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Text Grant
Conspiratus Immortalis
Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2013.08.22 06:22:00 -
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Assault swarms are virtually useless because
1 they use more CPU and pg than standard
2 they do less dps than standard if locked onto 2 targets
3 they cost more isk than standard
suggested fixes
1 lower lock on time (perhaps 0.8 instead of 1.2) OR
2 range buff (400 meter lock 500 travel) OR
3 ammo capacity buff (10 instead of 6) OR
4 make the swarms faster |
hello xxx
Osmon Surveillance
Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.08.22 09:05:00 -
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I say make the swarms 2 times faster at least. Maybe the speed of other missiles in game |
Timothy Reaper
WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL
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Posted - 2013.08.22 09:40:00 -
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Sounds good to me. +1 |
Alabastor 'TheBlaster' Alcar
Silver Bullet Solutions
DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2013.08.22 10:17:00 -
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i think its fine the way it is |
Text Grant
Conspiratus Immortalis
Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2013.08.22 10:18:00 -
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Alabastor 'TheBlaster' Alcar wrote:i think its fine the way it is
Do you use it? |
DeadlyAztec11
Max-Pain-inc
Dark Taboo
1960
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Posted - 2013.08.22 10:22:00 -
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Alabastor 'TheBlaster' Alcar wrote:i think its fine the way it is
Have you used it?
It's the most useless feature ever. |
John Demonsbane
Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics
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Posted - 2013.08.22 10:41:00 -
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Yeah, it sounded good in theory, but then I tried them a few times.... Damn things always target some CRU way on the other side of the map in addition to the intended target. Useless. |
daishi mk03
Brutor Vanguard
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.08.22 10:48:00 -
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Set ammo clip to 2.
Make it shoot 2 clips in one aim, either 1 on each locked target or both on the same target, if no other look.
LAV killer. |
KaTaLy5t-87
Shadow Company HQ
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Posted - 2013.08.22 10:58:00 -
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I use swarms and I wouldn't touch the assault variants with a barge pole! I've never had the need to lock two targets at once and I see no point in them being in the game. Maybe change the assault variants to be able to dumb-fire missiles and then they might be some use but other than that I'll never use them |
pegasis prime
BIG BAD W0LVES
Eternal Syndicate
656
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Posted - 2013.08.22 11:03:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Alabastor 'TheBlaster' Alcar wrote:i think its fine the way it is Have you used it? It's the most useless feature ever.
Dude iv mannaged to keep 2 maddys at bay similtaniously with the assault swarmd they do their job and are working as intended.
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Text Grant
Conspiratus Immortalis
Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2013.08.22 11:53:00 -
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daishi mk03 wrote:Set ammo clip to 2.
Make it shoot 2 clips in one aim, either 1 on each locked target or both on the same target, if no other look.
LAV killer.
This I'm also okay with |
Text Grant
Conspiratus Immortalis
Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2013.08.22 11:54:00 -
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KaTaLy5t-87 wrote:I use swarms and I wouldn't touch the assault variants with a barge pole! I've never had the need to lock two targets at once and I see no point in them being in the game. Maybe change the assault variants to be able to dumb-fire missiles and then they might be some use but other than that I'll never use them
Dumb fire missiles have been done and they were OP verses infantry. |
Text Grant
Conspiratus Immortalis
Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2013.08.22 11:57:00 -
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pegasis prime wrote:DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Alabastor 'TheBlaster' Alcar wrote:i think its fine the way it is Have you used it? It's the most useless feature ever. Dude iv mannaged to keep 2 maddys at bay similtaniously with the assault swarmd they do their job and are working as intended.
Try the normal ones. They use less resources. Alternate tanks if you wish. But you are much more likely to kill the tanks firing on them individually. It will raise your DPS. |
Vulpes Dolosus
Neanderthal Nation
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Posted - 2013.08.22 11:59:00 -
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daishi mk03 wrote:Set ammo clip to 2.
Make it shoot 2 clips in one aim, either 1 on each locked target or both on the same target, if no other look.
LAV killer.
Essentially making it twice as strong as a regular swarm? You realize that's 4k damage per volley? My dropship can only take so much!
I agree with two full volleys for two locks, but not two at one. |
Text Grant
Conspiratus Immortalis
Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2013.08.22 12:41:00 -
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Vulpes Dolosus wrote:daishi mk03 wrote:Set ammo clip to 2.
Make it shoot 2 clips in one aim, either 1 on each locked target or both on the same target, if no other look.
LAV killer. Essentially making it twice as strong as a regular swarm? You realize that's 4k damage per volley? My dropship can only take so much! I agree with two full volleys for two locks, but not two at one.
The downside is that it has a clip of 2. So if the first shot doesn't take you out you have time, he has to reload, then lock on again. I think the downs of this outweigh the positive but I'm still okay with it for the fact that it would be useful and different. |
Text Grant
Conspiratus Immortalis
Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2013.08.22 21:19:00 -
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Bump |
Lynn Beck
Granite Mercenary Division
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Posted - 2013.08.22 23:06:00 -
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Text Grant wrote:Vulpes Dolosus wrote:daishi mk03 wrote:Set ammo clip to 2.
Make it shoot 2 clips in one aim, either 1 on each locked target or both on the same target, if no other look.
LAV killer. Essentially making it twice as strong as a regular swarm? You realize that's 4k damage per volley? My dropship can only take so much! I agree with two full volleys for two locks, but not two at one. The downside is that it has a clip of 2. So if the first shot doesn't take you out you have time, he has to reload, then lock on again. I think the downs of this outweigh the positive but I'm still okay with it for the fact that it would be useful and different.
Anf a full fir madrugar only need be hit by2 swarms to be killed. Quit breaking the game. |
Text Grant
Conspiratus Immortalis
Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2013.08.23 00:00:00 -
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Lynn Beck wrote:Text Grant wrote:Vulpes Dolosus wrote:daishi mk03 wrote:Set ammo clip to 2.
Make it shoot 2 clips in one aim, either 1 on each locked target or both on the same target, if no other look.
LAV killer. Essentially making it twice as strong as a regular swarm? You realize that's 4k damage per volley? My dropship can only take so much! I agree with two full volleys for two locks, but not two at one. The downside is that it has a clip of 2. So if the first shot doesn't take you out you have time, he has to reload, then lock on again. I think the downs of this outweigh the positive but I'm still okay with it for the fact that it would be useful and different. Anf a full fir madrugar only need be hit by2 swarms to be killed. Quit breaking the game.
I've hit a madrugar with 46 missiles (8 swarms) and it rolled away. Now post helpful suggestions or cry on your own thread |
Aizen Intiki
Ghost Wolf Industries
Alpha Wolf Pack
496
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Posted - 2013.08.23 01:05:00 -
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Vulpes Dolosus wrote:daishi mk03 wrote:Set ammo clip to 2.
Make it shoot 2 clips in one aim, either 1 on each locked target or both on the same target, if no other look.
LAV killer. Essentially making it twice as strong as a regular swarm? You realize that's 4k damage per volley? My dropship can only take so much! I agree with two full volleys for two locks, but not two at one.
In some cases, it would be 6k+ damage. |
Aizen Intiki
Ghost Wolf Industries
Alpha Wolf Pack
496
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Posted - 2013.08.23 01:06:00 -
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Text Grant wrote:Lynn Beck wrote:Text Grant wrote:Vulpes Dolosus wrote:daishi mk03 wrote:Set ammo clip to 2.
Make it shoot 2 clips in one aim, either 1 on each locked target or both on the same target, if no other look.
LAV killer. Essentially making it twice as strong as a regular swarm? You realize that's 4k damage per volley? My dropship can only take so much! I agree with two full volleys for two locks, but not two at one. The downside is that it has a clip of 2. So if the first shot doesn't take you out you have time, he has to reload, then lock on again. I think the downs of this outweigh the positive but I'm still okay with it for the fact that it would be useful and different. Anf a full fir madrugar only need be hit by2 swarms to be killed. Quit breaking the game. I've hit a madrugar with 46 missiles (8 swarms) and it rolled away. Now post helpful suggestions or cry on your own thread
Those must have been some **** swarms. Were you using STD? Because you need a partner or has to plan it just right for std Swarms to work well. |
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Text Grant
Conspiratus Immortalis
Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2013.08.23 01:10:00 -
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They were avd, and pro. Im pretty sure the tank had 2 reppers hit perfect because we had lured him in and we really didn't expect him to get away. |
Text Grant
Conspiratus Immortalis
Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2013.08.23 04:38:00 -
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Aizen Intiki wrote:Vulpes Dolosus wrote:daishi mk03 wrote:Set ammo clip to 2.
Make it shoot 2 clips in one aim, either 1 on each locked target or both on the same target, if no other look.
LAV killer. Essentially making it twice as strong as a regular swarm? You realize that's 4k damage per volley? My dropship can only take so much! I agree with two full volleys for two locks, but not two at one. In some cases, it would be 6k+ damage.
How??? I got 4.5 k on a proto with 15% worth of damage mods |
Text Grant
Conspiratus Immortalis
Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2013.08.23 08:34:00 -
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Post your favorites, concerns, or viable tactics for an assault. Post your own ideas and I may edit the OP |
excillon
united we stand x
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Posted - 2013.08.23 09:03:00 -
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I wish the swarm had a panic button and could blindfire. Like if a guy is running at you and you're defenseless. Of course, no lock on and reduce the accuracy substantially, but maybe, just maybe once in a while you'd get lucky. |
Text Grant
Conspiratus Immortalis
Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2013.08.23 12:17:00 -
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excillon wrote:I wish the swarm had a panic button and could blindfire. Like if a guy is running at you and you're defenseless. Of course, no lock on and reduce the accuracy substantially, but maybe, just maybe once in a while you'd get lucky.
As I said before... Dumb fire has been proven to be OP verses infantry. Imagine this...
Lvl 5 assault swarm carrier walks in a room full of reds, and empties his clip. 30 missiles fly randomly through the room dealing 330 damage each with splash damage for misses. |
pegasis prime
BIG BAD W0LVES
Eternal Syndicate
659
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Posted - 2013.08.23 16:26:00 -
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Text Grant wrote:pegasis prime wrote:DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Alabastor 'TheBlaster' Alcar wrote:i think its fine the way it is Have you used it? It's the most useless feature ever. Dude iv mannaged to keep 2 maddys at bay similtaniously with the assault swarmd they do their job and are working as intended. Try the normal ones. They use less resources. Alternate tanks if you wish. But you are much more likely to kill the tanks firing on them individually. It will raise your DPS.
I dont allways need to kill a tank when your behind the wheel it can be 100 times mor enfuriating not being able to leave the redline.
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Text Grant
Conspiratus Immortalis
Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2013.08.23 17:07:00 -
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pegasis prime wrote:Text Grant wrote:pegasis prime wrote:DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Alabastor 'TheBlaster' Alcar wrote:i think its fine the way it is Have you used it? It's the most useless feature ever. Dude iv mannaged to keep 2 maddys at bay similtaniously with the assault swarmd they do their job and are working as intended. Try the normal ones. They use less resources. Alternate tanks if you wish. But you are much more likely to kill the tanks firing on them individually. It will raise your DPS. I dont allways need to kill a tank when your behind the wheel it can be 100 times mor enfuriating not being able to leave the redline.
If they decide to kill you this WILL hinder you |
Text Grant
Conspiratus Immortalis
Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2013.08.23 18:57:00 -
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Bump |
Alabastor 'TheBlaster' Alcar
Silver Bullet Solutions
DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2013.08.23 20:08:00 -
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yeah i do use it and its fine, leave it alone |
Text Grant
Conspiratus Immortalis
Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2013.08.24 11:49:00 -
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Bump |
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