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Caeli SineDeo
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.08.27 13:15:00 -
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Currently Armor tanks are the way to go if you want to help your team succeed in PC. So I know alot of people who went armor tank just because it was the best choice. Shield tanks really just easy kills.
I know for vehicle users because of this big change coming in alot of them might want to change to shield or armor vice versa. Means you are doing such a big overhaul I feel you should allow for respecing. |
Logi Bro
Greatness Achieved Through Training
EoN.
2116
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Posted - 2013.08.27 13:26:00 -
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While I agree with the respec....since when have shield tanks been easy kills? I can bring Madrugars to their knees with a militia swarm launcher, good luck doing that to a Gunnlogi without dedicated AV. |
Killar-12
The Corporate Raiders
688
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Posted - 2013.08.27 13:30:00 -
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Logi Bro wrote:While I agree with the respec....since when have shield tanks been easy kills? I can bring Madrugars to their knees with a militia swarm launcher, good luck doing that to a Gunnlogi without dedicated AV.
Shield tanks=weak to tanks
armor tanks = weak to AV |
Ansiiis The Trustworthy
WE ARE LEGENDS
266
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Posted - 2013.08.27 13:31:00 -
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Isn't going to happen because everyone will want a respec then. |
Anmol Singh
the unholy legion of darkstar
DARKSTAR ARMY
299
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Posted - 2013.08.27 13:40:00 -
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Logi Bro wrote:While I agree with the respec....since when have shield tanks been easy kills? I can bring Madrugars to their knees with a militia swarm launcher, good luck doing that to a Gunnlogi without dedicated AV.
gunnlogi goes down to a freking soma.. i have done it before... |
Billi Gene
Forty-Nine Fedayeen
Minmatar Republic
353
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Posted - 2013.08.27 13:46:00 -
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from what was written in Wolfman's post, the changes are going to take a while to roll out, they want to monitor each incremental change.
If someone wants to change racial they should start saving now just incase they actually decide to imho >.<
in the end they will be stronger for it, having access to both armor and shield HAV and LAV. If they havent got the the relevant armor/shield skills i feel their pain, my tank alt is currently agonising over skills (sub 5mil SP). |
Takahiro Kashuken
Red Star.
EoN.
1098
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Posted - 2013.08.27 13:52:00 -
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Anmol Singh wrote:Logi Bro wrote:While I agree with the respec....since when have shield tanks been easy kills? I can bring Madrugars to their knees with a militia swarm launcher, good luck doing that to a Gunnlogi without dedicated AV. gunnlogi goes down to a freking soma.. i have done it before...
I used a 600k maddy with a blaster what is basic and took out a lolfalchion at 2.5mil price tag and even then the gunner jumped out and tried to AV nade me to death which did happen but ftaer i got the tank |
Anmol Singh
the unholy legion of darkstar
DARKSTAR ARMY
299
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Posted - 2013.08.27 13:56:00 -
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Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Anmol Singh wrote:Logi Bro wrote:While I agree with the respec....since when have shield tanks been easy kills? I can bring Madrugars to their knees with a militia swarm launcher, good luck doing that to a Gunnlogi without dedicated AV. gunnlogi goes down to a freking soma.. i have done it before... I used a 600k maddy with a blaster what is basic and took out a lolfalchion at 2.5mil price tag and even then the gunner jumped out and tried to AV nade me to death which did happen but ftaer i got the tank
falchion is like a Rolls Royce... nothing special, huge ass tag |
2100 Angels
The Southern Legion
The Umbra Combine
238
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Posted - 2013.08.27 13:57:00 -
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I would imagine that they will do what they do in EVE, and just refund the vehicle points when the changes are made |
demonkiller 12
Seraphim Auxiliaries
132
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Posted - 2013.08.27 13:59:00 -
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Ansiiis The Trustworthy wrote:Isn't going to happen because everyone will want a respec then.
All AV/Vehicle command/Vehicle upgrades/ turret skills refunded to anyone who put SP in them
aka IF YOURE A CAL LOGI WHO WANTS A RESPEC BECAUSE YOU GOT NERFED THEN **** OFF |
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daishi mk03
Brutor Vanguard
Minmatar Republic
121
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Posted - 2013.08.27 14:07:00 -
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It's not a nerf, it's a fundamental change here. Look at the wording. Change <-> Nerf |
ZDub 303
TeamPlayers
EoN.
1859
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Posted - 2013.08.27 14:08:00 -
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I doubt the changes will be substantial enough to warrant a respec. They don't have the necessary infrastructure to do these selective respecs efficiently anyways. So I doubt we'll be seeing respecs anytime soon.
Should we though? Hell yeah! Every time a skill is changed, that skill (and any downstream skills) should be refunded to all players. |
low genius
The Sound Of Freedom
Renegade Alliance
362
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Posted - 2013.08.27 14:21:00 -
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2100 Angels wrote:I would imagine that they will do what they do in EVE, and just refund the vehicle points when the changes are made
if the skills are changed in scope, not when changes are made. |
Caeli SineDeo
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
673
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Posted - 2013.08.27 14:25:00 -
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Logi Bro wrote:While I agree with the respec....since when have shield tanks been easy kills? I can bring Madrugars to their knees with a militia swarm launcher, good luck doing that to a Gunnlogi without dedicated AV.
Armor tanks can have any shield tank drop in on their rear get a few shots off and turn around and kill them. it is pretty LOL. When you have a falcon proto out with best turrets all damage modes drop 3 missile volleys and yet turn around to kill them. Let just say armor tanks all around are the tank to PC in. Even when i have seen the best tankers in shield I have never seen them do well in PC unless against a team lacking the AV or tanks to take them.
These are also big changes maybe people find out that shield tanks have changed so much it is not what they like. while other find armor not to their taste. And see prospect in shield now that they are doing huge changes.
These are huge changes and completely will change gameplay mechanics so I do feel that they might need to look at repec options for vehicles. |
Takahiro Kashuken
Red Star.
EoN.
1098
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Posted - 2013.08.27 14:26:00 -
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ZDub 303 wrote:Just read the dev post, looks pretty detailed in the changes. I'm sure you'll be seeing some sort of partial respec of all vehicle skills. The changes look like they are too detailed to not offer a respec.
Detail?
Where?
All they are sayin a higher PG/CPU and longer cooldowns and ammo for your turrets
The detail is missing, for all we know its going to be a nerf and ******* big one at that |
ZDub 303
TeamPlayers
EoN.
1859
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Posted - 2013.08.27 14:28:00 -
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Takahiro Kashuken wrote:ZDub 303 wrote:Just read the dev post, looks pretty detailed in the changes. I'm sure you'll be seeing some sort of partial respec of all vehicle skills. The changes look like they are too detailed to not offer a respec. Detail? Where? All they are sayin a higher PG/CPU and longer cooldowns and ammo for your turrets The detail is missing, for all we know its going to be a nerf and ******* big one at that
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1226541#post1226541
Always keep an eye on the dev tracker. |
Takahiro Kashuken
Red Star.
EoN.
1098
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Posted - 2013.08.27 14:30:00 -
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ZDub 303 wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:ZDub 303 wrote:Just read the dev post, looks pretty detailed in the changes. I'm sure you'll be seeing some sort of partial respec of all vehicle skills. The changes look like they are too detailed to not offer a respec. Detail? Where? All they are sayin a higher PG/CPU and longer cooldowns and ammo for your turrets The detail is missing, for all we know its going to be a nerf and ******* big one at that https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1226541#post1226541Always keep an eye on the dev tracker.
Thats has no detail
It has words and thats it
No numbers, no examples of what boosters and active resists could be, no nothing , its guess work from the looks of it and we have to guess if vehicles will be useless or not |
Jack McReady
DUST University
Ivy League
400
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Posted - 2013.08.27 14:34:00 -
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there is no respec for whiny tank drivers ...
...which means that no tank driver get one 
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ZDub 303
TeamPlayers
EoN.
1860
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Posted - 2013.08.27 14:36:00 -
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Takahiro Kashuken wrote:ZDub 303 wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:ZDub 303 wrote:Just read the dev post, looks pretty detailed in the changes. I'm sure you'll be seeing some sort of partial respec of all vehicle skills. The changes look like they are too detailed to not offer a respec. Detail? Where? All they are sayin a higher PG/CPU and longer cooldowns and ammo for your turrets The detail is missing, for all we know its going to be a nerf and ******* big one at that https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1226541#post1226541Always keep an eye on the dev tracker. Thats has no detail It has words and thats it No numbers, no examples of what boosters and active resists could be, no nothing , its guess work from the looks of it and we have to guess if vehicles will be useless or not
Honestly, can't expect that much this early in the patch cycle. The fact is, they are changing the way skills unlock modules. That enough will probably warrant a refund in vehicle related SP.
Just be glad they are finally opening up prior to content lock. |
Nguruthos IX
Red and Silver Hand
Amarr Empire
1158
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Posted - 2013.08.27 14:38:00 -
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considering the massive changes to skills coming I dont see how they can avoid giving a respec to vehicle skills.
Its like completely different |
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