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Nguruthos IX
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Posted - 2013.09.01 21:38:00 -
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Three threads you will never see. |
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Posted - 2013.09.01 22:43:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:I do find the aiming to be good. Not great, but definitely not as bad as it is claimed to be.
Alright let me fix that for you.
First person view in dropship is perfect. It's easy to stay on target with a blaster too |
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Posted - 2013.09.01 22:52:00 -
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Yokal Bob wrote:does anyone actually use small rails? iv never been killed by one, neither has anyone else i have asked.
No. Try it. You'll see why lol |
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Posted - 2013.09.01 22:56:00 -
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Beld Errmon wrote:I can't use the first person aim in my incubus for ****, even if i could i probably wouldn't cause i can't aim down properly with it and you can't keep your movement up.
What kinda high scores are you guys getting in the ADS? Im usually pretty happy if i come out of a game alive with 10-20 kills, so far the highest i've managed was 29.
yeah first person locks your turret to directly in front of you. But given no flight instruments it's too easy to be descending backwards and crash into the ground if you are focusing on a target. Also because you can't move the turret.
Also this makes controlling it pretty impossible.
Maybe a little window in the bottom could serve as turret Scope? A camera attached to turret so you can get a better idea of where it's aiming while you're flying idk |
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Posted - 2013.09.01 23:09:00 -
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Henchmen21 wrote:from the external view I'd settle for a cross hair that's not the same color as my incubus. Madding trying to use a blaster and constantly loosing the tiny dot I have for a crosshair.
Maybe some transparency effect to see through my own ship at the targets below. Or any other solution that helps with this. What do you got? |
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Posted - 2013.09.01 23:32:00 -
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gbghg wrote:Beld Errmon wrote:I can't use the first person aim in my incubus for ****, even if i could i probably wouldn't cause i can't aim down properly with it and you can't keep your movement up.
What kinda high scores are you guys getting in the ADS? Im usually pretty happy if i come out of a game alive with 10-20 kills, so far the highest i've managed was 29. Provided theres no evil forge gunners trying to kill me (or redline rail tanks for that matter) and depending on ground cover (SI, buildings etc) and availability of juicy targets (tanks, dropships), normally around 10 to 15 kills, that's when I focus on anti infantry for the whole match, I spend most of my time killing turrets or tanks, my scoreboard tends to be around 5-7 kills and a couple hundred WP. That said I've had some really good matches where I get around 20 kills, those are somewhat rare though. And personally I'm happy if my ship comes out alive, I prefer to make my investments last as long as they can. Oh, and small rails are just garbage in every way, aiming is even worse than blaster turrets, high overheat (way too high for how many shots you get), crappy damage (it's to do with the efficiency, though stated to be a AV turret, they only have something like a 37% efficiency against vehicles).
Except you could easily go 15 kills and more warpoints by dropping an uplink and using AR or militia forge + Av nades.
And yeah, you might die a few more times but your suit and weapon cost under 5000 isk total. militia is OP.
Or you could risk a million isk to get BLAPed by an assault forge or spawned into by an RDV
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Posted - 2013.09.01 23:33:00 -
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if small rail is an AV turret then I'm an octopus.
because that makes no sense. Efficiency is crap, as you said. and overheat is insane. damage, accuracy and spash are all nearly not existent.
Let me go a rail on my DS later tonight and see how long it takes to kill an LAV or tank lol. (obviously nobody will be killing an LAV with a small rail) |
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Posted - 2013.09.01 23:38:00 -
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gbghg wrote:Nguruthos IX wrote:gbghg wrote:Beld Errmon wrote:I can't use the first person aim in my incubus for ****, even if i could i probably wouldn't cause i can't aim down properly with it and you can't keep your movement up.
What kinda high scores are you guys getting in the ADS? Im usually pretty happy if i come out of a game alive with 10-20 kills, so far the highest i've managed was 29. Provided theres no evil forge gunners trying to kill me (or redline rail tanks for that matter) and depending on ground cover (SI, buildings etc) and availability of juicy targets (tanks, dropships), normally around 10 to 15 kills, that's when I focus on anti infantry for the whole match, I spend most of my time killing turrets or tanks, my scoreboard tends to be around 5-7 kills and a couple hundred WP. That said I've had some really good matches where I get around 20 kills, those are somewhat rare though. And personally I'm happy if my ship comes out alive, I prefer to make my investments last as long as they can. Oh, and small rails are just garbage in every way, aiming is even worse than blaster turrets, high overheat (way too high for how many shots you get), crappy damage (it's to do with the efficiency, though stated to be a AV turret, they only have something like a 37% efficiency against vehicles). Except you could easily go 15 kills and more warpoints by dropping an uplink and using AR or militia forge + Av nades. And yeah, you might die a few more times but your suit and weapon cost under 5000 isk total. militia is OP. Or you could risk a million isk to get BLAPed by an assault forge or spawned into by an RDV Or I can just spawn in my chary, get 15 kills, the joy of all the qq and rage I just caused and around 1000WP. Alternatively I could just spawn in my milita heavy fit (4000 ISK total) and have fun trying out a new and considerably less expensive role.
Forge+nades is therapeutic against LAVs sometimes. |
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Posted - 2013.09.01 23:39:00 -
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gbghg wrote:Nguruthos IX wrote:if small rail is an AV turret then I'm an octopus.
because that makes no sense. Efficiency is crap, as you said. and overheat is insane. damage, accuracy and spash are all nearly not existent.
Let me go a rail on my DS later tonight and see how long it takes to kill an LAV or tank lol. (obviously nobody will be killing an LAV with a small rail) Read the description, it specifically says "anti vehicle turret" (or something like that I can't check), which makes the low efficiency even more confusing, bojo the mighty made a thread about it back in chrome, let me go did it up.
That's interesting lol.
I wonder if lots of these values in Dust arn't just typos as a result of communication failures between Shanghi and Iceland.
Logi DS was probably meant to gain 20% resist, not the LAV. And rails were probably supposed to be 137% against vehicles or something. Its all so weird.
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Posted - 2013.09.01 23:48:00 -
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gbghg wrote:Nguruthos IX wrote:gbghg wrote:Nguruthos IX wrote:if small rail is an AV turret then I'm an octopus.
because that makes no sense. Efficiency is crap, as you said. and overheat is insane. damage, accuracy and spash are all nearly not existent.
Let me go a rail on my DS later tonight and see how long it takes to kill an LAV or tank lol. (obviously nobody will be killing an LAV with a small rail) Read the description, it specifically says "anti vehicle turret" (or something like that I can't check), which makes the low efficiency even more confusing, bojo the mighty made a thread about it back in chrome, let me go did it up. That's interesting lol. I wonder if lots of these values in Dust arn't just typos as a result of communication failures between Shanghi and Iceland. Logi DS was probably meant to gain 20% resist, not the LAV. And rails were probably supposed to be 137% against vehicles or something. Its all so weird. Here we go, https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=65499As nova points out, if it weren't for the terrible efficiency small rails would probably be decent, maybe OP.
What a disappointing conclusion to that thread. CCP went off to "investigate" the issue. Suuure they did.
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Posted - 2013.09.01 23:49:00 -
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What am I saying, I guess it's too late now.
It took them having to re-work vehicles and turrets entirely to look at small rails. And even then, it'll only be by accident that it will be fixed in 1.5. If that happens.
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