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Cody Sietz
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Posted - 2013.08.23 19:50:00 -
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Isn't it better to do it now before the vehicle update so it can truly be balanced before vehicles get their buffs?
Its only one month between updates, so if happens that swarms become too effective with this patch, we can provide proper feed back and see how to balance them. |
Torr Wrath
Subdreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2013.08.23 19:52:00 -
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Because they are already taking quite possibly the hands down best av weapon in the game and giving it a huge damage buff..
Right now.
With nothing to protect tanks in the month we have to wait till we get buffed.
Basically.. i would actually like to drive my tank in the next month. No i dont want to wait a whole month to have a chance of doing it. |
Sgt Buttscratch
G I A N T
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Posted - 2013.08.23 19:54:00 -
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shouldn't AV and vehicle changes be tested and released together? |
Cody Sietz
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Posted - 2013.08.23 20:04:00 -
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Sgt Buttscratch wrote:shouldn't AV and vehicle changes be tested and released together?
Yes, but this well help give the devs a idea on how to fix them before the big AV/vehicle update. |
Vrain Matari
ZionTCD
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Posted - 2013.08.23 20:12:00 -
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Sgt Buttscratch wrote:shouldn't AV and vehicle changes be tested and released together?
I can see you point, but there's also a pretty good agrument for controlling variables and not changing too many things at once.
I've been fairly hard on CCP in the past for doing exactly that.
So on this one I'm siding with CCP. Test the new swarms against known vehicles operated by pilots who know those vehicles well. Measure the results and adjust accordingly before next patch. I'm dead certain that Wolfman is going to be paying an obsessive amount of attention to the stats on this one.
Thankfully it's only for a month. |
Mobius Wyvern
Guardian Solutions
DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2013.08.23 20:14:00 -
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Vrain Matari wrote:Sgt Buttscratch wrote:shouldn't AV and vehicle changes be tested and released together? I can see you point, but there's also a pretty good agrument for controlling variables and not changing too many things at once. I've been fairly hard on CCP in the past for doing exactly that. So on this one I'm siding with CCP. Test the new swarms against known vehicles operated by pilots who know those vehicles well. Measure the results and adjust accordingly before next patch. I'm dead certain that Wolfman is going to be paying an obsessive amount of attention to the stats on this one. Thankfully it's only for a month.
ONE MONTH OF TORTURE AND SODOMY!!!!!!111!!!1!1!!1!!!!!!!!11!!! |
Sgt Buttscratch
G I A N T
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Posted - 2013.08.23 20:25:00 -
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Vrain Matari wrote:Sgt Buttscratch wrote:shouldn't AV and vehicle changes be tested and released together? I can see you point, but there's also a pretty good agrument for controlling variables and not changing too many things at once. I've been fairly hard on CCP in the past for doing exactly that. So on this one I'm siding with CCP. Test the new swarms against known vehicles operated by pilots who know those vehicles well. Measure the results and adjust accordingly before next patch. I'm dead certain that Wolfman is going to be paying an obsessive amount of attention to the stats on this one. Thankfully it's only for a month.
but it aint a month, we have been waiting for vehicle fixes since may. Why can't we have vehicle fixes 1.5 and then readjust AV for 1.6...that way AV would only have to wait a month |
Cody Sietz
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Posted - 2013.08.23 20:45:00 -
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Sgt Buttscratch wrote:Vrain Matari wrote:Sgt Buttscratch wrote:shouldn't AV and vehicle changes be tested and released together? I can see you point, but there's also a pretty good agrument for controlling variables and not changing too many things at once. I've been fairly hard on CCP in the past for doing exactly that. So on this one I'm siding with CCP. Test the new swarms against known vehicles operated by pilots who know those vehicles well. Measure the results and adjust accordingly before next patch. I'm dead certain that Wolfman is going to be paying an obsessive amount of attention to the stats on this one. Thankfully it's only for a month. but it aint a month, we have been waiting for vehicle fixes since may. Why can't we have vehicle fixes 1.5 and then readjust AV for 1.6...that way AV would only have to wait a month if you go by that logic, then scouts have been waiting wayyyy longer to be good.
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Vrain Matari
ZionTCD
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Posted - 2013.08.23 20:58:00 -
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Sgt Buttscratch wrote:Vrain Matari wrote:Sgt Buttscratch wrote:shouldn't AV and vehicle changes be tested and released together? I can see you point, but there's also a pretty good agrument for controlling variables and not changing too many things at once. I've been fairly hard on CCP in the past for doing exactly that. So on this one I'm siding with CCP. Test the new swarms against known vehicles operated by pilots who know those vehicles well. Measure the results and adjust accordingly before next patch. I'm dead certain that Wolfman is going to be paying an obsessive amount of attention to the stats on this one. Thankfully it's only for a month. but it aint a month, we have been waiting for vehicle fixes since may. Why can't we have vehicle fixes 1.5 and then readjust AV for 1.6...that way AV would only have to wait a month
Well, the only thing i can think of is that vehicles have been unchanged for a while now and vehicle pilots know them inside out. CCP has a large pile of good data on them and how they did against the current swarms.
When the new swarms come out they'll be able to compare against that big heap of good data and be able to much better to guage things than if they were comparing to only a month's worth of data where everybody was still learning their new vehicles and how to best use the new swarms. |
R'adeh Hunt
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2013.08.23 20:59:00 -
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They're forcing vehicle users to work in TEAMS...which is a great thing. Vehicles shouldn't be solo-pwn mobiles, they should require anti-AV backup.
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