Erm...so there are the potential abusers and potentially abused. Who else is there exactly?

bring in FF but flag TK's red.

this would limit the amount of griefing and trolling to be had.

Currently PC has FF and there it is acceptable, the team is usually working towards the same goal.


FF in PUBS? :P only if Team Killers get flagged red to both sides :P ends after a timer, not when you respawn :P


edit:
oh and the timer should be longer than the inactive match boot

If they enable FF in pubs they'll have to punish people for team killing to curb abuse and then the next thing you know we're getting punished because some dingle-berry team member with almost no health runs right into our line of fire. And what if they track it and make it part of the publicly available stats. Now we're forever marked as team killers because of someone else's mistake. Man, fck that noise.

You want to play with FF on all the time, only play PC (and FW if/when they enable it) matches.

Edit: Enabling FF in pubs would completely ruin this game for the majority of players and preventing that is far more important than your precious KDR. Because that's what your post is about; people stealing your kills and messing with your KDR.

I never said FF was about KDR; what I said was OP's post was about his KDR and if you think it isn't you're delusional.

By the way, it's nice how you completely ignored my entire comment before the edit.

I'd like to see if you still feel that way after the first assahat gets a hardon for your proto suit and spends the entire match dedicated to team killing you.

Butthurt much? It's OK, show us on the doll where the big bad proto suit touched you.

Perhaps partial FF - can only drop you to half shields or if you are already below half shields, can only drop you to half armour. Can never be killed by FF, only maimed.

Friendly fire is an interesting mechanic... It does completely change the way you have to play a match and creates interesting strats that aren't viable without it. It also makes OBs more tactical than they are now.

However, putting FF in a match where i'm queueing with strangers? That's the last day I play dust, it would hands down ruin this game. Either people are getting autokicked left and right cause they accidentally grenades some stranger in a MLT suits or people will just kill you for the lulz cause your suit is black colored.

I could totally imagine an assault pissed off the logi isnt repping him and killing him just to teach him a lesson. Or droves of newbs in MLT gear team killing anything they see that looks like it might cost isk or be related to the public perception of FOTM.

No way... FF in pubs would ruin this game.

If you want to play a mode with FF then play in PC.

Sorry man, just cause you're not good enough to participate in PC shouldn't mean you are allowed to team kill everyone who does.

as if that player thinks he's what.. invincible? bring it on... at least i dont have to travel to the enemy teams redlined to get a kill

So here is a question.

What is to stop me from making an alt just purely to run militia suits and TK until I get booted? What is to stop anyone from doing it?

and watch this game die overnight.

There are better ways to address protostomping.

to those with a hardon for the self titled hardcore:

grow up, this isnt about you nor you epeen, this is about the entire playerbase and the very predictable repercussions of allowing FF in pub matches.

You've seen the PS2 bombers at work on the forums?... that is the frame of mind that will ecstatically wallow in the tears of the community as they only join matches to TK and spawn camp. (drop nanohive in an ambush .. feed on tears ...)

If you in any way doubt it, then you need your head checked.

If you think you can counter it, then you will find you and your squad taking your eyes of the match to fight your own team, effectively allowing yourself to get trolled.

The only other option for your so vehemently advocating such an obvious kitten up, would be your plans to TK to the exclusion of the game yourself. I note that you mention a KOS list :P ...


FF in PC, possibly FW, and if we ever get open world, where the only 'team' is corp and alliance.... good luck with TK there :P

grow a brain or use the one you were given...

((lordy its like explaining fingers and food blenders to 3 year olds...))

why are you upset over someone you can just mute?

how will griefing someone regardless of which team they are on improve the community?

will that allow people (like you) to decide who's allowed to play, because lets not mince words, people with influence don't always use it for "good".

if you say something negative about someone will your corp hunt that person down everytime? regardless of any percieved sleight ...and here again lets not mince words... you are talking about Team Killing over flippant comments over chat, from a person you could just mute.

So if that is your reaction why should you have the power to destroy someones game? you with the moral high ground .... killing someone... over WORDS, that you could turn off....

Lets be frank... all that has nothing to do with teaching people to aim better. Nor about tactics.

What you have described is internet bullying.

Hurling insults at literally everyone who disagrees with you...

What a novel way to get the community behind your cause, let me know how that works out for ya.