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Sarducar Kahn
xCosmic Voidx
The Superpowers
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Posted - 2013.08.24 07:16:00 -
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I think proficiency skills are too powerful, a fully skilled mlt AR probably puts out more DPS than a no proficiency Proto AR. I don't like passive skills much but a 25% damage increase can make anything look OP real fast.
So I don't like the passive and quite cheap +25% EHP much either. What is the point? These skills are what makes higher skill pub stomping so harsh IMO.
And also where are my decent vehicle skill bonuses? I sit here paying more sp to get 1/2/3% bonuses that infantry do to get 5%. And I'm just going to say vehicle electronics skill once |
Dale Templar
Subsonic Synthesis
Alpha Wolf Pack
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Posted - 2013.08.24 10:48:00 -
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15% |
XiBravo
TeamPlayers
EoN.
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Posted - 2013.08.24 10:51:00 -
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And expensive as ****. |
Sgt Kirk
SyNergy Gaming
EoN.
1282
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Posted - 2013.08.24 10:51:00 -
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So in other words you want insta-gratification. |
BL4CKST4R
WarRavens
League of Infamy
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Posted - 2013.08.24 11:15:00 -
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Sarducar Kahn wrote:I think proficiency skills are too powerful, a fully skilled mlt AR probably puts out more DPS than a no proficiency Proto AR. I don't like passive skills much but a 25% damage increase can make anything look OP real fast.
So I don't like the passive and quite cheap +25% EHP much either. What is the point? These skills are what makes higher skill pub stomping so harsh IMO.
And also where are my decent vehicle skill bonuses? I sit here paying more sp to get 1/2/3% bonuses that infantry do to get 5%. And I'm just going to say vehicle electronics skill once
It's 15%, the +25% HP that only applies to base HP so if you have 200 base HP with the bonus maxed you get 50. Also these skills have the highest multipliers, compare the SP to max dropsuit electronics vs vehicle electronics. |
Takahiro Kashuken
Red Star.
EoN.
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Posted - 2013.08.24 11:16:00 -
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Infantry get prof skills
Do vehicle turrets get prof skills? lolno
Quit complaining when you have something that vehicle pilots dont get |
Sarducar Kahn
xCosmic Voidx
The Superpowers
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Posted - 2013.08.24 12:14:00 -
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BL4CKST4R wrote:Sarducar Kahn wrote:I think proficiency skills are too powerful, a fully skilled mlt AR probably puts out more DPS than a no proficiency Proto AR. I don't like passive skills much but a 25% damage increase can make anything look OP real fast.
So I don't like the passive and quite cheap +25% EHP much either. What is the point? These skills are what makes higher skill pub stomping so harsh IMO.
And also where are my decent vehicle skill bonuses? I sit here paying more sp to get 1/2/3% bonuses that infantry do to get 5%. And I'm just going to say vehicle electronics skill once It's 15%, the +25% HP that only applies to base HP so if you have 200 base HP with the bonus maxed you get 50. Also these skills have the highest multipliers, compare the SP to max dropsuit electronics vs vehicle electronics.
I'd take a bigger multiplayer any day if it actually gave me PG. -_- |
RejectedUsername
The Southern Legion
19
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Posted - 2013.08.24 13:25:00 -
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Sarducar Kahn wrote:I think proficiency skills are too powerful, a fully skilled mlt AR probably puts out more DPS than a no proficiency Proto AR. I don't like passive skills much but a 15% damage increase can make anything look OP real fast.
So I don't like the passive and quite cheap +25% EHP much either. What is the point? These skills are what makes higher skill pub stomping so harsh IMO.
And also where are my decent vehicle skill bonuses? I sit here paying more sp to get 1/2/3% bonuses that infantry do to get 5%. And I'm just going to say vehicle electronics skill once
So they work as intended? |
Vrain Matari
ZionTCD
740
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Posted - 2013.08.24 15:05:00 -
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Sarducar Kahn wrote:I think proficiency skills are too powerful, a fully skilled mlt AR probably puts out more DPS than a no proficiency Proto AR. I don't like passive skills much but a 15% damage increase can make anything look OP real fast.
So I don't like the passive and quite cheap +25% EHP much either. What is the point? These skills are what makes higher skill pub stomping so harsh IMO.
And also where are my decent vehicle skill bonuses? I sit here paying more sp to get 1/2/3% bonuses that infantry do to get 5%. And I'm just going to say vehicle electronics skill once
If you couple this kind of thinking (I'm not saying it's wrong) with the flattening of suit rotation speeds you can see DUST is on a slippery slope. The pressure to change it into a mainstream shooter is relentless. |
ZDub 303
TeamPlayers
EoN.
1798
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Posted - 2013.08.24 15:13:00 -
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Its 20% damage increase in std/mlt to pro tier. So no... proficiency 5 on a mlt rifle will not outdamage 0 prof on a pro rifle. |
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Poplo Furuya
Condotta Rouvenor
Gallente Federation
710
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Posted - 2013.08.24 16:07:00 -
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Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Infantry get prof skills
Do vehicle turrets get prof skills? lolno
Quit complaining when you have something that vehicle pilots dont get
...Turret Upgrades for +2% damage per rank? The individual turret skills for +1% per rank? Comes up to 15%.
In other respects vehicles fall behind in comparison but not that one specifically. I guess you might try and wrangle the point that you get 5% of the damage at the expense of an Operation bonus but that's about it.
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Poplo Furuya
Condotta Rouvenor
Gallente Federation
710
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Posted - 2013.08.24 16:12:00 -
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ZDub 303 wrote:Its 20% damage increase in std/mlt to pro tier. So no... proficiency 5 on a mlt rifle will not outdamage 0 prof on a pro rifle.
Depends on weapon... and I think it's 10% for Basic to Proto with ARs? 34 damage to 37.4? Don't use ARs so that could be mistaken.
But yeah, Nova Knives. 90 at Basic, 150 at Advanced, 200 at Proto iirc? Swarm Launchers too, as well as +5% damage each tier they get an extra missile per salvo, jumping them from 1200/1575/1980.
Not everything falls within the same standard progression model. |
Oscar Neymar
Dogz O War
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
4
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Posted - 2013.08.24 16:36:00 -
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Sarducar Kahn wrote:I think proficiency skills are too powerful, a fully skilled mlt AR probably puts out more DPS than a no proficiency Proto AR. I don't like passive skills much but a 15% damage increase can make anything look OP real fast.
So I don't like the passive and quite cheap +25% EHP much either. What is the point? These skills are what makes higher skill pub stomping so harsh IMO.
And also where are my decent vehicle skill bonuses? I sit here paying more sp to get 1/2/3% bonuses that infantry do to get 5%. And I'm just going to say vehicle electronics skill once
But it takes like 1.5m sp's to prof level 5 , so you have earned it ! in my opinion anyway .. look into what your skilling into before you do it , then there really should be no need to moan about anything at all , unless it's changed after you have put skills into what ever
So quit whining |
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