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Anmol Singh
the unholy legion of darkstar DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2013.08.27 13:52:00 -
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gimme a respec because CCP obviously hates vehicles... The ammo cap on turrets, ultra long recharge times on shield boosters, a shield recharge delay which increases with the more shield.... Next thing we know we have a fuel cap and their are going to be gas stations where we have to refuel our tanks... ? If you really wanna fix something and do it right give us the engineering skill and make shield tanks faster than the armor tanks that was the only advantage we had against armor tanks and that has been taken away, you put and ammo on our blasters... i better have 60,000 blaster turret shots... I want a respec so i can go fking caldari logi and AR cuz its not funny when you nerf vehiels over and over again... you not fkin fixing anything CCP!! P.S. nerf the ishyukone assault FG.
I hope this game burns... Isk will be given out the day 1.5 comes cuz ima fking quita. (read last part like you have Italian accent) |
Knight Soiaire
Better Hide R Die
2047
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Posted - 2013.08.27 13:57:00 -
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Armour tank speed should not be nerfed.
Shield tank speed should be buffed, but in the end, armour tanks will be slower because almost every fit has at least one plate. |
Anmol Singh
the unholy legion of darkstar DARKSTAR ARMY
299
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Posted - 2013.08.27 13:59:00 -
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Knight Soiaire wrote:Armour tank speed should not be nerfed.
Shield tank speed should be buffed, but in the end, armour tanks will be slower because almost every fit has at least one plate.
Dude, seriously-why such hate for the shield tanks... yes we are good against swarm launchers and AV nades but still we o down in 10 seconds to a foregun |
Beren Hurin
The Vanguardians
1247
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Posted - 2013.08.27 14:02:00 -
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Anmol Singh wrote:gimme a respec because CCP obviously hates vehicles... The ammo cap on turrets, ultra long recharge times on shield boosters, a shield recharge delay which increases with the more shield.... Next thing we know we have a fuel cap and their are going to be gas stations where we have to refuel our tanks... ? If you really wanna fix something and do it right give us the engineering skill and make shield tanks faster than the armor tanks that was the only advantage we had against armor tanks and that has been taken away, you put and ammo on our blasters... i better have 60,000 blaster turret shots... I want a respec so i can go fking caldari logi and AR cuz its not funny when you nerf vehiels over and over again... you not fkin fixing anything CCP!! P.S. nerf the ishyukone assault FG.
I hope this game burns... Isk will be given out the day 1.5 comes cuz ima fking quita. (read last part like you have Italian accent)
Chill out. You aren't really saying anything here. You have no idea how exactly they are applying their design goals. Say something about the design goals first before flaming anymore. They clearly want there to be trade-offs and for vehicles to be survivable, but also the need for modules will be obvious.
A lot of the vehicle problems has come from ambiguous role approaches to current vehicle design leading players to force different play styles into the game. At some point in the future you can't expect all play styles to be viable for all HAVs. One will be a superior anti-tank, one will be a superior 'chase' tank, one a better scout tank etc. |
Anmol Singh
the unholy legion of darkstar DARKSTAR ARMY
299
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Posted - 2013.08.27 14:10:00 -
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Beren Hurin wrote:Anmol Singh wrote:gimme a respec because CCP obviously hates vehicles... The ammo cap on turrets, ultra long recharge times on shield boosters, a shield recharge delay which increases with the more shield.... Next thing we know we have a fuel cap and their are going to be gas stations where we have to refuel our tanks... ? If you really wanna fix something and do it right give us the engineering skill and make shield tanks faster than the armor tanks that was the only advantage we had against armor tanks and that has been taken away, you put and ammo on our blasters... i better have 60,000 blaster turret shots... I want a respec so i can go fking caldari logi and AR cuz its not funny when you nerf vehiels over and over again... you not fkin fixing anything CCP!! P.S. nerf the ishyukone assault FG.
I hope this game burns... Isk will be given out the day 1.5 comes cuz ima fking quita. (read last part like you have Italian accent) Chill out. You aren't really saying anything here. You have no idea how exactly they are applying their design goals. Say something about the design goals first before flaming anymore. They clearly want there to be trade-offs and for vehicles to be survivable, but also the need for modules will be obvious. A lot of the vehicle problems has come from ambiguous role approaches to current vehicle design leading players to force different play styles into the game. At some point in the future you can't expect all play styles to be viable for all HAVs. One will be a superior anti-tank, one will be a superior 'chase' tank, one a better scout tank etc.
so if we vehicle drivers dont like the change, we can ask for change? |
Beren Hurin
The Vanguardians
1249
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Posted - 2013.08.27 14:10:00 -
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Anmol Singh wrote:Beren Hurin wrote:Anmol Singh wrote:gimme a respec because CCP obviously hates vehicles... The ammo cap on turrets, ultra long recharge times on shield boosters, a shield recharge delay which increases with the more shield.... Next thing we know we have a fuel cap and their are going to be gas stations where we have to refuel our tanks... ? If you really wanna fix something and do it right give us the engineering skill and make shield tanks faster than the armor tanks that was the only advantage we had against armor tanks and that has been taken away, you put and ammo on our blasters... i better have 60,000 blaster turret shots... I want a respec so i can go fking caldari logi and AR cuz its not funny when you nerf vehiels over and over again... you not fkin fixing anything CCP!! P.S. nerf the ishyukone assault FG.
I hope this game burns... Isk will be given out the day 1.5 comes cuz ima fking quita. (read last part like you have Italian accent) Chill out. You aren't really saying anything here. You have no idea how exactly they are applying their design goals. Say something about the design goals first before flaming anymore. They clearly want there to be trade-offs and for vehicles to be survivable, but also the need for modules will be obvious. A lot of the vehicle problems has come from ambiguous role approaches to current vehicle design leading players to force different play styles into the game. At some point in the future you can't expect all play styles to be viable for all HAVs. One will be a superior anti-tank, one will be a superior 'chase' tank, one a better scout tank etc. so if we vehicle drivers dont like the change, we can ask for change?
What has changed so far? You are speaking in the past tense. But it is more than a month away, and we'll likely hear something with more details between now and then. |
Arkena Wyrnspire
Turalyon 514
2765
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Posted - 2013.08.27 14:13:00 -
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You have no numbers or even accurate details about it yet, and you're already complaining. |
low genius
The Sound Of Freedom Renegade Alliance
362
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Posted - 2013.08.27 14:20:00 -
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Anmol Singh wrote:gimme a respec because CCP obviously hates vehicles... The ammo cap on turrets, ultra long recharge times on shield boosters, a shield recharge delay which increases with the more shield.... Next thing we know we have a fuel cap and their are going to be gas stations where we have to refuel our tanks... ? If you really wanna fix something and do it right give us the engineering skill and make shield tanks faster than the armor tanks that was the only advantage we had against armor tanks and that has been taken away, you put and ammo on our blasters... i better have 60,000 blaster turret shots... I want a respec so i can go fking caldari logi and AR cuz its not funny when you nerf vehiels over and over again... you not fkin fixing anything CCP!! P.S. nerf the ishyukone assault FG.
I hope this game burns... Isk will be given out the day 1.5 comes cuz ima fking quita. (read last part like you have Italian accent)
no respecs. ever. |
pegasis prime
BIG BAD W0LVES Eternal Syndicate
705
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Posted - 2013.08.27 14:20:00 -
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Ill be waiting for them to release acctuall numbers before I make my final judgments but I like most if not all the proposed changes. |
2100 Angels
The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine
239
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Posted - 2013.08.27 14:25:00 -
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With the way tanks are at the moment this was absolutely the right way to go about it. They're not being nerfed, they're being completely rebuilt. Logic should tell us from here that they should be a lot better balanced when they're re-released |
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Takahiro Kashuken
Red Star. EoN.
1098
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Posted - 2013.08.27 14:32:00 -
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If you do quit dibs on your ISK
Tanking will be very expensive to maintain after 1.4 let alone the clusterfuck that 1.5 looks to be |
Jack McReady
DUST University Ivy League
400
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Posted - 2013.08.27 14:35:00 -
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Anmol Singh wrote:gimme a respec whiny tank drivers dont get respecs, especially those that dont know how to fit or drive his tank properly.
in short: no respec for you
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jerrmy12 kahoalii
Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION
9
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Posted - 2013.09.24 08:45:00 -
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Takahiro Kashuken wrote:If you do quit dibs on your ISK
Tanking will be very expensive to maintain after 1.4 let alone the clusterfuck that 1.5 looks to be how so? |
Void Echo
Morsus Mihi Aperuitque Imperium
1515
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Posted - 2013.09.24 09:45:00 -
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Anmol Singh wrote:Knight Soiaire wrote:Armour tank speed should not be nerfed.
Shield tank speed should be buffed, but in the end, armour tanks will be slower because almost every fit has at least one plate. Dude, seriously-why such hate for the shield tanks... yes we are good against swarm launchers and AV nades but still we o down in 10 seconds to a foregun
how is wanting shields to be on par with armor tanks being hateful towards them? |
Cody Sietz
Bullet Cluster
1019
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Posted - 2013.09.24 09:49:00 -
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Didn't they say 1.5 isn't going to be about vehicles anymore? |
ladwar
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
1689
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Posted - 2013.09.24 09:53:00 -
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Cody Sietz wrote:Didn't they say 1.5 isn't going to be about vehicles anymore? check the post dates |
Void Echo
Morsus Mihi Aperuitque Imperium
1515
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Posted - 2013.09.24 09:56:00 -
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ladwar wrote:Cody Sietz wrote:Didn't they say 1.5 isn't going to be about vehicles anymore? check the post dates
basically last weak |
ladwar
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
1689
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Posted - 2013.09.24 10:00:00 -
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Void Echo wrote:ladwar wrote:Cody Sietz wrote:Didn't they say 1.5 isn't going to be about vehicles anymore? check the post dates basically last weak the OP and most of the post were about a month ago, long before they said they are pushing 1.5updates or even 1.4 came out. |
Rei Shepard
Spectre II
619
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Posted - 2013.09.24 10:06:00 -
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Anmol Singh wrote:gimme a respec because CCP obviously hates vehicles... The ammo cap on turrets, ultra long recharge times on shield boosters, a shield recharge delay which increases with the more shield.... Next thing we know we have a fuel cap and their are going to be gas stations where we have to refuel our tanks... ? If you really wanna fix something and do it right give us the engineering skill and make shield tanks faster than the armor tanks that was the only advantage we had against armor tanks and that has been taken away, you put and ammo on our blasters... i better have 60,000 blaster turret shots... I want a respec so i can go fking caldari logi and AR cuz its not funny when you nerf vehiels over and over again... you not fkin fixing anything CCP!! P.S. nerf the ishyukone assault FG.
I hope this game burns... Isk will be given out the day 1.5 comes cuz ima fking quita. (read last part like you have Italian accent)
oh lol, so basically you want out of the current vehicles because they get a nerf, into a Logistics suit, awsome at Infantry assault work.
So you going to whine again when they nerf that suit aswell and demand for another respec directly into something else FOTM'ish so when that gets nerfed aswell, need a respec again and again...
You guys and your crutches should get a room ....seriously... |
pegasis prime
BIG BAD W0LVES
1021
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Posted - 2013.09.24 10:10:00 -
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Void Echo wrote:Anmol Singh wrote:Knight Soiaire wrote:Armour tank speed should not be nerfed.
Shield tank speed should be buffed, but in the end, armour tanks will be slower because almost every fit has at least one plate. Dude, seriously-why such hate for the shield tanks... yes we are good against swarm launchers and AV nades but still we o down in 10 seconds to a foregun how is wanting shields to be on par with armor tanks being hateful towards them?
Pretty much the question I was going to ask.
The only major advantage shield tanks had back in chrome was dammage stackingand turret proficiencys, and once the were removed and shield tanks effectively got nerfed . Also shield tanks used to be able to equip chassis mods that gave us a distinct speed advantage over armour tanks . A shield tank used to be able to deliver devastating dammage down range and relocate verry quickly to wrinse and repeat else where on the map.
So in short with the removal of mods and skills that gave shield tanks their high dammage hit run hide style they were nerfed hard to the point that only vet pilots can acctually make them viable for pub games (dont even mention shield tanks in pc lol).
Some of the changes that were planed for 1.5 sounded intaresting and would give both schools of tanking viable rolles on the battlefield. But innthe mean time shield havs need a faster regen rate and better hardners in orded to stand a chance against armour vrs shield tank combat. |
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pegasis prime
BIG BAD W0LVES
1022
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Posted - 2013.09.24 10:28:00 -
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Rei Shepard wrote:Anmol Singh wrote:gimme a respec because CCP obviously hates vehicles... The ammo cap on turrets, ultra long recharge times on shield boosters, a shield recharge delay which increases with the more shield.... Next thing we know we have a fuel cap and their are going to be gas stations where we have to refuel our tanks... ? If you really wanna fix something and do it right give us the engineering skill and make shield tanks faster than the armor tanks that was the only advantage we had against armor tanks and that has been taken away, you put and ammo on our blasters... i better have 60,000 blaster turret shots... I want a respec so i can go fking caldari logi and AR cuz its not funny when you nerf vehiels over and over again... you not fkin fixing anything CCP!! P.S. nerf the ishyukone assault FG.
I hope this game burns... Isk will be given out the day 1.5 comes cuz ima fking quita. (read last part like you have Italian accent) oh lol, so basically you want out of the current vehicles because they get a nerf, into a Logistics suit, awsome at Infantry assault work. So you going to whine again when they nerf that suit aswell and demand for another respec directly into something else FOTM'ish so when that gets nerfed aswell, need a respec again and again... You guys and your crutches should get a room ....seriously...
Dont use the cruch word unless your trying to sound cool
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jerrmy12 kahoalii
Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION
10
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Posted - 2013.09.24 10:34:00 -
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pegasis prime wrote:Void Echo wrote:Anmol Singh wrote:Knight Soiaire wrote:Armour tank speed should not be nerfed.
Shield tank speed should be buffed, but in the end, armour tanks will be slower because almost every fit has at least one plate. Dude, seriously-why such hate for the shield tanks... yes we are good against swarm launchers and AV nades but still we o down in 10 seconds to a foregun how is wanting shields to be on par with armor tanks being hateful towards them? Pretty much the question I was going to ask. The only major advantage shield tanks had back in chrome was dammage stackingand tutank the shield tank is s hit and run according to 1.6. yet hit and run got nerfed. shield tanks need better passive resistance modules, better shield extenders and less pg cost, 20-25 sec hardeners, 300 base hp increase, better speed, better boosters, and just more pg overall. make tanks slightly less expensive/or give 300K extra isk p/game when deployed and get som wp |
CharCharOdell
Shining Flame Amarr Empire
975
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Posted - 2013.09.24 14:10:00 -
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1.6 isn't out for 2 months. Give Wolfman a chance. He fixed the armor dropsuts, didn't he |
Cosgar
ParagonX
5404
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Posted - 2013.09.24 14:13:00 -
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CharCharOdell wrote:1.6 isn't out for 2 months. Give Wolfman a chance. He fixed the armor dropsuts, didn't he Lasers and mass drivers too. |
ABadMutha13
Nihil-Obstat Mercs General Tso's Alliance
31
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Posted - 2013.09.24 14:40:00 -
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jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:pegasis prime wrote:Void Echo wrote:Anmol Singh wrote:Knight Soiaire wrote:Armour tank speed should not be nerfed.
Shield tank speed should be buffed, but in the end, armour tanks will be slower because almost every fit has at least one plate. Dude, seriously-why such hate for the shield tanks... yes we are good against swarm launchers and AV nades but still we o down in 10 seconds to a foregun how is wanting shields to be on par with armor tanks being hateful towards them? Pretty much the question I was going to ask. The only major advaank the shield tank is s hit and run according to 1.6. yet hit and run got nerfed. shield tanks need better passive resistance modules, better shield extenders and less pg cost, 20-25 sec hardeners, 300 base hp increase, better speed, better boosters, and just more pg overall. make tanks slightly less expensive/or give 300K extra isk p/game when deployed after earning WP. ps3 char limit
No no you missed it...
It was supposed to be hit and run but Hit got postponed until 1.7.
In the current build you are just "run".
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low genius
the sound of freedom Renegade Alliance
474
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Posted - 2013.09.24 14:42:00 -
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no respecs. ever. you're doing it wrong. your fit sucks. and you don't know how to play your position. |
low genius
the sound of freedom Renegade Alliance
474
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Posted - 2013.09.24 14:45:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:CharCharOdell wrote:1.6 isn't out for 2 months. Give Wolfman a chance. He fixed the armor dropsuts, didn't he Lasers and mass drivers too.
lasers are fantastic. don't touch them.
unless you give them a bit more range so I don't get killed by ar's... |
TheAmazing FlyingPig
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
3762
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Posted - 2013.09.24 14:46:00 -
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OP post date.
Thread Necro lvl 3 get. |
DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
6454
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Posted - 2013.09.24 14:47:00 -
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Did I miss a dev blog or are you just making assumptions?
Ahh necro |
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