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daishi mk03 wrote:

Background:
Everybody knows Teamplayers (EoN.) are currently attacking all their districts with an alt corp to lock them and render them invincible. Despite the fact that these attacks cost a big amount of money, the locked districts still provide more money. By exploiting this mechanic, they produce an infinite amount of ISK without anybody being able to stop them.

Problem:
This evening I played domination on Line Harvest. Some enemies were from Teamplayers, especially this guy called "legend" something. He called in a Madrugar with a proto blaster (costs ~1,3m ISK) and started to kill our infantry. Since he wasn't that good with driving and was hitting the walls everywhere it was easy to destroy him with my railgun .. fine, you think.
One minute later, another madrugar of him ... I destroyed it.
Another minute later, another madrugar, another kill for me.

Now, this isn't the problem, but on the way from his redline to my railgun he killed like 5 infantry guys each time. If you calculate this, it's -5 clones for us, -1 clone for them each time by just throwing out their infinite ISK. There is no way to stop this. You cannot win games like this.

tldr:
Teamplayers has infinite ISK and can call in infinite vehicles in public matches to win games despite being DOMINATED.

Edit: A guy from Poor Innocence did the same, but his Gunnlogis couldn't kill any infantry before they exploded, so this was fine.

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daishi mk03 Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic 130	Posted - 2013.08.29 19:51:00 - [1] - Quote Background: Everybody knows Teamplayers (EoN.) are currently attacking all their districts with an alt corp to lock them and render them invincible. Despite the fact that these attacks cost a big amount of money, the locked districts still provide more money. By exploiting this mechanic, they produce an infinite amount of ISK without anybody being able to stop them. Problem: This evening I played domination on Line Harvest. Some enemies were from Teamplayers, especially this guy called "legend" something. He called in a Madrugar with a proto blaster (costs ~1,3m ISK) and started to kill our infantry. Since he wasn't that good with driving and was hitting the walls everywhere it was easy to destroy him with my railgun .. fine, you think. One minute later, another madrugar of him ... I destroyed it. Another minute later, another madrugar, another kill for me. Now, this isn't the problem, but on the way from his redline to my railgun he killed like 5 infantry guys each time. If you calculate this, it's -5 clones for us, -1 clone for them each time by just throwing out their infinite ISK. There is no way to stop this. You cannot win games like this. tldr: Teamplayers has infinite ISK and can call in infinite vehicles in public matches to win games despite being DOMINATED. Edit: A guy from Poor Innocence did the same, but his Gunnlogis couldn't kill any infantry before they exploded, so this was fine.
ReGnYuM TeamPlayers EoN. 806	Posted - 2013.08.29 20:57:00 - [2] - Quote I presume you were rail sniping from the redline
ladwar Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 1318	Posted - 2013.08.29 20:59:00 - [3] - Quote ReGnYuM wrote: I presume you were rail sniping from the redline AFKing actually but you know same thing
Jathniel G I A N T EoN. 807	Posted - 2013.08.29 21:24:00 - [4] - Quote lmao "welcome to New Eden". Wars are fought with isk my friend. That "exploit" is simply TP relying on their vast network. htfu. lol http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unkIVvjZc9Y
ZDub 303 TeamPlayers EoN. 1925	Posted - 2013.08.29 21:47:00 - [5] - Quote No one has infinite ISK, not even TP.
gargantuise aaron Sanguine Knights 120	Posted - 2013.08.29 22:03:00 - [6] - Quote ZDub 303 wrote: No one has infinite ISK, not even TP. Because you'd definitely admit to your exploit
ZDub 303 TeamPlayers EoN. 1927	Posted - 2013.08.29 22:46:00 - [7] - Quote gargantuise aaron wrote: ZDub 303 wrote: No one has infinite ISK, not even TP. Because you'd definitely admit to your exploit What exploit? I haven't exploited anything.
Meeko Fent Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 729	Posted - 2013.08.29 22:52:00 - [8] - Quote ZDub 303 wrote: gargantuise aaron wrote: ZDub 303 wrote: No one has infinite ISK, not even TP. Because you'd definitely admit to your exploit What exploit? I haven't exploited anything. While I wouldn't call it an exploit, I think it is a good use of broken game mechanics. PC is broke, and I will not Lie. its just Farmville, and hopefully the Indies realize this and save up for a few Protosuits, and give you guys a good fight. Most people are ***** at you guys Z cause you get passive income for nothing, and I Think it undermines the point of the game. Bump the Active Battle PC reward, and either Delete the ability to sell clones for ISKies, or reduce their payout so much that it isn't worth selling them. I'm think about making a bust into PC when I make a Corp and get it up and running, fully Staffed and all. Keep fighting man.
Maffia- Thug 3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance 62	Posted - 2013.08.30 02:30:00 - [9] - Quote daishi mk03 wrote: Background: Everybody knows Teamplayers (EoN.) are currently attacking all their districts with an alt corp to lock them and render them invincible. Despite the fact that these attacks cost a big amount of money, the locked districts still provide more money. By exploiting this mechanic, they produce an infinite amount of ISK without anybody being able to stop them. Problem: This evening I played domination on Line Harvest. Some enemies were from Teamplayers, especially this guy called "legend" something. He called in a Madrugar with a proto blaster (costs ~1,3m ISK) and started to kill our infantry. Since he wasn't that good with driving and was hitting the walls everywhere it was easy to destroy him with my railgun .. fine, you think. One minute later, another madrugar of him ... I destroyed it. Another minute later, another madrugar, another kill for me. Now, this isn't the problem, but on the way from his redline to my railgun he killed like 5 infantry guys each time. If you calculate this, it's -5 clones for us, -1 clone for them each time by just throwing out their infinite ISK. There is no way to stop this. You cannot win games like this. tldr: Teamplayers has infinite ISK and can call in infinite vehicles in public matches to win games despite being DOMINATED. Edit: A guy from Poor Innocence did the same, but his Gunnlogis couldn't kill any infantry before they exploded, so this was fine. In a way though. That is also TP members spreading the wealth around, as the end of the match total isk loss is tallied up and split by everyone.
DeadlyAztec11 Red Star Jr. EoN. 2072	Posted - 2013.08.30 02:54:00 - [10] - Quote Team Players, like many other players, are simply bored out there heads and like anybody who is bored and gas a ton if money, they burn it as fast as they can for the laughs. It's all just for the laughs.

daishi mk03 Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic 135	Posted - 2013.08.30 04:41:00 - [11] - Quote ReGnYuM wrote: I presume you were rail sniping from the redline Nope, you know, positioning is everything. Easier to kill that madrugar from behind, while he thinks I'm near my redline. Poor Innocence called in Gunnlogis on the towers and then tried to snipe me, staying directly under the specific tower .. lol. He dropped his Gunnlogi right in front of me to shoot it.
Meeko Fent Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 737	Posted - 2013.08.30 04:54:00 - [12] - Quote I hate sounding likes ** to you guys in EoN, cause you all are doing nothing wrong, but why do you guys have to all get in an uproar cause somebody mentioned you in the forums? And OP, realize that every large corp will do that lately, cause usually the have at least one district, so they can buy whatever the hell they want. Specifically pointing out EoN makes you look like a **.
daishi mk03 Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic 135	Posted - 2013.08.30 04:58:00 - [13] - Quote No, man, you have to see the escalation. No normal corp will call in vehicles worth more than 10m each map they play in public games, because it's f cking expensive and not worth it.
Phantom Vaxer The Generals EoN. 82	Posted - 2013.08.30 05:01:00 - [14] - Quote If they are exploiting by way using their own alt corps to lock their regions to have a continuous safe income of ISK then all I have to say is...the **. Why the ** be little bitches to get infinite ISK?
daishi mk03 Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic 135	Posted - 2013.08.30 05:03:00 - [15] - Quote Phantom Vaxer wrote: If they are exploiting by way using their own alt corps to lock their regions to have a continuous safe income of ISK then all I have to say is...the **. Why the ** be little bitches to get infinite ISK? Don't try to tell anybody you know nothing about it. Here is the official thread: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=105343&find=unread
Void Echo Echo Galactic Industries 1138	Posted - 2013.08.30 05:18:00 - [16] - Quote daishi mk03 wrote: Background: Everybody knows Teamplayers (EoN.) are currently attacking all their districts with an alt corp to lock them and render them invincible. Despite the fact that these attacks cost a big amount of money, the locked districts still provide more money. By exploiting this mechanic, they produce an infinite amount of ISK without anybody being able to stop them. Problem: This evening I played domination on Line Harvest. Some enemies were from Teamplayers, especially this guy called "legend" something. He called in a Madrugar with a proto blaster (costs ~1,3m ISK) and started to kill our infantry. Since he wasn't that good with driving and was hitting the walls everywhere it was easy to destroy him with my railgun .. fine, you think. One minute later, another madrugar of him ... I destroyed it. Another minute later, another madrugar, another kill for me. Now, this isn't the problem, but on the way from his redline to my railgun he killed like 5 infantry guys each time. If you calculate this, it's -5 clones for us, -1 clone for them each time by just throwing out their infinite ISK. There is no way to stop this. You cannot win games like this. tldr: Teamplayers has infinite ISK and can call in infinite vehicles in public matches to win games despite being DOMINATED. Edit: A guy from Poor Innocence did the same, but his Gunnlogis couldn't kill any infantry before they exploded, so this was fine. funny thing about that, I killed legend a few hours ago when we were in domination granted the other people in my squad hit him too, lol I saw swarms fly at him once and I saw him get hit 3 times by a plasma cannon, that whole time I myself was hitting him with my rail gun, in the end I killed him... he even sent me hate mail for it lol. also he was with chicagocubs and other TPs, funny that they didn't go AV when they saw my name in the killfeed, although Chicago did kill me right after I realled my tank because some blues literally followed my across the map just to AFK in my turrets.
ZDub 303 TeamPlayers EoN. 1931	Posted - 2013.08.30 05:30:00 - [17] - Quote Meeko Fent wrote: ZDub 303 wrote: gargantuise aaron wrote: ZDub 303 wrote: No one has infinite ISK, not even TP. Because you'd definitely admit to your exploit What exploit? I haven't exploited anything. While I wouldn't call it an exploit, I think it is a good use of broken game mechanics. PC is broke, and I will not Lie. its just Farmville, and hopefully the Indies realize this and save up for a few Protosuits, and give you guys a good fight. Most people are ***** at you guys Z cause you get passive income for nothing, and I Think it undermines the point of the game. Bump the Active Battle PC reward, and either Delete the ability to sell clones for ISKies, or reduce their payout so much that it isn't worth selling them. I'm think about making a bust into PC when I make a Corp and get it up and running, fully Staffed and all. Keep fighting man. Just don't blame me for it! lol I'm playing FF14, taking a nice long vacation from Dust until they can get the game back on track. Still addicted to these damn forums though... for reasons that elude all logic.
Arkena Wyrnspire Turalyon 514 2831	Posted - 2013.08.30 07:17:00 - [18] - Quote This is more symptomatic of a broken 'economy', though the alt corp locking shouldn't be doable.
martinofski Rebelles A Quebec Orion Empire 312	Posted - 2013.08.30 12:17:00 - [19] - Quote You'll never see poor peoples having an edge over rich folks, that is all... Poor players will use a proto one in a match, they die, they start using militia stuff, making the game even more one sided. Rich guys will run everything they want when they want. maxed out tanks or whatever. Pretty much unavoidable. Live with it, that's how the game is made. Actually, having TP running PC so much, they are staying away from pubs, making less pubs stomping . Not sure I like the locking district possibility, but O well, that's another story. It should just be a queue where you attack and wait your turn. That is a game design issue...and TP are using it. They play the game as it is, the way they want.
Charlotte O'Dell 0uter.Heaven 1245	Posted - 2013.08.30 13:22:00 - [20] - Quote Lol. Sounds like Legend....He's one of those tankers who spams ridiculously good tanks but doesn't have the skill to keep them alive. In other news, [locking districts with alt corps] is a game mechanic and anyone can do it, so I don't think it is technically cheating.



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