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        |  Harpyja
 DUST University
 Ivy League
 
 538
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.08.20 11:21:00 -
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 Why is it that AV weapons get a 50% increase to damage without skills from standard to proto, while infantry weapons receive ~10%?
 
 Nobody really complains too much about proto infantry weapons, while proto AV can simply solo even the best of HAVs. I think the whole AV vs tanks problem (and other vehicles, except for LLAV, but even those pop fast if you get them caught for a few seconds) stems from the fact that AV gets a 50% damage increase from standard to proto.
 
 Infantry would cry OP immediately if Duvolles did 51 damage per shot against 34 damage per shot on regular ARs. So why can't vehicles do the same? What makes you believe that AV should get 50% damage boost while vehicles stay at the same level?
 
 If AV gets a 50% damage boost, then proto vehicles should have 50% more health over standard vehicles... after fitting modules.
 
 But if proto AV did only 10% more damage than standard AV, I think all the AV vs vehicle problems would magically disappear! But of course, nerf those LAVs so that you can still kill them as effectively.
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        |  Zeylon Rho
 Subdreddit
 Test Alliance Please Ignore
 
 1944
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.08.20 11:22:00 -
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 Harpyja wrote:Why is it that AV weapons get a 50% increase to damage without skills from standard to proto, while infantry weapons receive ~10%?
 Nobody really complains too much about proto infantry weapons, while proto AV can simply solo even the best of HAVs. I think the whole AV vs tanks problem (and other vehicles, except for LLAV, but even those pop fast if you get them caught for a few seconds) stems from the fact that AV gets a 50% damage increase from standard to proto.
 
 Infantry would cry OP immediately if Duvolles did 51 damage per shot against 34 damage per shot on regular ARs. So why can't vehicles do the same? What makes you believe that AV should get 50% damage boost while vehicles stay at the same level?
 
 If AV gets a 50% damage boost, then proto vehicles should have 50% more health over standard vehicles... after fitting modules.
 
 But if proto AV did only 10% more damage than standard AV, I think all the AV vs vehicle problems would magically disappear! But of course, nerf those LAVs so that you can still kill them as effectively.
 
 I really want to see those PRO vehicles. I find myself wondering if they'll go black and red-glowy on them as well.
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        |  Takahiro Kashuken
 Red Star.
 EoN.
 
 933
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.08.20 11:45:00 -
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 50% more health **** ye id take that
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        |  MarasdF Loron
 Ghost Wolf Industries
 Alpha Wolf Pack
 
 50
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.08.20 11:48:00 -
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 I believe CCP's reasoning behind this is that good tanks can have roughly 200% more health in comparison to militia tanks.
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        |  Ninjanomyx
 Imperfects
 Negative-Feedback
 
 249
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.08.20 11:51:00 -
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 MarasdF Loron wrote:I believe CCP's reasoning behind this is that good tanks can have roughly 200% more health in comparison to militia tanks. 
 So can Dropsuits.....but what do I know??? Power Creep FTW!!!
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        |  Racro 01 Arifistan
 The Surrogates Of War
 
 22
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.08.20 12:12:00 -
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 Zeylon Rho wrote:Harpyja wrote:Why is it that AV weapons get a 50% increase to damage without skills from standard to proto, while infantry weapons receive ~10%?
 Nobody really complains too much about proto infantry weapons, while proto AV can simply solo even the best of HAVs. I think the whole AV vs tanks problem (and other vehicles, except for LLAV, but even those pop fast if you get them caught for a few seconds) stems from the fact that AV gets a 50% damage increase from standard to proto.
 
 Infantry would cry OP immediately if Duvolles did 51 damage per shot against 34 damage per shot on regular ARs. So why can't vehicles do the same? What makes you believe that AV should get 50% damage boost while vehicles stay at the same level?
 
 If AV gets a 50% damage boost, then proto vehicles should have 50% more health over standard vehicles... after fitting modules.
 
 But if proto AV did only 10% more damage than standard AV, I think all the AV vs vehicle problems would magically disappear! But of course, nerf those LAVs so that you can still kill them as effectively.
 I really want to see those PRO vehicles. I find myself wondering if they'll go black and red-glowy on them as well. 
 imagaine the fear m,y proto madrugar would install among my enemys
  i so wanna see a madrugar driving those colours | 
      
      
        |  MarasdF Loron
 Ghost Wolf Industries
 Alpha Wolf Pack
 
 50
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.08.20 12:13:00 -
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 Ninjanomyx wrote:MarasdF Loron wrote:I believe CCP's reasoning behind this is that good tanks can have roughly 200% more health in comparison to militia tanks. So can Dropsuits.....but what do I know??? Power Creep FTW!!!   Well, I never said it made sense though... but oh well, it's CCP....
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        |  Kekklian Noobatronic
 Goonfeet
 Top Men.
 
 306
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.08.20 12:53:00 -
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 OP: I consider myself one of the deadliest, and likely most outspoken AVers out there, and I have to disagree. "The best HAVs"(and consequently, the best HAV drivers) as you put it are NOT so easily soloable. If anything, they're impossible to solo, barring a major mistake on their part. So please. Until you become a competent AVer(Or tank driver), please do us all a favor.
 
 Shut up.
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