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          Anmol Singh 
          the unholy legion of darkstar DARKSTAR ARMY
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        Posted - 2013.08.27 23:28:00 -
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          CCP, if your trying to make vehicles fun, then just stop before you make most vehicle drivers quit... A prime example of a fun weapon: NOVA knife.. is it good no, does it make money for you-no...
  This game is about surviving not about fun, because when things are fun-you lose money... nobody wants to lose money... when people lose money and have no ability to change what that specced into they quit... and when they quit this game dies... which has already happened..
  dont nerf tanks.. seriously dont listen to the militia scrubs that can kill good tanks with their militia swarms... listen to the tankers that get killed by proto AV... 
  The suppose "buffs" your giving in 1.5 don't sound so good from what your saying... good luck with this game but who am I to judge you don't listen to nobody. | 
      
      
      
          
          Chris F2112 
          A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
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        Posted - 2013.08.27 23:32:00 -
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          And they certainly shouldn't listen to people who cannot even wait for numbers before passing judgment on the patch. I think it sounds like a good step in the right direction. | 
      
      
      
          
          Luk Manag 
          of Terror
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        Posted - 2013.08.27 23:34:00 -
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          Tanks would be more fun if you could lose one or two and still remain profitable. | 
      
      
      
          
          Anmol Singh 
          the unholy legion of darkstar DARKSTAR ARMY
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        Posted - 2013.08.27 23:35:00 -
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          Chris F2112 wrote:And they certainly shouldn't listen to people who cannot even wait for numbers before passing judgment on the patch. I think it sounds like a good step in the right direction.  
  when am i passing judgement, im just say that if this (what ever this is) happens, people might not like it... | 
      
      
      
          
          Anmol Singh 
          the unholy legion of darkstar DARKSTAR ARMY
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        Posted - 2013.08.27 23:35:00 -
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          Luk Manag wrote:Tanks would be more fun if you could lose one or two and still remain profitable.  
  BF3 funnest game ever.. | 
      
      
      
          
          Luk Manag 
          of Terror
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        Posted - 2013.08.27 23:39:00 -
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          Anmol Singh wrote:Luk Manag wrote:Tanks would be more fun if you could lose one or two and still remain profitable.  BF3 funnest game ever..   
  Yeah, why not have maps that come with a free tank at the start of the match? | 
      
      
      
          
          Anmol Singh 
          the unholy legion of darkstar DARKSTAR ARMY
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        Posted - 2013.08.27 23:41:00 -
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          Luk Manag wrote:Anmol Singh wrote:Luk Manag wrote:Tanks would be more fun if you could lose one or two and still remain profitable.  BF3 funnest game ever..   Yeah, why not have maps that come with a free tank at the start of the match?  
  dude BF3 was fun... Dust is kind of serious but it can be fun if your willing to spend a lot of isk a match and if you use remote explosives... | 
      
      
      
          
          Spkr4theDead 
          International-Fleet
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        Posted - 2013.08.27 23:41:00 -
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          Chris F2112 wrote:And they certainly shouldn't listen to people who cannot even wait for numbers before passing judgment on the patch. I think it sounds like a good step in the right direction.   So why should we listen to people that don't pilot vehicles? | 
      
      
      
          
          Anmol Singh 
          the unholy legion of darkstar DARKSTAR ARMY
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        Posted - 2013.08.27 23:42:00 -
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          Spkr4theDead wrote:Chris F2112 wrote:And they certainly shouldn't listen to people who cannot even wait for numbers before passing judgment on the patch. I think it sounds like a good step in the right direction.  So why should we listen to people that don't pilot vehicles?  
 
  OOO burnn... | 
      
      
      
          
          Monkey MAC 
          killer taxi company General Tso's Alliance
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        Posted - 2013.08.27 23:44:00 -
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          Anmol Singh wrote:Luk Manag wrote:Tanks would be more fun if you could lose one or two and still remain profitable.  BF3 funnest game ever..   
  Yet everythimg in there can be blown up by a guy with a helicopter sounds great! You go play that and well play this or is that not fun enough? | 
      
      
      
          
          Anmol Singh 
          the unholy legion of darkstar DARKSTAR ARMY
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        Posted - 2013.08.27 23:47:00 -
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          Monkey MAC wrote:Anmol Singh wrote:Luk Manag wrote:Tanks would be more fun if you could lose one or two and still remain profitable.  BF3 funnest game ever..   Yet everythimg in there can be blown up by a guy with a helicopter sounds great! You go play that and well play this or is that not fun enough?  
  Why so negative.. did i say something wrong? i meant it is a really fun game | 
      
      
      
          
          Bittersteel the Bastard 
          WarRavens League of Infamy
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        Posted - 2013.08.28 00:03:00 -
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          No. Just. No. | 
      
      
      
          
          Seymor Krelborn 
          DUST University Ivy League
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        Posted - 2013.08.28 00:07:00 -
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          1.5 looks like a great move... will actually need to see more in depth coverage of the finer points, and then play it myself to be sure, but everything I read in that post looks good so far....
  the OP is not seeing the bigger picture here, disregard him CCP. | 
      
      
      
          
          BL4CKST4R 
          WarRavens League of Infamy
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        Posted - 2013.08.28 00:17:00 -
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          Anmol Singh wrote:CCP, if your trying to make vehicles fun, then just stop before you make most vehicle drivers quit... A prime example of a fun weapon: NOVA knife.. is it good no, does it make money for you-no...
  This game is about surviving not about fun, because when things are fun-you lose money... nobody wants to lose money... when people lose money and have no ability to change what that specced into they quit... and when they quit this game dies... which has already happened..
  dont nerf tanks.. seriously dont listen to the militia scrubs that can kill good tanks with their militia swarms... listen to the tankers that get killed by proto AV... 
  The suppose "buffs" your giving in 1.5 don't sound so good from what your saying... good luck with this game but who am I to judge you don't listen to nobody.   
 
  Then give players more money... | 
      
      
      
          
          Criteria Shipment 
          Baynaer Space Command The Ditanian Alliance
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        Posted - 2013.08.28 00:23:00 -
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          BL4CKST4R wrote:Anmol Singh wrote:CCP, if your trying to make vehicles fun, then just stop before you make most vehicle drivers quit... A prime example of a fun weapon: NOVA knife.. is it good no, does it make money for you-no...
  This game is about surviving not about fun, because when things are fun-you lose money... nobody wants to lose money... when people lose money and have no ability to change what that specced into they quit... and when they quit this game dies... which has already happened..
  dont nerf tanks.. seriously dont listen to the militia scrubs that can kill good tanks with their militia swarms... listen to the tankers that get killed by proto AV... 
  The suppose "buffs" your giving in 1.5 don't sound so good from what your saying... good luck with this game but who am I to judge you don't listen to nobody.   Then give players more money...   ...to waste? | 
      
      
      
          
          Aizen Intiki 
          Ghost Wolf Industries Alpha Wolf Pack
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        Posted - 2013.08.28 00:25:00 -
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          Seems like a whole bunch of buffs imo...... | 
      
      
      
          
          Bojo The Mighty 
          Zanzibar Concept
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        Posted - 2013.08.28 00:26:00 -
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          I've heard nothing but whining, mostly from suspected HAV's. 
  Look, 1.5 is supposed to make vehicles FUN. Vehicles aren't supposed to be easy-mode and as a pilot I look forward to seeing the extremes of shields and armor, of passive and active, of firepower vs pacifists. 
  Quit your whining, Nova Knifers don't whine, so don't reference them. You're only going to associate them with this crap. Nova Knifers have FUN. If you are so obsessed with survival you would not have become a vehicle operator in the first place! | 
      
      
      
          
          Blaze Ashra 
          Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire
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        Posted - 2013.08.28 00:34:00 -
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          It doesn't exactly sound bad from my point of view but I'm more concerned with the stats and what's going to be changed. For the most part it sounds like they're making vehicles into armored infantry units. I'm hoping that they will let vehicles have some version of equipment that's replenish-able at supply depots so I can drop ammo or repair points to tankers that are in combat.
  It sounds like they're just setting up as stable a foundation as they can and want to build upon it. This would be pretty cool, and I like the idea that vehicles will have roles and be customizable but I'm also hoping with this out of the way we can finally get racial variants and counter measures.
  I'm hoping for the best. | 
      
      
      
          
          Aizen Intiki 
          Ghost Wolf Industries Alpha Wolf Pack
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        Posted - 2013.08.28 00:40:00 -
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          Bojo The Mighty wrote:I've heard nothing but whining, mostly from suspected HAV's. 
  Look, 1.5 is supposed to make vehicles FUN. Vehicles aren't supposed to be easy-mode and as a pilot I look forward to seeing the extremes of shields and armor, of passive and active, of firepower vs pacifists. 
  Quit your whining, Nova Knifers don't whine, so don't reference them. You're only going to associate them with this crap. Nova Knifers have FUN. If you are so obsessed with survival you would not have become a vehicle operator in the first place!  
  Nova-knifers do whine, they're are just quiet about it. Anyways, I don't get the whining, as it seems like a bunch of buffs to me. Would have preferred a removal of PROTO and STD AV, changing AV nades into Stasis grenades, and a rework of the vehicles themselves, specifically the T II hulls, but I'll take this. | 
      
      
      
          
          Marston VC 
          SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
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        Posted - 2013.08.28 00:46:00 -
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          Chris F2112 wrote:And they certainly shouldn't listen to people who cannot even wait for numbers before passing judgment on the patch. I think it sounds like a good step in the right direction.  
  agreed, I think its a bit odd that somebody thinks this GAME shouldn't be about fun...... my interpretation of the meaning behind games must be a bit off from the authors.
  My main battle suit costs me 250k isk and I enjoy playing it a lot, and yes I do make money using it. Of course..... I cant really die in it (or else I lose money) but most games I don't die more then once anyway, so im either breaking even or making mad money. Not that money even really matters in this game anyway, soooooo yeahhhhh I do have fun playing this game, and I don't think its a bad thing for tankers to have fun either (so long as "fun" doesn't mean bringing the old missiles back......) | 
      
      
      
          
          Michael Arck 
          sephiroth clones D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
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        Posted - 2013.08.28 01:12:00 -
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          This is stupid. When I read "This game is about surviving not fun" I just threw up my hands. Abandon thread
 
 
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          Monkey MAC 
          killer taxi company General Tso's Alliance
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        Posted - 2013.08.28 01:20:00 -
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          Anmol Singh wrote:Monkey MAC wrote:Anmol Singh wrote:Luk Manag wrote:Tanks would be more fun if you could lose one or two and still remain profitable.  BF3 funnest game ever..   Yet everythimg in there can be blown up by a guy with a helicopter sounds great! You go play that and well play this or is that not fun enough?  Why so negative.. did i say something wrong? i meant it is a really fun game   
  Because your whining, give evidence that can be backed up nova knives are highly situational and I have seen them on the market top sellers numerous times, for evidence on how devasting they can be see the thread my first time with a legend!!
  Back to the matter at hand if means tanks cant rush in, and the f%/^ everything around that letter till the end of the match withou infantry support, something that can be done at moment!! | 
      
      
      
          
          Chris F2112 
          A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
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        Posted - 2013.08.28 01:39:00 -
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          Spkr4theDead wrote:Chris F2112 wrote:And they certainly shouldn't listen to people who cannot even wait for numbers before passing judgment on the patch. I think it sounds like a good step in the right direction.  So why should we listen to people that don't pilot vehicles?  
  I do have alts you know...
  One of them happens to be dropships and tanks. | 
      
      
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