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2100 Angels
The Southern Legion
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Posted - 2013.08.24 03:44:00 -
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1.4 Patchnotes wrote:* Implemented idle timer to prevent AFK farming in battle ground or MCC. Players not performing any PVP action in a certain period of time will be kicked out of the game
What does this mean? What constitutes PVP action? If I'm sitting up in the hills as a sniper, and I don't hit someone for x amount of time, I'm going to get kicked? Or is it just shots fired? Some CCP clarification here would be great, because this has the potential to be a horrible fix |
Skihids
Bullet Cluster
1948
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Posted - 2013.08.24 03:49:00 -
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2100 Angels wrote:1.4 Patchnotes wrote:* Implemented idle timer to prevent AFK farming in battle ground or MCC. Players not performing any PVP action in a certain period of time will be kicked out of the game What does this mean? What constitutes PVP action? If I'm sitting up in the hills as a sniper, and I don't hit someone for x amount of time, I'm going to get kicked? Or is it just shots fired? Some CCP clarification here would be great, because this has the potential to be a horrible fix
If they clarify it and it isn't bullet proof then folks will figure out how to circumvent it before it's even deployed.
Remember that this is going to be an arms race between CCP and a segment of the player base that will run for some time.
There will likely be some collateral damage in the process, but there's been enough of an outcry that they had to do something. |
Blake Kingston
Sinq Laison Gendarmes
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.08.24 05:02:00 -
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If it's not bulletproof then there's no point trying to keep quiet about how it works. Make it bulletproof.
Depends on whether you just have to get a shot near the enemy, as a sniper.
If you haven't gotten a shot in (not saying a kill - a shot) in for awhile, yeah, your almost the same as someone sitting in the MCC. |
Asirius Medaius
Planetary Response Organization
Test Friends Please Ignore
286
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Posted - 2013.08.24 09:40:00 -
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Blake Kingston wrote:If it's not bulletproof then there's no point trying to keep quiet about how it works. Make it bulletproof.
Depends on whether you just have to get a shot near the enemy, as a sniper.
If you haven't gotten a shot in (not saying a kill - a shot) in for awhile, yeah, your almost the same as someone sitting in the MCC.
There will ALWAYS be ways to AFK. CCP is trying to treat the symptom, not the problem. One genuine way to stop it is to make the game entertaining. |
The Robot Devil
Chatelain Rapid Response
Gallente Federation
858
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Posted - 2013.08.24 09:45:00 -
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2100 Angels wrote:1.4 Patchnotes wrote:* Implemented idle timer to prevent AFK farming in battle ground or MCC. Players not performing any PVP action in a certain period of time will be kicked out of the game What does this mean? What constitutes PVP action? If I'm sitting up in the hills as a sniper, and I don't hit someone for x amount of time, I'm going to get kicked? Or is it just shots fired? Some CCP clarification here would be great, because this has the potential to be a horrible fix
For akfers. |
Dovallis Martan JenusKoll
Osmon Surveillance
Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.08.24 09:48:00 -
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Skihids wrote:2100 Angels wrote:1.4 Patchnotes wrote:* Implemented idle timer to prevent AFK farming in battle ground or MCC. Players not performing any PVP action in a certain period of time will be kicked out of the game What does this mean? What constitutes PVP action? If I'm sitting up in the hills as a sniper, and I don't hit someone for x amount of time, I'm going to get kicked? Or is it just shots fired? Some CCP clarification here would be great, because this has the potential to be a horrible fix If they clarify it and it isn't bullet proof then folks will figure out how to circumvent it before it's even deployed. Remember that this is going to be an arms race between CCP and a segment of the player base that will run for some time. There will likely be some collateral damage in the process, but there's been enough of an outcry that they had to do something.
CCP? Race? Uh... In this corner the AFK wonder! And in that corner the Glaciation Response Team.
Who will be the first to move?! It's anyone's game folks! |
The Robot Devil
Chatelain Rapid Response
Gallente Federation
859
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Posted - 2013.08.24 09:52:00 -
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I have played many games and never fired a shot and still was high on the leader board. The algorithm will be more complicated than shots fired. Active PvP can mean a lot of things. Number of times the player manual reloads, damage taken, damage given, distance traveled, shots fired, amount of reps given/received, resupplies, hacks, respawns and suit changes are some off the top of my head. They know the statistics of how often these things happen and can write a codes to weed out afkers. |
Dovallis Martan JenusKoll
Osmon Surveillance
Caldari State
46
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Posted - 2013.08.24 09:58:00 -
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What if I was busy fighting.. But had to put down the controller to answer the door?.. Or the phone? Not everyone has the luxury of blindly playing the game and ignoring all other interactions for life.
Well I'll just have to find out I guess. |
Panther Alpha
DarkWingsss
925
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Posted - 2013.08.24 10:09:00 -
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What is to clarify ?
PvP action = WP / Damage done & received / Kills & Death / revive, repair, resupply & Up-links ... and so on.
Is actually very simple to understand, if you play the game you fine, if you not you get kicked. |
bonkersfox
Foxhound Corporation
General Tso's Alliance
179
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Posted - 2013.08.24 10:13:00 -
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i have visions of ccp marching us out the doors with a pistol in our back, like enemy at the gates, 1 man with ammo and 1 with a weapon, who ever dies the other picks up his ammo/rifle and can get on with the fight.
I think most of the afk goes on in the mcc, I do it myself sometimes, ( I have kids, they cry, I afk for a min )
simple answer would be to turn friendly fire on while in mcc, if you go back to mcc half way threw a game and someone is afking, you can shoot him giving you a kill and him a death, |
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Seymor Krelborn
DUST University
Ivy League
608
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Posted - 2013.08.24 10:24:00 -
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I am hoping they clarify this as well... ive seen a lot of people thinking they understand what CCP means but that's not the same as a dev putting it in black and white for us, obviously if they give a detailed description it will give those who are determined to afk a leg up in figuring a way around this... I would just like a dev to assure us that we aren't gonna kicked as long as over all we have participated regardless of a lull in our active pvp... for instance I know people whos playstyle consists of making sure there are uplinks and hives everywhere but avoid a fight at all costs... people like this are contributing, but has CCP accounted for this type of play? is dropping links and hives that are being spawned and use count as pvp action? |
HandOGod
Taints of Tartarus
99
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Posted - 2013.08.24 10:27:00 -
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Lets see what happens, then start complaining
I agree that if CCP gives details then people will just find a work around |
Django Quik
Dust2Dust.
Top Men.
1318
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Posted - 2013.08.24 10:36:00 -
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I said it in another thread asking about this - I imagine PVP action will include aiming and firing at people and running around, so if you're up in a hill sniping, as long as you're actually doing something and not being one of the many many useless snipers that do nothing in the red line the whole match, you'll probably be fine.
If you're a sniper that doesn't get at least an assist every 2-3 minute, you're contributing nothing to the team and I'd rather you got kicked from the battle. |
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