DUST Search - You know what I bet? racial variants won't arrive when promised

KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:

Mobius Wyvern wrote:

KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:

I bet that the content (racial variants of dropsuits, weapons, and vehicles) promised at Fanfest 2013 will not arrive on schedule. They said it would come in the near future (near future was defined as 12 months or less); this means by next Fanfest basically, so we should have the racial weapons (rifles, knives, pistols), racial vehicles (LAVs, HAVs, dropships), and racial dropsuits (missing light and heavy frames) around early May.

How many of you think we will actually have all that stuff by then?

I am almost certain it will be just another big disappointment, like the promise of PVE by 2012 (didn't happen), MTAC mechs by early 2013 (not happening), MCC commanders + deployable installations + 64 player battles promised in 2009 (4 years later, still not here), the 48 player battles promised in 2012 (not happening despite the game is still advertised as 48 player) and EVE players hiring Dust players to fight over their stuff (pretty much the premise of the game, still not happening anytime soon). Prepare yourself for imminent disappointment.

I'm calling it.

Keep in mind that the man who directed Battlefield 2142 was hired to CCP about a month ago, and appears to be occupying CCP Jian's position.

Look at what they've done for 1.4, and what they have planned for 1.5.

I think the time for pessimism may finally be at an end.

None of that is a promised racial variant. I'll stop being pessimistic when i see new weapon, dropsuit, or vehicle models.

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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic 5491	Posted - 2013.08.20 14:20:00 - [1] - Quote I bet that the content (racial variants of dropsuits, weapons, and vehicles) promised at Fanfest 2013 will not arrive on schedule. They said it would come in the near future (near future was defined as 12 months or less); this means by next Fanfest basically, so we should have the racial weapons (rifles, knives, pistols), racial vehicles (LAVs, HAVs, dropships), and racial dropsuits (missing light and heavy frames) around early May. How many of you think we will actually have all that stuff by then? I am almost certain it will be just another big disappointment, like the promise of PVE by 2012 (didn't happen), MTAC mechs by early 2013 (not happening), MCC commanders + deployable installations + 64 player battles promised in 2009 (4 years later, still not here), the 48 player battles promised in 2012 (not happening despite the game is still advertised as 48 player) and EVE players hiring Dust players to fight over their stuff (pretty much the premise of the game, still not happening anytime soon). Prepare yourself for imminent disappointment. I'm calling it.
Necandi Brasil Conspiratus Immortalis Covert Intervention 286	Posted - 2013.08.20 14:23:00 - [2] - Quote Don't be so pessimistic my friend ...
Takahiro Kashuken Red Star. EoN. 936	Posted - 2013.08.20 14:23:00 - [3] - Quote I bet infantry get everything they need by the end of the year Vehicle users will stay ****** for the next year with basic
The Attorney General ZionTCD 709	Posted - 2013.08.20 14:25:00 - [4] - Quote You can only be disappointed if you actually expect CCP to produce anything. I don't expect them to do anything else besides sad balancing passes until the PS4 comes out, at which point I won't give a ****.
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic 5492	Posted - 2013.08.20 14:34:00 - [5] - Quote Necandi Brasil wrote: Don't be so pessimistic my friend ... I'd say given CCP's track record with such promises, being pessimistic and being realistic are the same thing.
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 5805	Posted - 2013.08.20 14:40:00 - [6] - Quote Necandi Brasil wrote: Don't be so pessimistic my friend ... It's actually an educated guess based off of CCPs track record. Being optimistic doesn't make you right, often it just makes you blind with a smile on your face.
Necandi Brasil Conspiratus Immortalis Covert Intervention 286	Posted - 2013.08.20 14:47:00 - [7] - Quote I agree with you both... yes they delivered a product that still don't meet our expectations. One year ago, this game was nearly unplayabe ... We now have something that we can actually enjoy... and don't forget, back them they were really confident that the BETA would be over soon... that was not the case... and, I think it's "easier" to add content now, since we are not in beta anymore... ............. Or maybe I'm being optimistic..........
Poplo Furuya Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation 670	Posted - 2013.08.20 14:56:00 - [8] - Quote CCP promises not being delivered on time (or at all)? The bookies wouldn't give you a high payout for that particular bet.
Seiox Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 16	Posted - 2013.08.20 14:59:00 - [9] - Quote I'm gonna take the line that they're just gonna kinda leave the PS3 version to dust and instead put their efforts into making the PS4 version better. I hope. Is that optimism or pessimism? I guess optimism if you're getting a PS4. Otherwise pessimism.
Cosgar ParagonX 4420	Posted - 2013.08.20 15:02:00 - [10] - Quote Necandi Brasil wrote: I agree with you both... yes they delivered a product that still don't meet our expectations. One year ago, this game was nearly unplayabe ... We now have something that we can actually enjoy... and don't forget, back them they were really confident that the BETA would be over soon... that was not the case... and, I think it's "easier" to add content now, since we are not in beta anymore... ............. Or maybe I'm being optimistic.......... If you were a transformer, your name would be Optimistic Prime.

Poplo Furuya Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation 673	Posted - 2013.08.20 15:20:00 - [11] - Quote Cosgar wrote: Necandi Brasil wrote: I agree with you both... yes they delivered a product that still don't meet our expectations. One year ago, this game was nearly unplayabe ... We now have something that we can actually enjoy... and don't forget, back them they were really confident that the BETA would be over soon... that was not the case... and, I think it's "easier" to add content now, since we are not in beta anymore... ............. Or maybe I'm being optimistic.......... If you were a transformer, your name would be Optimistic Prime. Fighting an unending war with the Truthicons.
THEDRiZZLE Aqua teen Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 80	Posted - 2013.08.20 15:22:00 - [12] - Quote KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: I bet that the content (racial variants of dropsuits, weapons, and vehicles) promised at Fanfest 2013 will not arrive on schedule. They said it would come in the near future (near future was defined as 12 months or less); this means by next Fanfest basically, so we should have the racial weapons (rifles, knives, pistols), racial vehicles (LAVs, HAVs, dropships), and racial dropsuits (missing light and heavy frames) around early May. How many of you think we will actually have all that stuff by then? I am almost certain it will be just another big disappointment, like the promise of PVE by 2012 (didn't happen), MTAC mechs by early 2013 (not happening), MCC commanders + deployable installations + 64 player battles promised in 2009 (4 years later, still not here), the 48 player battles promised in 2012 (not happening despite the game is still advertised as 48 player) and EVE players hiring Dust players to fight over their stuff (pretty much the premise of the game, still not happening anytime soon). Prepare yourself for imminent disappointment. I'm calling it. Im willing to bet with you 20 billion isk they wont
THEDRiZZLE Aqua teen Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 80	Posted - 2013.08.20 15:23:00 - [13] - Quote Necandi Brasil wrote: I agree with you both... yes they delivered a product that still don't meet our expectations. One year ago, this game was nearly unplayabe ... We now have something that we can actually enjoy... and don't forget, back them they were really confident that the BETA would be over soon... that was not the case... and, I think it's "easier" to add content now, since we are not in beta anymore... ............. Or maybe I'm being optimistic.......... Bullsh#t this is a beta still nothing works right idc what ccp says
Stefan Stahl Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 203	Posted - 2013.08.20 15:47:00 - [14] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: Necandi Brasil wrote: Don't be so pessimistic my friend ... It's actually an educated guess based off of CCPs track record. Being optimistic doesn't make you right, often it just makes you blind with a smile on your face. I generally like to chime in on the criticism with snarky remarks about how I imagine work at CCP is being done, but in this instance I'm going to side with CCP. They went out of their way and apparently reallocated all resources they could muster to fix the mess that was Uprising and they will likely be busy with that until 1.6. I think a delay of up to 6 months for major content updates is completely acceptable considering that CCP had to perform unexpected work on pretty much all aspects of the game. Remember, we're getting a complete overhaul of vehicles at the expense of work on infantry items, LogicLoop indicated a lot of work on optimization passes on existing content, all input methods appear to be under review and we'll soon be talking about redoing infantry equipment for the inevitable tiercide. I don't think any of these points where on the roadmap in this magnitude before the presentation at Fanfest.
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic 5599	Posted - 2013.08.30 12:55:00 - [15] - Quote Still counting on it
SILVERBACK 02 SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 194	Posted - 2013.08.30 13:02:00 - [16] - Quote KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: I bet that the content (racial variants of dropsuits, weapons, and vehicles) promised at Fanfest 2013 will not arrive on schedule. They said it would come in the near future (near future was defined as 12 months or less); this means by next Fanfest basically, so we should have the racial weapons (rifles, knives, pistols), racial vehicles (LAVs, HAVs, dropships), and racial dropsuits (missing light and heavy frames) around early May. How many of you think we will actually have all that stuff by then? I am almost certain it will be just another big disappointment, like the promise of PVE by 2012 (didn't happen), MTAC mechs by early 2013 (not happening), MCC commanders + deployable installations + 64 player battles promised in 2009 (4 years later, still not here), the 48 player battles promised in 2012 (not happening despite the game is still advertised as 48 player) and EVE players hiring Dust players to fight over their stuff (pretty much the premise of the game, still not happening anytime soon). Prepare yourself for imminent disappointment. I'm calling it. 1.6 all racial varients are suppose to be released.. thats what they said... it wont happen though just for the fact that its CCP.
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic 5601	Posted - 2013.08.30 14:22:00 - [17] - Quote SILVERBACK 02 wrote: KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: I bet that the content (racial variants of dropsuits, weapons, and vehicles) promised at Fanfest 2013 will not arrive on schedule. They said it would come in the near future (near future was defined as 12 months or less); this means by next Fanfest basically, so we should have the racial weapons (rifles, knives, pistols), racial vehicles (LAVs, HAVs, dropships), and racial dropsuits (missing light and heavy frames) around early May. How many of you think we will actually have all that stuff by then? I am almost certain it will be just another big disappointment, like the promise of PVE by 2012 (didn't happen), MTAC mechs by early 2013 (not happening), MCC commanders + deployable installations + 64 player battles promised in 2009 (4 years later, still not here), the 48 player battles promised in 2012 (not happening despite the game is still advertised as 48 player) and EVE players hiring Dust players to fight over their stuff (pretty much the premise of the game, still not happening anytime soon). Prepare yourself for imminent disappointment. I'm calling it. 1.6 all racial varients are suppose to be released.. thats what they said... it wont happen though just for the fact that its CCP. Can you link the source that claims all racial variants are suppose to be out then?
Nova Knife Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 1854	Posted - 2013.08.30 14:30:00 - [18] - Quote They've given us a rough goal of when they want them out. I can't give you that goal date for obvious reasons... But I think I can get away with saying we should have the racial lineup of existing suit types long before next fanfest :) (Please don't shoot me, IA)
martinofski Rebelles A Quebec Orion Empire 316	Posted - 2013.08.30 14:34:00 - [19] - Quote Is there any racial variant of game modes, because there seems to be missing a few .
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic 5602	Posted - 2013.08.30 14:34:00 - [20] - Quote Nova Knife wrote: They've given us a rough goal of when they want them out. I can't give you that goal date for obvious reasons... But I think I can get away with saying we should have the racial lineup of existing suit types long before next fanfest :) (Please don't shoot me, IA) That is good. I noticed only dropsuits are mentioned though, excluding weapons and vehicles... perhaps it means there is uncertainty regarding if these will also be out by the promised date.

Disturbingly Bored The Strontium Asylum 522	Posted - 2013.08.30 16:39:00 - [21] - Quote Nova Knife wrote: They've given us a rough goal of when they want them out. I can't give you that goal date for obvious reasons... But I think I can get away with saying we should have the racial lineup of existing suit types long before next fanfest :) (Please don't shoot me, IA) I'm going to keep grumbling anyway, but any news is good news at least on the missing dropsuit end. Before next Fanfest... good enough, I suppose. I'm going to have so much friggen SP saved up by the time these things drop, I just may go proto in all 4 Heavy suits.
ZDub 303 TeamPlayers EoN. 1937	Posted - 2013.08.30 16:45:00 - [22] - Quote Honestly... if they don't it shouldn't come as a surprise. Fanfest 2013 was before uprising dropped and they went into crisis mode. They've probably scraped the whole roadmap they had when they presented at Fanfest so they could fix their game.
Mobius Wyvern Guardian Solutions DARKSTAR ARMY 3382	Posted - 2013.08.30 16:51:00 - [23] - Quote KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: I bet that the content (racial variants of dropsuits, weapons, and vehicles) promised at Fanfest 2013 will not arrive on schedule. They said it would come in the near future (near future was defined as 12 months or less); this means by next Fanfest basically, so we should have the racial weapons (rifles, knives, pistols), racial vehicles (LAVs, HAVs, dropships), and racial dropsuits (missing light and heavy frames) around early May. How many of you think we will actually have all that stuff by then? I am almost certain it will be just another big disappointment, like the promise of PVE by 2012 (didn't happen), MTAC mechs by early 2013 (not happening), MCC commanders + deployable installations + 64 player battles promised in 2009 (4 years later, still not here), the 48 player battles promised in 2012 (not happening despite the game is still advertised as 48 player) and EVE players hiring Dust players to fight over their stuff (pretty much the premise of the game, still not happening anytime soon). Prepare yourself for imminent disappointment. I'm calling it. Keep in mind that the man who directed Battlefield 2142 was hired to CCP about a month ago, and appears to be occupying CCP Jian's position. Look at what they've done for 1.4, and what they have planned for 1.5. I think the time for pessimism may finally be at an end.
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic 5606	Posted - 2013.08.30 16:56:00 - [24] - Quote Mobius Wyvern wrote: KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: I bet that the content (racial variants of dropsuits, weapons, and vehicles) promised at Fanfest 2013 will not arrive on schedule. They said it would come in the near future (near future was defined as 12 months or less); this means by next Fanfest basically, so we should have the racial weapons (rifles, knives, pistols), racial vehicles (LAVs, HAVs, dropships), and racial dropsuits (missing light and heavy frames) around early May. How many of you think we will actually have all that stuff by then? I am almost certain it will be just another big disappointment, like the promise of PVE by 2012 (didn't happen), MTAC mechs by early 2013 (not happening), MCC commanders + deployable installations + 64 player battles promised in 2009 (4 years later, still not here), the 48 player battles promised in 2012 (not happening despite the game is still advertised as 48 player) and EVE players hiring Dust players to fight over their stuff (pretty much the premise of the game, still not happening anytime soon). Prepare yourself for imminent disappointment. I'm calling it. Keep in mind that the man who directed Battlefield 2142 was hired to CCP about a month ago, and appears to be occupying CCP Jian's position. Look at what they've done for 1.4, and what they have planned for 1.5. I think the time for pessimism may finally be at an end. None of that is a promised racial variant. I'll stop being pessimistic when i see new weapon, dropsuit, or vehicle models.
Mobius Wyvern Guardian Solutions DARKSTAR ARMY 3382	Posted - 2013.08.30 16:57:00 - [25] - Quote KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: Mobius Wyvern wrote: KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: I bet that the content (racial variants of dropsuits, weapons, and vehicles) promised at Fanfest 2013 will not arrive on schedule. They said it would come in the near future (near future was defined as 12 months or less); this means by next Fanfest basically, so we should have the racial weapons (rifles, knives, pistols), racial vehicles (LAVs, HAVs, dropships), and racial dropsuits (missing light and heavy frames) around early May. How many of you think we will actually have all that stuff by then? I am almost certain it will be just another big disappointment, like the promise of PVE by 2012 (didn't happen), MTAC mechs by early 2013 (not happening), MCC commanders + deployable installations + 64 player battles promised in 2009 (4 years later, still not here), the 48 player battles promised in 2012 (not happening despite the game is still advertised as 48 player) and EVE players hiring Dust players to fight over their stuff (pretty much the premise of the game, still not happening anytime soon). Prepare yourself for imminent disappointment. I'm calling it. Keep in mind that the man who directed Battlefield 2142 was hired to CCP about a month ago, and appears to be occupying CCP Jian's position. Look at what they've done for 1.4, and what they have planned for 1.5. I think the time for pessimism may finally be at an end. None of that is a promised racial variant. I'll stop being pessimistic when i see new weapon, dropsuit, or vehicle models. One of the developers made a post in a thread I used to be Subscribed to about working on "three new toys" that he hoped we'd see soon. He then listed three names that sounded Minmatar, and you'll recall that right now there are 3 types of vehicle for each race. Take from that what you will.
Yan Darn DUST University Ivy League 39	Posted - 2013.08.30 16:58:00 - [26] - Quote The OP's doubt is reasonable (to put it mildly) considering - but while my brain tells me to prepare for the worst - my gut tells me we might see racial content around Xmas. 1.5 October tidy up vehicles (and other fixes) 1.6 November tidy up infantry? (and other fixes/changes based on 1.5 results) December - with ground work set - start introducing new racial variants. Q1/2 2014 introduce PVE/EVE Links. This is under the assumption that part of 1.5 and 1.6 is to lay the ground for tiercide - if they haven't already decided on tiercide by now, then...I dunno.
Mobius Wyvern Guardian Solutions DARKSTAR ARMY 3382	Posted - 2013.08.30 17:03:00 - [27] - Quote I actually found the post I was looking for! https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1196726#post1196726 Notice that this was said by a Dev we've never heard from before.
The Attorney General ZionTCD 811	Posted - 2013.08.30 17:15:00 - [28] - Quote Honestly, I am just getting sick of hearing people talk about whatever particular variant they are waiting for. Yes, I am eager as well to play with my preferred set up(Amarr Pilot/HAV combo) but it isn't going to be here anywhere near where I thought it would be. More importantly, it is now clear that CCP did not intend for that equipment to be here anywhere near this time, and given how the case was presented at fanfest, that is quite unfortunate. It was a blatant overstating of the best case scenario by CCP, and there still has been no change in that regard from the company. I've been involved with this game for long enough to be deeply pessimistic about progress. I don't even have hope that there will be a well balanced infantry game by the time the PS4 launches, or a stable vehicle paradigm before February. Any new content that drops during that time will end up throwing extra variables and noise into the data-mining, and will either be counterproductive, or delayed to prevent it becoming such. Let us not forget that vehicles, with their less than complete line up of options, are being taken back to basics to be rebuilt. I haven't seen anything about it, but I doubt CCP will get the pilot suits sorted fast enough to be useful during the first stages of the vehicle pass.
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI 6372	Posted - 2013.10.03 23:14:00 - [29] - Quote Still betting on it. Almost half a year, and no new racial variants. Nothing coming in 1.5, and nothing coming in 1.6 either.
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 9170	Posted - 2013.10.03 23:16:00 - [30] - Quote Promised? When?



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