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Jason Pearson Seraphim Auxiliaries 2589	Posted - 2013.08.19 10:20:00 - [1] - Quote So, I got my Officers Forge because I don't want to be the guy who criticizes something without using it (There's a free tip for AVers right there) and it's a beast gun, I kill more than I do in my tank hehe. I've killed quite a few tanks now, too many dropships and and evens a few Charybdis LLAVs (Problem with the guys who can't hit it is they're using an Assault rather than a normal one.) So the point of my thread isn't which wins or what's OP but rather ISK. I am a team player when it comes to Blaster Tanks (If there's a good mountain then ** yourself I'm hiding up there with a rail) so I regularly rush with Infantry and get killed due to it, I don't enjoy hiding really and want to support my team, my reward is blue dots that sit inside my tank or just run past AVers, and when I try to recall they won't get out or they have the audacity to steal it, so I lose quite a large chunk of ISK. When we got our item refunds, I started DUST with around 350 Million ISK, I have lost well over that. My Corporation supported my awful habit in PC, every tank I lost I was covered for. I've fought around 300 battles (Probably more) and I lost 1-3 Tanks every battle, my tanks cost between 800k-1.4m, so very easily another 300million ISK minimum lost I've maintained my KDR around 7.10. I spent the last of my ISK on buying a spare rail tank the other day to allow me easy kills on Vehicles, I have a stock of 50 Charybdis LLAVs (I run scrubs over and rep tanks, come at me.) Now I run an Advanced Heavy with all Militia Modules minus the Damage Mods which are complex, I use a Kaalakiota Forge Gun, the fit costs 68,035 ISK, (Just to make it clear, if I die 10 times, I will still not lose as much ISK as a single one of my cheaper tanks would) The best thing about this forge? My KDR is still going up, it's at 7.21 (from 7.10) and I started with 0 ISK, I'm up to 5 Mil in a single day, woohoo. King of the Forums // Seraphim <3 Comment and like this thread about PvE, Here! Also, check out the Indirect Fire ability, Here! gbghg wrote:** CCP Rejavik CCP Shanghia Same company different studios, one has near perfected the player feedback process, the other is still rolling on the floor after it fell over its first baby step.
daishi mk03 Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic 68	Posted - 2013.08.19 10:23:00 - [2] - Quote What is the statement of your post? Everything you say sounds reasonable and true.
Lorhak Gannarsein DUST University Ivy League 169	Posted - 2013.08.19 10:23:00 - [3] - Quote You're making me want to spec into forge guns :( I had neither a massive stockpile of ISK from Chromo (70M) or a corp that pays for me.
Jason Pearson Seraphim Auxiliaries 2589	Posted - 2013.08.19 10:24:00 - [4] - Quote daishi mk03 wrote: What is the statement of your post? Everything you say sounds reasonable and true. Oh right, I make more money as a Forge and raise my KDR easier with it. People say Tanking is a crutch.. lol Again, not saying the Forge Gun is OP but it's definitely a lot more fun than a Tank. King of the Forums // Seraphim <3 Comment and like this thread about PvE, Here! Also, check out the Indirect Fire ability, Here! gbghg wrote: CCP Rejavik CCP Shanghia Same company different studios, one has near perfected the player feedback process, the other is still rolling on the floor after it fell over its first baby step.
daishi mk03 Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic 68	Posted - 2013.08.19 10:29:00 - [5] - Quote I only have a Militia forge fit, but yeah, it's fun. Insta killing all those guys, need 4 shots for a gunnlogi. Still, love my railgun madrugar over all <3
Captain-Awesome Ancient Exiles 478	Posted - 2013.08.19 10:33:00 - [6] - Quote yeah forge is really satisfying, still a ***** on militiary though, I like the standard forge from the other variants, but last time I used it, it was very difficult against infantry.
Takahiro Kashuken Red Star. EoN. 895	Posted - 2013.08.19 10:40:00 - [7] - Quote FG is better at killing infantry and vehicles than an actual vehicle is No suprise
daishi mk03 Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic 68	Posted - 2013.08.19 10:45:00 - [8] - Quote Never went XX/0 with an infantry fit, where XX is really high. Only tanks do this.
ChromeBreaker SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 1027	Posted - 2013.08.19 10:52:00 - [9] - Quote FYI... there is no monetary value for officer weapons... If you were able to sell and/or buy them on the market... expect them to go for many millions of isk... easily surpassing the cost of any current tanks.
Jason Pearson Seraphim Auxiliaries 2590	Posted - 2013.08.19 10:55:00 - [10] - Quote ChromeBreaker wrote: fyi... there is no monetary value for officer weapons... If you were able to sell and/or buy them on the market... expect them to go for many millions of isk... easilly suppasing the cost of any current tanks I said my fit was a Kaalakiota, I was mentioning that I had unlocked Officer Forges so that people can't come to me and say "Nah you don't know what it's really like to Forge". King of the Forums // Seraphim <3 Comment and like this thread about PvE, Here! Also, check out the Indirect Fire ability, Here! gbghg wrote: CCP Rejavik CCP Shanghia Same company different studios, one has near perfected the player feedback process, the other is still rolling on the floor after it fell over its first baby step.

Jason Pearson Seraphim Auxiliaries 2590	Posted - 2013.08.19 10:56:00 - [11] - Quote daishi mk03 wrote: Never went XX/0 with an infantry fit, where XX is really high. Only tanks do this. Regularly going XX/0, 28/0 yesterday and if you give me a tower and some nanohives? Oh that poor enemy team. King of the Forums // Seraphim <3 Comment and like this thread about PvE, Here! Also, check out the Indirect Fire ability, Here! gbghg wrote: CCP Rejavik CCP Shanghia Same company different studios, one has near perfected the player feedback process, the other is still rolling on the floor after it fell over its first baby step.
Keri Starlight Psygod9 116	Posted - 2013.08.19 11:18:00 - [12] - Quote Tank vs Forge Gun is the most ridicolously unbalanced match possible in this game. FG is easy to use, HAV are not; FG costs few ISK, HAV do not; FG won't even render properly to the HAV driver if 100m away, leaving the poor guy just the time to say something like "OH GOD, NO, NOT AGAIN..." A single man with an Ishukone Forge Gun on a tower is an area denial weapon for tanks across the whole map. Fact. People still using Tanks actively are masochists or just stupid. I am stupid. Even if you love Tanks really much, just like me, don't be that stupid. Get your FG today!
pegasis prime BIG BAD W0LVES Eternal Syndicate 647	Posted - 2013.08.19 11:42:00 - [13] - Quote Jason iv been poping your tanks with a forge for a few builds now and youve only just caught on . Get a good spot and rain hell with the wyoming breech. Iv been running forge for at least 3 builds and in previous builds it felt like I was the only one and now theres hundres of forgy bastards out there.
DS 10 Pure Innocence. EoN. 724	Posted - 2013.08.19 13:32:00 - [14] - Quote What are your FG skills at? The experience only gets better the more SP you throw into it. I have about 5 mil alone in my FG. I agree with your statement about Assault variants making taking LAVs out a lot more difficult. I also agree with your price comparison to an extent. I do agree that tanks and dropships cost too much ISK for how weak they are at the moment. I understand though why tanks cost should cost 2-3 games worth of ISK though and Forge Guns should not. Tanks only have a few select weapons that are a threat. Any weapon can take out an AV player, especially tanks. You may have 2 guys gunning for you. I have 16. That doesn't mean I agree with the price disparity between tanks/dropships and AV weapons. Reduce the price or strengthen vehicles. Plus, I'm tired of all this FG nerf talk.
CommanderBolt A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. 175	Posted - 2013.08.19 13:38:00 - [15] - Quote Keri Starlight wrote: Tank vs Forge Gun is the most ridicolously unbalanced match possible in this game. FG is easy to use, HAV are not; FG costs few ISK, HAV do not; FG won't even render properly to the HAV driver if 100m away, leaving the poor guy just the time to say something like "OH GOD, NO, NOT AGAIN..." A single man with an Ishukone Forge Gun on a tower is an area denial weapon for tanks across the whole map. Fact. People still using Tanks actively are masochists or just stupid. I am stupid. Even if you love Tanks really much, just like me, don't be that stupid. Get your FG today! You know I wouldn't even mind if there was some damn ladders or a staircase to go up there and get him! That would still leave the mystery of "Ok we know we have a forge'er up high, but which building is he on?" Currently the only way is to use a dropship. I think that's bad level design. Unless this is working as intended.
NAV HIV The Generals EoN. 335	Posted - 2013.08.19 13:51:00 - [16] - Quote Going after Gunlogis every time i see one with a MD and flux nades. It's shameful how easy it is to kill a shield tank with just a MD
The Attorney General ZionTCD 706	Posted - 2013.08.19 13:58:00 - [17] - Quote I have a heavy alt from the start of open beta, specced completely into FG's and the basic heavy frame to maximize them. Maxed Core skills, SMG prof 4, proto grenades, great toon, but darn it if those three fits are not worth one of my current pub blaster tanks. Can one of those suits pop my tank? Of course, if I were attacking my own tank I would just pull up behind, do the harlem shake with my grenades, and then shoot him in the ass to watch him burn. Shield tanks get it even worse, as they have almost no chance against a volley of allotek flux grenades.


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