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SILVERBACK 02
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
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Posted - 2013.09.02 04:01:00 -
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when does CCP plan on putting in the dual weild feature for side arms etc..? and dual wield light weapons for heavys? |
castba
Penguin's March
93
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Posted - 2013.09.02 04:06:00 -
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Interesting though - heavy dual wielding AR and aSCR... Or dual MD's. |
Godin Thekiller
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
434
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Posted - 2013.09.02 04:13:00 -
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Never. Dual wielding either sucks or is OP, and is unrealistic. |
SILVERBACK 02
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
219
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Posted - 2013.09.02 04:19:00 -
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Godin Thekiller wrote:Never. Dual wielding either sucks or is OP, and is unrealistic.
because dust is sooo realistic?
plus mecenarys carry dual weapons all the time... |
Exmaple Core
Ancient Exiles
1032
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Posted - 2013.09.02 04:22:00 -
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as cool as it would be for dual wielding weapons, we die fast enough as it is. i would like to be able to at least turn around before i die |
ALPHA DECRIPTER
M.E.R.C. Conventional Forces D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
392
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Posted - 2013.09.02 04:26:00 -
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Godin Thekiller wrote:Never. Dual wielding either sucks or is OP, and is unrealistic.
Knives are, by default, duel wielded (never played a shooter that had duel knives).
Shoot twice as fast (two guns) but unable to aim, reduced accuracy and increased bullet spread. Would be hard to hit a mid-long range target with these debuffs.
`Sigh. Just another fun game of DUST. |
Tectonic Fusion
the unholy legion of darkstar DARKSTAR ARMY
201
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Posted - 2013.09.02 04:28:00 -
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They should have a duel wielding sidearm scout. Now that would be cool. |
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic
5684
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Posted - 2013.09.02 04:28:00 -
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I'd support dual wielding sidearms |
DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
6045
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Posted - 2013.09.02 04:32:00 -
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:I'd support dual wielding sidearms CCP has an old picture of a Logi with two SMGs, so it's not like they haven't at least entertained the idea a little. |
Lurchasaurus
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
1291
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Posted - 2013.09.02 04:33:00 -
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you wanna duel wield? unzip your pants. there you go. |
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Fizzer94
L.O.T.I.S.
45
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Posted - 2013.09.02 05:13:00 -
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Dual SMG would be OP as ... I don't really have any comparisons. But you get the idea, they would be very very very OP. But dual Nova Knives would be cool ... Oh, wait. |
DeadlyAztec11
Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation
2098
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Posted - 2013.09.02 05:20:00 -
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Fizzer94 wrote:Dual SMG would be OP as ... I don't really have any comparisons. But you get the idea, they would be very very very OP. But dual Nova Knives would be cool ... Oh, wait. Yes, I am very sure that having no range, twice the recoil, double the crosshairs and double the dispersion would be super OP
Can't be any more OP than a weapon that shoots a pact volley of shots, with the ability to kill a person in one volley. |
Xender17
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
532
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Posted - 2013.09.02 05:40:00 -
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Google search images. Dust 514 logistics dropsuit. Look for a minmatar medium frame. (Pre-uprising) Carrying 2 sidearms. |
Godin Thekiller
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
436
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Posted - 2013.09.02 06:02:00 -
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ALPHA DECRIPTER wrote:Godin Thekiller wrote:Never. Dual wielding either sucks or is OP, and is unrealistic. Knives are, by default, duel wielded (never played a shooter that had duel knives). Shoot twice as fast (two guns) but unable to aim, reduced accuracy and increased bullet spread. Would be hard to hit a mid-long range target with these debuffs.
`Sigh. Just another fun game of DUST .
Dual knifes makes sense. That's why the are dual wielded. Using two pistols makes no sense, as that's wasting ammo and will probably hurt your wrist guards mounted on the gun and your wrist over time without some kind of special guards, but with those, you couldn't holster it. Like I said, could be either too OP or UP, and would be unrealistic. |
Godin Thekiller
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
436
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Posted - 2013.09.02 06:05:00 -
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SILVERBACK 02 wrote:Godin Thekiller wrote:Never. Dual wielding either sucks or is OP, and is unrealistic. because dust is sooo realistic? plus mercenaries carry dual weapons all the time...
I wasn't talking about Dust at all. the concept of dual wielding is unrealistic in the first place, and only has a action movie level "cool" factor to be relevant in today's foolish nature. And no they don't; show me one that does, and if one actually does, he's/she's a ******* idiot that must has to buy lots of ammo for missing. Also, fixed |
Michael Arck
Anubis Prime Syndicate
761
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Posted - 2013.09.02 06:27:00 -
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No. We got enough cowboys jumping in the air, firing their weapons like Rambo. Halo like Dust? Do not want |
ALPHA DECRIPTER
M.E.R.C. Conventional Forces D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
395
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Posted - 2013.09.02 08:17:00 -
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Godin Thekiller wrote:Dual knifes makes sense. That's why the are dual wielded. Using two pistols makes no sense, as that's wasting ammo and will probably hurt your wrist guards mounted on the gun and your wrist over time without some kind of special guards, but with those, you couldn't holster it. Like I said, could be either too OP or UP, and would be unrealistic.
Guns fire plasma rounds that would kill us If we didn't have this armor... how realistic is that?
Sniper rifle rounds hit it's target instantly but you have to lead your shot if using a rail tank, turret, or instillation.... snipers are rail guns too. Although it's done for balance (this I understand) it isn't very "realistic". Taping an RDV with a dropship at less then a foot per hour = dropship destruction and no damage vs RDV. That is, in no way, realistic.
This is a sci-fi game. I'm sure you are aware that the "Fi" in sci-fi means "Fiction" which can be dumbed down to "Fake".
If it's not right for you then just don't duel wield, Highly doubt it could actually be OP (sidearms anyway). I only mentioned knives 'cause I thought it was original (a +1 to CCP).
`Sigh. Just another fun game of DUST. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1500
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Posted - 2013.09.02 08:32:00 -
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SILVERBACK 02 wrote:Godin Thekiller wrote:Never. Dual wielding either sucks or is OP, and is unrealistic. because dust is sooo realistic? plus mecenarys carry dual weapons all the time... You know any that use Dual AK's personally? |
Smooth Assassin
Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation
109
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Posted - 2013.09.02 08:35:00 -
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Godin Thekiller wrote:Never. Dual wielding either sucks or is OP, and is unrealistic. Nova knives has dueling |
Smooth Assassin
Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation
109
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Posted - 2013.09.02 08:37:00 -
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SILVERBACK 02 wrote:Godin Thekiller wrote:Never. Dual wielding either sucks or is OP, and is unrealistic. because dust is sooo realistic? plus mecenarys carry dual weapons all the time... Like they're checking which weapon to use.... left or right? |
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Godin Thekiller
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
436
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Posted - 2013.09.02 08:37:00 -
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Smooth Assassin wrote:Godin Thekiller wrote:Never. Dual wielding either sucks or is OP, and is unrealistic. Nova knives has dueling
That makes sense as already stated. Learn to read bro. |
Godin Thekiller
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
436
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Posted - 2013.09.02 08:42:00 -
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ALPHA DECRIPTER wrote:Godin Thekiller wrote:Dual knifes makes sense. That's why the are dual wielded. Using two pistols makes no sense, as that's wasting ammo and will probably hurt your wrist guards mounted on the gun and your wrist over time without some kind of special guards, but with those, you couldn't holster it. Like I said, could be either too OP or UP, and would be unrealistic. Guns fire plasma rounds that would kill us If we didn't have this armor... how realistic is that? Sniper rifle rounds hit it's target instantly but you have to lead your shot if using a rail tank, turret, or instillation.... snipers are rail guns too. Although it's done for balance (this I understand) it isn't very "realistic". Taping an RDV with a dropship at less then a foot per hour = dropship destruction and no damage vs RDV. That is, in no way, realistic. This is a sci-fi game. I'm sure you are aware that the "Fi" in sci-fi means "Fiction" which can be dumbed down to "Fake". If it's not right for you then just don't duel wield, Highly doubt it could actually be OP (sidearms anyway). I only mentioned knives 'cause I thought it was original (a +1 to CCP).
`Sigh. Just another fun game of DUST .
The plasma won't kill us if we didn't have the suits. More like the recoil is too high and the guns are too heavy for non-mercs to use. And the Rail Sniper tech has hfster rails than the Railguns, but a way lighter payload. That's why the small rails are hitscan. As for the RDV thing, yea you got the there. That really needs fixing, as at the ridiculousness of the RDV's, one could say that that's a bug, not a actual mechanic. |
ALPHA DECRIPTER
M.E.R.C. Conventional Forces D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
397
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Posted - 2013.09.02 09:23:00 -
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Godin Thekiller wrote: The plasma won't kill us if we didn't have the suits. More like the recoil is too high and the guns are too heavy for non-mercs to use. And the Rail Sniper tech has hfster rails than the Railguns, but a way lighter payload. That's why the small rails are hitscan. As for the RDV thing, yea you got the there. That really needs fixing, as at the ridiculousness of the RDV's, one could say that that's a bug, not a actual mechanic.
Plasma: Actually you will catch fire without the suits (caught me by surprise to hear that but, eh). Doubt the AR, pistols, and SMG are truly THAT heavy. HMG, Forgun, launchers... yea I can see THOSE as crushing you w/out the suits.
Rails: Makes sense to me I suppose.
RDV: Yea I know, I was just trying to make a point and it popped in my head lol
`Sigh. Just another fun game of DUST. |
Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
3442
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Posted - 2013.09.02 09:50:00 -
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I've said it before, and I'll probably say it again.
HOW TO MAKE DUAL-WIELD WORK:
- Make each weapon independent - L1 fires left-hand weapon, R1 fires right. Obviously, this means no fine aim. - Limit to dual sidearms only. If a player has 2 Sidearm weapons equipped, they can select either one independently, or dual-wield. - Reload time increased by 50% while dual-wielding. - Accuracy reduced by 50%, spread increased by 50% whle dual-wielding.
This would make dual-wielding a fun and effective option, but without letting players go too far with it. |
Korvin Lomont
United Pwnage Service RISE of LEGION
114
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Posted - 2013.09.02 10:07:00 -
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ALPHA DECRIPTER wrote:Godin Thekiller wrote:Never. Dual wielding either sucks or is OP, and is unrealistic. Knives are, by default, duel wielded (never played a shooter that had duel knives). Shoot twice as fast (two guns) but unable to aim, reduced accuracy and increased bullet spread. Would be hard to hit a mid-long range target with these debuffs.
`Sigh. Just another fun game of DUST .
And Double the Reload Time. limit Dula wield to Sidearms and I am in for it |
Matticus Monk
Ordus Trismegistus
400
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Posted - 2013.09.02 10:19:00 -
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It sounds gimmicky to me and I'm not a fan of it.... but if it was done it would need to have some major restrictions like those mentioned above. |
Powerh8er
Norwegian Dust514 Corporation Top Men.
62
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Posted - 2013.09.02 10:54:00 -
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Godin Thekiller wrote:Never. Dual wielding either sucks or is OP, and is unrealistic.
Its not unrealistic, a certain african president used to duel-wield two machineguns in his early career. |
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