As we should all know by now, AV and vehicals are going to be changed in 1.5 and most likely 1.6 and will be changed completly. as evident in this post:



So, im going to go through the whole list of AV weapons in different threads and try to collect a non biased collection of feedback the Devs can use to change vehicals and AV. So remember, what we post here is what they may listen to. Ive started a discussion on Plasma Cannons in this thread: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1145262#post1145262
Also, this link is the AV nade discussion: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&find=unread&t=99452
and finally, the swarm launcher discussion https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=101971 Feel free to throw in your thoughtful and reasonable ideas in ethire.

What are your ideas for Forge Gun rebalance?
Remember to ALWAYS give reasons on your ideas, we dont want to give the DEVs crap to read. Put up a convincing argument!!

Personally, i think the Forgegun is mostly balanced considering we only have standard HAVs vs proto AV. With my experience with the end Chromosome Sagaris (ADV level tank) the Forge has not changed by much and is fairly balanced, the damage output is almost fair, tho it does most likely do a tad too much damage, only by maby 300 points, very minor. However, we do not have anything past standard tanks, tho the weapon in scale is not OP, it is currently OP to standard tanks, standard tanks do not stand up well to proto forge guns, they eat them up within a single clip. This is exactly what should happen, it shouldent take much more than a single clip for a proto forge to kill a standard tank. Sadly we are most deffenetly not getting the additional tanks needed to fix the balance issiue, the proto forge will annihilate our standard level tanks for many months to come untill additional, more powerful vehicals are released. Unless the tanks are getting a monsterious buff, we should temporarily remove the proto forge unitll tanks are strong enough to require proto forge monsters.

However, there is an aspect were the Forge Gun is absurd and too multi purposed. The splash on the forge is okay, it has a balanced strength and blast radius but this splash is abused for holding down objective hacking panels, especially PC. When there is a FG above an objective you simply can not capture the objective, as the splash on the assualt FG kills all hackers. This makes this AV weapon an anti everything weapon, if you are able to kill infaintry it should be a direct hit because it is an anti vehical weapon, it does not need splash to kill vehicals and the idea that it ever did is laughable. This weapon is currently to versatile for an AV weapon, an extreemly effective AV weapon at that. The splash should be removed to define its battlefeild role, it is almost the ultimate tactical weapon when placed above ground, like the flaylock was as a sidearm

Keep making that argument on how Forge Guns are balanced, there... "Flaylock" Steve...

actually he's right. it's a rare situation when there's only one AV weapon pointing a tank or dropship.

Nine times out of ten there's also other dingbats spamming the enemy with militia swarms and forges, giving enough defensive suppression for assault forges and breach to seem like they're cutting through your vehicle like it's made out of tissue paper. Tank on field means everyone and their brother is hunting for the 200-300 WP that it's worth.

Dropships, I think should be able to take three DIRECT assault forge hits at the proto level.

However, Dropship pilots please bear a couple things in mind:

1: Hovering does not help you. Ever.

2: Flying low, and slow in a straight line means it is trivially easy for me to slap you out of the sky. Practice the maneuvering, and shifting directions fast because once the AV has a bead you need to escape.

3: Afterburners are for escaping the range of forges. I encounter vehicles I have to jump in a jeep to chase because they are, in fact, out of my absolute range. Once you get 1/3rd of the map away you are out of range. add some elevation or cover and you are untouchable.