aside till 1.5 (the only exception being if a vehicle user attacks me personally in anyway). this is disgusting ccp :( |
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