DUST Search - Now would be a great time to start talking about 1.5

Yan Darn wrote:

Zeylon Rho wrote:

Important notion to hold onto right now. If changes to dropsuit role skills are still upcoming, vehicle changes, etc., then posting a draft version of what things are shaping up to be to the forums would be great. It's all about looking ahead, and making choices based on the best available intel.

I'm not really concerned about what's finalized in the patch, since these things can change. The idea of a listing of the proposed adjustments upcoming at 1.5/1.6/etc. would be great. Even if some things slip or change, that's useful knowledge. Will people WHARRRRGARBLLL about it? Of course, but that doesn't mean it isn't useful to the player-base as a whole.

Yes - especially things like draft bonuses. It can be a simple table/list format, just bonus stats. People can look it up and down, spot any glaring OP/up ness; CCP can take from those discussions what they will when they consider solidifying those ideas.

Some people will whine about perceived nerfs/Buffs to their personal favourite/most hated weapons/dropsuits etc. though people already do that...so all it will do is allow productive/helpful members of the community to provide helpful and productive feedback.

If CCP are really worried about 'OMFG they're buffing ARs even more!!!' Or 'why does CCp hate scouts!!!' type threads appearing then:

A) they already exist

B) it is marginally more productive than 'Dust is dead and CCP punched my mom in the ****!'' threads.

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Mobius Wyvern Guardian Solutions DARKSTAR ARMY 3240	Posted - 2013.08.23 15:23:00 - [1] - Quote Again, as CPM Nova Knife stated in the public address, the key thing we're looking for here is communication. As FoxFour's DevBlog on PC enhancements proved, no one gives a **** if the things you talk about are even confirmed, as long as you state they aren't solid, and then give us a vague idea of where you're heading. Right now we're all in the bilges of this massive ship in a hurricane, and can't even tell which way is up because the waves are throwing everything around. All we're asking for is a few lights on the ceiling so we know which way our heads should go.
Zeylon Rho Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 2047	Posted - 2013.08.23 15:50:00 - [2] - Quote Important notion to hold onto right now. If changes to dropsuit role skills are still upcoming, vehicle changes, etc., then posting a draft version of what things are shaping up to be to the forums would be great. It's all about looking ahead, and making choices based on the best available intel. I'm not really concerned about what's finalized in the patch, since these things can change. The idea of a listing of the proposed adjustments upcoming at 1.5/1.6/etc. would be great. Even if some things slip or change, that's useful knowledge. Will people WHARRRRGARBLLL about it? Of course, but that doesn't mean it isn't useful to the player-base as a whole.
Mamertine Son R.E.B.E.L.S 230	Posted - 2013.08.23 15:50:00 - [3] - Quote Allow me to add in another metaphor... Its time to nut up or shut up CCP. like when wolfman mentioned an armor buff about two weeks before the patch notes and sparked a load of heated discussion on the forums. Drop something on us now so we can rail and yell you for it, like 'we're planning to give tanks 1000 plus base shields' or something. Anything to get the debates rolling. Yeah, as a community, we're quite temperamental but please contend with us anyway.
Mobius Wyvern Guardian Solutions DARKSTAR ARMY 3246	Posted - 2013.08.23 16:07:00 - [4] - Quote Mamertine Son wrote: Allow me to add in another metaphor... Its time to nut up or shut up CCP. like when wolfman mentioned an armor buff about two weeks before the patch notes and sparked a load of heated discussion on the forums. Drop something on us now so we can rail and yell you for it, like 'we're planning to give tanks 1000 plus base shields' or something. Anything to get the debates rolling. Yeah, as a community, we're quite temperamental but please contend with us anyway. Well said.
Mobius Wyvern Guardian Solutions DARKSTAR ARMY 3252	Posted - 2013.08.23 16:53:00 - [5] - Quote Bump.
TheAmazing FlyingPig Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 2896	Posted - 2013.08.23 16:59:00 - [6] - Quote Wholeheartedly agreed. This is the perfect time to discuss plans for 1.5 before anything is content locked, so CCP can get reaction from the community and possibly fix something before it is broken.
Cyrius Li-Moody The New Age Outlaws 741	Posted - 2013.08.23 17:01:00 - [7] - Quote I'm hungry for information.
Mobius Wyvern Guardian Solutions DARKSTAR ARMY 3258	Posted - 2013.08.23 17:32:00 - [8] - Quote TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote: Wholeheartedly agreed. This is the perfect time to discuss plans for 1.5 before anything is content locked, so CCP can get reaction from the community and possibly fix something before it is broken. Exactly. Also good to just keep people looking forward rather than getting mired in the present.
Takahiro Kashuken Red Star. EoN. 1008	Posted - 2013.08.23 17:34:00 - [9] - Quote He is my reaction Reverse the swarms buffs
Sete Clifton PSU GHOST SYNDICATE DARKSTAR ARMY 300	Posted - 2013.08.23 17:34:00 - [10] - Quote Should be something about it soon according to Wolfman: CCP Wolfman wrote: We're working away on the vehicles atm. We'll give you guys an overview of what we're doing shortly so you know what's going on. Should be able to give you an update next week. Encountered a small bump in the road yesterday so need to figure that out first since it could change things a bit. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1209401#post1209401
Mobius Wyvern Guardian Solutions DARKSTAR ARMY 3258	Posted - 2013.08.23 17:38:00 - [11] - Quote Sete Clifton wrote: Should be something about it soon according to Wolfman: CCP Wolfman wrote: We're working away on the vehicles atm. We'll give you guys an overview of what we're doing shortly so you know what's going on. CCP Wolfman wrote: Should be able to give you an update next week. Encountered a small bump in the road yesterday so need to figure that out first since it could change things a bit. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1209401#post1209401 Good find! News next week? That's good to hear.
Yan Darn DUST University Ivy League 27	Posted - 2013.08.23 17:46:00 - [12] - Quote Zeylon Rho wrote: Important notion to hold onto right now. If changes to dropsuit role skills are still upcoming, vehicle changes, etc., then posting a draft version of what things are shaping up to be to the forums would be great. It's all about looking ahead, and making choices based on the best available intel. I'm not really concerned about what's finalized in the patch, since these things can change. The idea of a listing of the proposed adjustments upcoming at 1.5/1.6/etc. would be great. Even if some things slip or change, that's useful knowledge. Will people WHARRRRGARBLLL about it? Of course, but that doesn't mean it isn't useful to the player-base as a whole. Yes - especially things like draft bonuses. It can be a simple table/list format, just bonus stats. People can look it up and down, spot any glaring OP/up ness; CCP can take from those discussions what they will when they consider solidifying those ideas. Some people will whine about perceived nerfs/Buffs to their personal favourite/most hated weapons/dropsuits etc. though people already do that...so all it will do is allow productive/helpful members of the community to provide helpful and productive feedback. If CCP are really worried about 'OMFG they're buffing ARs even more!!!' Or 'why does CCp hate scouts!!!' type threads appearing then: A) they already exist B) it is marginally more productive than 'Dust is dead and CCP punched my mom in the ****!'' threads.
Mobius Wyvern Guardian Solutions DARKSTAR ARMY 3263	Posted - 2013.08.23 19:47:00 - [13] - Quote Yan Darn wrote: Zeylon Rho wrote: Important notion to hold onto right now. If changes to dropsuit role skills are still upcoming, vehicle changes, etc., then posting a draft version of what things are shaping up to be to the forums would be great. It's all about looking ahead, and making choices based on the best available intel. I'm not really concerned about what's finalized in the patch, since these things can change. The idea of a listing of the proposed adjustments upcoming at 1.5/1.6/etc. would be great. Even if some things slip or change, that's useful knowledge. Will people WHARRRRGARBLLL about it? Of course, but that doesn't mean it isn't useful to the player-base as a whole. Yes - especially things like draft bonuses. It can be a simple table/list format, just bonus stats. People can look it up and down, spot any glaring OP/up ness; CCP can take from those discussions what they will when they consider solidifying those ideas. Some people will whine about perceived nerfs/Buffs to their personal favourite/most hated weapons/dropsuits etc. though people already do that...so all it will do is allow productive/helpful members of the community to provide helpful and productive feedback. If CCP are really worried about 'OMFG they're buffing ARs even more!!!' Or 'why does CCp hate scouts!!!' type threads appearing then: A) they already exist B) it is marginally more productive than 'Dust is dead and CCP punched my mom in the ****!'' threads. I'd really like a prototype of the suit bonuses as well. This is obviously something that Cat Merc and I have made a few posts about and still have a strong interest in, especially him since he's specced into Gallente suits.

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