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demonkiller 12
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Posted - 2013.08.26 04:34:00 -
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As long as ANY proto AV weapon can 3 hit good tanks they will never be OP Lai Dais (4 in some case) Wyka breach (4 in very few cases) Wyka swarms Ishukone assault forge (if you hit the weak spots)
Thats a 3mil SP alt It could very easily take a 15mil SP tanker shield OR armor |
Void Echo
Echo Galactic Industries
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Posted - 2013.08.26 04:35:00 -
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....what? |
demonkiller 12
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Posted - 2013.08.26 04:36:00 -
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Void Echo wrote:....what? have you not seen all the TANKS OP threads the past 24 hours, ive even seen you on some of them |
Canari Elphus
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Posted - 2013.08.26 04:37:00 -
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If I can 3 hit your non-militia tank with Proto Swarms then you have a crap fit tank. |
Void Echo
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Posted - 2013.08.26 04:38:00 -
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oh..... that, well, they take pride in being good with a weapon literally everyone can use, tankers take pride in being good at a weapon few can use.... I just sit back and enjoy all the COD bias's tears... |
demonkiller 12
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Posted - 2013.08.26 04:39:00 -
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Canari Elphus wrote:If I can 3 hit your non-militia tank with Proto Swarms then you have a crap fit tank. NEVER, my soma is OP |
Lurchasaurus
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Posted - 2013.08.26 04:39:00 -
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Canari Elphus wrote:If I can 3 hit your non-militia tank with Proto Swarms then you have a crap fit tank.
false |
Jason Pearson
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Posted - 2013.08.26 04:39:00 -
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Canari Elphus wrote:If I can 3 hit your non-militia tank with Proto Swarms then you have a crap fit tank.
And if you truly believe that's the case then you're obviously a ******* mong.
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Void Echo
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Posted - 2013.08.26 04:42:00 -
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Canari Elphus wrote:If I can 3 hit your non-militia tank with Proto Swarms then you have a crap fit tank.
prototype AV is far more powerful than advanced tanks, if you don't kill me in 3 shots, you suck at AV. |
Canari Elphus
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Posted - 2013.08.26 04:44:00 -
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Lurchasaurus wrote:Canari Elphus wrote:If I can 3 hit your non-militia tank with Proto Swarms then you have a crap fit tank. false
Oh? Cause I have seen many good tankers able to absorb up to 5-6 rounds and live to tell the tale. This is with me as the only AV user firing at it (no forge or other swarms). And I know for a fact that these are not EHP monsters who just stacked plates with no mods. |
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demonkiller 12
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Posted - 2013.08.26 04:45:00 -
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a single clip of wyka swarms/breach can do about 16k dmg if your tank is fitted to have more than 11k EHP then its a bad fit |
Canari Elphus
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Posted - 2013.08.26 04:48:00 -
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Void Echo wrote:Canari Elphus wrote:If I can 3 hit your non-militia tank with Proto Swarms then you have a crap fit tank. prototype AV is far more powerful than advanced tanks, if you don't kill me in 3 shots, you suck at AV.
First, let me say that I am not of the TANKS R OP crowd. I have said that they are UP since Uprising hit.
This is from actual face to face combat with tanks and not camping in a hill somewhere. I have personally run into a couple tanks that have survived up to 5-6 rounds at very close range before going down.
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Void Echo
Echo Galactic Industries
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Posted - 2013.08.26 04:51:00 -
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Canari Elphus wrote:Void Echo wrote:Canari Elphus wrote:If I can 3 hit your non-militia tank with Proto Swarms then you have a crap fit tank. prototype AV is far more powerful than advanced tanks, if you don't kill me in 3 shots, you suck at AV. First, let me say that I am not of the TANKS R OP crowd. I have said that they are UP since Uprising hit. This is from actual face to face combat with tanks and not camping in a hill somewhere. I have personally run into a couple tanks that have survived up to 5-6 rounds at very close range before going down.
1: they are not scrub tankers 2: they are using resistance mods or armor hardeners or shield resistance place 3: they are getting help from another vehicle and or logi infantry |
demonkiller 12
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Posted - 2013.08.26 04:52:00 -
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Canari Elphus wrote:Void Echo wrote:Canari Elphus wrote:If I can 3 hit your non-militia tank with Proto Swarms then you have a crap fit tank. prototype AV is far more powerful than advanced tanks, if you don't kill me in 3 shots, you suck at AV. First, let me say that I am not of the TANKS R OP crowd. I have said that they are UP since Uprising hit. This is from actual face to face combat with tanks and not camping in a hill somewhere. I have personally run into a couple tanks that have survived up to 5-6 rounds at very close range before going down. not against proto AV user who know what theyre doing like i said at MOST it takes 4 hits if it takes more your tank fit is bad and youre missing some thing you shouldnt be |
Spkr4theDead
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Posted - 2013.08.26 04:55:00 -
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Canari Elphus wrote:If I can 3 hit your non-militia tank with Proto Swarms then you have a crap fit tank. lolno
You're doing > 3000 damage with each volley against armor with plenty of damage mods. One swarm magazine is enough to destroy a tank if it can't rep enough damage back in time. When 1.4 drops, it's > 7000 damage when you reload. |
Spkr4theDead
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Posted - 2013.08.26 04:56:00 -
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Canari Elphus wrote:Lurchasaurus wrote:Canari Elphus wrote:If I can 3 hit your non-militia tank with Proto Swarms then you have a crap fit tank. false Oh? Cause I have seen many good tankers able to absorb up to 5-6 rounds and live to tell the tale. This is with me as the only AV user firing at it (no forge or other swarms). And I know for a fact that these are not EHP monsters who just stacked plates with no mods. So then you expect to solo every tank you launch at. You just said. |
demonkiller 12
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Posted - 2013.08.26 04:59:00 -
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Spkr4theDead wrote:Canari Elphus wrote:Lurchasaurus wrote:Canari Elphus wrote:If I can 3 hit your non-militia tank with Proto Swarms then you have a crap fit tank. false Oh? Cause I have seen many good tankers able to absorb up to 5-6 rounds and live to tell the tale. This is with me as the only AV user firing at it (no forge or other swarms). And I know for a fact that these are not EHP monsters who just stacked plates with no mods. So then you expect to solo every tank you launch at. You just said. i dont think i should be able to solo a good tanker, but i easily can solo the best tankers (no offense) |
Canari Elphus
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Posted - 2013.08.26 05:03:00 -
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Void Echo wrote:Canari Elphus wrote:Void Echo wrote:Canari Elphus wrote:If I can 3 hit your non-militia tank with Proto Swarms then you have a crap fit tank. prototype AV is far more powerful than advanced tanks, if you don't kill me in 3 shots, you suck at AV. First, let me say that I am not of the TANKS R OP crowd. I have said that they are UP since Uprising hit. This is from actual face to face combat with tanks and not camping in a hill somewhere. I have personally run into a couple tanks that have survived up to 5-6 rounds at very close range before going down. 1: they are not scrub tankers 2: they are using resistance mods or armor hardeners or shield resistance place 3: they are getting help from another vehicle and or logi infantry
Example - Agreed though I think it was more of the resistance mods than logi help. At least in the one case I remember.
Typically I only take out swarms to deal with LLAV spamming these days (and dont agree with the swarm buff in 1.4)
Demon - Yes, most standard tanks go down in 4 or 5 volleys
Speaker - lvl 5 prof with 3 damage mods will get you around 2500 damage per proto volley. And yes, I know that I can solo tanks as it is right now and, no, I dont agree with being able to do that. |
Spkr4theDead
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Posted - 2013.08.26 05:11:00 -
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demonkiller 12 wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote:Canari Elphus wrote:Lurchasaurus wrote:Canari Elphus wrote:If I can 3 hit your non-militia tank with Proto Swarms then you have a crap fit tank. false Oh? Cause I have seen many good tankers able to absorb up to 5-6 rounds and live to tell the tale. This is with me as the only AV user firing at it (no forge or other swarms). And I know for a fact that these are not EHP monsters who just stacked plates with no mods. So then you expect to solo every tank you launch at. You just said. i dont think i should be able to solo a good tanker, but i easily can solo the best tankers (no offense) Where are you in that quote? |
Canari Elphus
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Posted - 2013.08.26 05:13:00 -
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BTW - If you dont mind searching for it, I would recommend Charlotte's thread about buffing tanks but diversifying maps as a counter.
the tl;dr of it was that it made tanks the kings of open ground where AV weapons were more used to support a friendly tanker but gave maps infantry only areas around certain (not all) objectives so that tanks would not make infantry pointless. |
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demonkiller 12
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Posted - 2013.08.26 05:14:00 -
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Spkr4theDead wrote: Where are you in that quote?
at the bottom? whoevers name is at the top of a response/qoute is always they last actual response/line of text |
demonkiller 12
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Posted - 2013.08.26 05:18:00 -
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What if AV nades didnt home What if forges did say 20-30% less dmg im totally fine with this What if swarms only fired 1 missile ( doing full volley ) and they didnt lockon - aka RPG We'd see people who ACTUALLY have skill at killing armor, and all the people who depend on lockon missiles that can twist and turn everywhere stop, climb ladders, open doors and then kill a tank throw AVs from 100m and just let the nade home - they will be **** - and AV would be balanced Anyone disagree with this? |
Canari Elphus
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Posted - 2013.08.26 05:23:00 -
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demonkiller 12 wrote:What if AV nades didnt home What if forges did say 20-30% less dmg im totally fine with this What if swarms only fired 1 missile ( doing full volley ) and they didnt lockon - aka RPG We'd see people who ACTUALLY have skill at killing armor, and all the people who depend on lockon missiles that can twist and turn everywhere stop, climb ladders, open doors and then kill a tank throw AVs from 100m and just let the nade home - they will be **** - and AV would be balanced Anyone disagree with this?
Only if you nerfed LAVs to compensate. Again, I have no issue with tanks and the reason most people skilled into proto AV to begin with is because of the stupid LAV spam.
This was the post I had put together a bit ago on Tanks: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1146686#post1146686 |
Spkr4theDead
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Posted - 2013.08.26 05:53:00 -
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Canari Elphus wrote:demonkiller 12 wrote:What if AV nades didnt home What if forges did say 20-30% less dmg im totally fine with this What if swarms only fired 1 missile ( doing full volley ) and they didnt lockon - aka RPG We'd see people who ACTUALLY have skill at killing armor, and all the people who depend on lockon missiles that can twist and turn everywhere stop, climb ladders, open doors and then kill a tank throw AVs from 100m and just let the nade home - they will be **** - and AV would be balanced Anyone disagree with this? Only if you nerfed LAVs to compensate. Again, I have no issue with tanks and the reason most people skilled into proto AV to begin with is because of the stupid LAV spam. This was the post I had put together a bit ago on Tanks: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1146686#post1146686 A non-pilot thinking they know how tanks should be. lolno |
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