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Princeps Marcellus
Expert Intervention Caldari State
155
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Posted - 2013.08.18 22:47:00 -
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Here, have a chart.
65-85 is where you will dominate with a laser rifle. And I mean dominate with an LR. The problem that I've found is that it is living hell trying to find a situation where someone is a) gullible enough to run into the open when they know an enemy with a laser rifle is out there b) part of a rare mid-range sniper nest c) willing to engage you at 65-85m with whatever weapon they happen to be armed with or d) close enough to dying that it doesn't matter that they're a bit too far or to close to be in your optimal range.
There are a few rules you have to keep in mind when attempting to dominate with the LR. 1.) I know you will be tempted, but do not listen to the urge to engage in a scrambler pistol duel with the enemy when they get close. If they know you're coming, it won't work out well for you. 2.) If you're attempting to engage in the open, watch the kill feed for sniper kills. You rate the danger based on how many people are killed by snipers. 3.) GET THE AMARR ASSAULT SUIT. Or, at the very least, the skills for it. You /will/ overheat a lot. Having some extra breathing room that the 5% decrease to overheat per level provides is absolutely wonderful. 4.) When you can, find cover. A hill, a wall, a building; anything at all. This is a rule with all weapons. You should know this by now! 5.) When you have cover, use it to charge up your Laser Rifle. Not "charge up" in the way that SCRs use it. I mean that you should actually fire against the wall and keep firing when you pop out of cover because the longer you hold down the "fire" button, the more it'll hurt the enemy. If you ever let go of the fire button, all that heat you built up will count for nothing. 6.) This will change with the introduction of the scope for the LR, but while the the iron sights are here, use them to judge distance. If an enemy's body doesn't fit inside your iron-sights, run the **** away. If they fit perfectly within your iron-sights, then they are within a decent range, and you should be able to kill them if they aren't looking in your direction. 7.) If you hear gunfire, don not approach. Run sideways if you're at a good distance. Run away if you're too close. Or stay low if you're in a good position. Put down nanohives. Droplinks.
This will be the section where I talk about the negatives of the laser rifle. There are so many weird caveats with the Laser Rifle that the description on the weapon (when you triangle it from the marketplace) doesn't warn you about. For example, that the damage of the weapon is based on how long you're firing it. That overheats hurt you. That there is a veryspecific range within which it is useful. Beyond that, I feel like there aren't enough situations in which it is useful to justify using it regularly. Especially not in Ambush, where situations have a tendency to be uncontrollable *coughcoughspawnsystemcough* It's a fantastically fun weapon to use when you can control the situation, but too often you will be unable to find that perfect range to get people from.
I'd like people who have more experience with the laser rifle, scrambler rifles, and tactical assault rifles to compare and contrast. I'm too tired right now. |
Nocturnal Soul
Immortal Retribution
465
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Posted - 2013.08.18 22:51:00 -
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Shush you fool you know not what you speak of the LR is the worst weapon in the game even the plasma canon is better then this piece of trash CCP calls a weapon |
Melchiah ARANeAE
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
14
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Posted - 2013.08.18 22:58:00 -
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Nocturnal Soul wrote:Shush you fool you know not what you speak of the LR is the worst weapon in the game even the plasma canon is better then this piece of trash CCP calls a weapon
I'll have you know that the LR Is actually a good weapon in some circumstances. The plasma cannon never is. They're both fun to use though. :P |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1342
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Posted - 2013.08.18 23:13:00 -
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Princeps Marcellus wrote:Here, have a chart. 65-85 is where you will dominate with a laser rifle. And I mean dominate with an LR. The problem that I've found is that it is living hell trying to find a situation where someone is a) gullible enough to run into the open when they know an enemy with a laser rifle is out there b) part of a rare mid-range sniper nest c) willing to engage you at 65-85m with whatever weapon they happen to be armed with or d) close enough to dying that it doesn't matter that they're a bit too far or to close to be in your optimal range. There are a few rules you have to keep in mind when attempting to dominate with the LR. 1.) I know you will be tempted, but do not listen to the urge to engage in a scrambler pistol duel with the enemy when they get close. If they know you're coming, it won't work out well for you. 2.) If you're attempting to engage in the open, watch the kill feed for sniper kills. You rate the danger based on how many people are killed by snipers. 3.) GET THE AMARR ASSAULT SUIT. Or, at the very least, the skills for it. You /will/ overheat a lot. Having some extra breathing room that the 5% decrease to overheat per level provides is absolutely wonderful. 4.) When you can, find cover. A hill, a wall, a building; anything at all. This is a rule with all weapons. You should know this by now! 5.) When you have cover, use it to charge up your Laser Rifle. Not "charge up" in the way that SCRs use it. I mean that you should actually fire against the wall and keep firing when you pop out of cover because the longer you hold down the "fire" button, the more it'll hurt the enemy. If you ever let go of the fire button, all that heat you built up will count for nothing. 6.) This will change with the introduction of the scope for the LR, but while the the iron sights are here, use them to judge distance. If an enemy's body doesn't fit inside your iron-sights, run the **** away. If they fit perfectly within your iron-sights, then they are within a decent range, and you should be able to kill them if they aren't looking in your direction. 7.) If you hear gunfire, don not approach. Run sideways if you're at a good distance. Run away if you're too close. Or stay low if you're in a good position. Put down nanohives. Droplinks. This will be the section where I talk about the negatives of the laser rifle. There are so many weird caveats with the Laser Rifle that the description on the weapon (when you triangle it from the marketplace) doesn't warn you about. For example, that the damage of the weapon is based on how long you're firing it. That overheats hurt you. That there is a veryspecific range within which it is useful. Beyond that, I feel like there aren't enough situations in which it is useful to justify using it regularly. Especially not in Ambush, where situations have a tendency to be uncontrollable *coughcoughspawnsystemcough* It's a fantastically fun weapon to use when you can control the situation, but too often you will be unable to find that perfect range to get people from. I'd like people who have more experience with the laser rifle, scrambler rifles, and tactical assault rifles to compare and contrast. I'm too tired right now.
Why would you tell this horrible ass community that a good weapon is good? They'll just ***** and moan for weeks until it gets nerfed.... |
Nocturnal Soul
Immortal Retribution
466
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Posted - 2013.08.18 23:22:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Princeps Marcellus wrote:Here, have a chart. 65-85 is where you will dominate with a laser rifle. And I mean dominate with an LR. The problem that I've found is that it is living hell trying to find a situation where someone is a) gullible enough to run into the open when they know an enemy with a laser rifle is out there b) part of a rare mid-range sniper nest c) willing to engage you at 65-85m with whatever weapon they happen to be armed with or d) close enough to dying that it doesn't matter that they're a bit too far or to close to be in your optimal range. There are a few rules you have to keep in mind when attempting to dominate with the LR. 1.) I know you will be tempted, but do not listen to the urge to engage in a scrambler pistol duel with the enemy when they get close. If they know you're coming, it won't work out well for you. 2.) If you're attempting to engage in the open, watch the kill feed for sniper kills. You rate the danger based on how many people are killed by snipers. 3.) GET THE AMARR ASSAULT SUIT. Or, at the very least, the skills for it. You /will/ overheat a lot. Having some extra breathing room that the 5% decrease to overheat per level provides is absolutely wonderful. 4.) When you can, find cover. A hill, a wall, a building; anything at all. This is a rule with all weapons. You should know this by now! 5.) When you have cover, use it to charge up your Laser Rifle. Not "charge up" in the way that SCRs use it. I mean that you should actually fire against the wall and keep firing when you pop out of cover because the longer you hold down the "fire" button, the more it'll hurt the enemy. If you ever let go of the fire button, all that heat you built up will count for nothing. 6.) This will change with the introduction of the scope for the LR, but while the the iron sights are here, use them to judge distance. If an enemy's body doesn't fit inside your iron-sights, run the **** away. If they fit perfectly within your iron-sights, then they are within a decent range, and you should be able to kill them if they aren't looking in your direction. 7.) If you hear gunfire, don not approach. Run sideways if you're at a good distance. Run away if you're too close. Or stay low if you're in a good position. Put down nanohives. Droplinks. This will be the section where I talk about the negatives of the laser rifle. There are so many weird caveats with the Laser Rifle that the description on the weapon (when you triangle it from the marketplace) doesn't warn you about. For example, that the damage of the weapon is based on how long you're firing it. That overheats hurt you. That there is a veryspecific range within which it is useful. Beyond that, I feel like there aren't enough situations in which it is useful to justify using it regularly. Especially not in Ambush, where situations have a tendency to be uncontrollable *coughcoughspawnsystemcough* It's a fantastically fun weapon to use when you can control the situation, but too often you will be unable to find that perfect range to get people from. I'd like people who have more experience with the laser rifle, scrambler rifles, and tactical assault rifles to compare and contrast. I'm too tired right now. Why would you tell this horrible ass community that a good weapon is good? They'll just ***** and moan for weeks until it gets nerfed.... see this is actually the reason i said that in a previous post |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1342
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Posted - 2013.08.18 23:23:00 -
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Nocturnal Soul wrote:True Adamance wrote:Princeps Marcellus wrote:Here, have a chart. 65-85 is where you will dominate with a laser rifle. And I mean dominate with an LR. The problem that I've found is that it is living hell trying to find a situation where someone is a) gullible enough to run into the open when they know an enemy with a laser rifle is out there b) part of a rare mid-range sniper nest c) willing to engage you at 65-85m with whatever weapon they happen to be armed with or d) close enough to dying that it doesn't matter that they're a bit too far or to close to be in your optimal range. There are a few rules you have to keep in mind when attempting to dominate with the LR. 1.) I know you will be tempted, but do not listen to the urge to engage in a scrambler pistol duel with the enemy when they get close. If they know you're coming, it won't work out well for you. 2.) If you're attempting to engage in the open, watch the kill feed for sniper kills. You rate the danger based on how many people are killed by snipers. 3.) GET THE AMARR ASSAULT SUIT. Or, at the very least, the skills for it. You /will/ overheat a lot. Having some extra breathing room that the 5% decrease to overheat per level provides is absolutely wonderful. 4.) When you can, find cover. A hill, a wall, a building; anything at all. This is a rule with all weapons. You should know this by now! 5.) When you have cover, use it to charge up your Laser Rifle. Not "charge up" in the way that SCRs use it. I mean that you should actually fire against the wall and keep firing when you pop out of cover because the longer you hold down the "fire" button, the more it'll hurt the enemy. If you ever let go of the fire button, all that heat you built up will count for nothing. 6.) This will change with the introduction of the scope for the LR, but while the the iron sights are here, use them to judge distance. If an enemy's body doesn't fit inside your iron-sights, run the **** away. If they fit perfectly within your iron-sights, then they are within a decent range, and you should be able to kill them if they aren't looking in your direction. 7.) If you hear gunfire, don not approach. Run sideways if you're at a good distance. Run away if you're too close. Or stay low if you're in a good position. Put down nanohives. Droplinks. This will be the section where I talk about the negatives of the laser rifle. There are so many weird caveats with the Laser Rifle that the description on the weapon (when you triangle it from the marketplace) doesn't warn you about. For example, that the damage of the weapon is based on how long you're firing it. That overheats hurt you. That there is a veryspecific range within which it is useful. Beyond that, I feel like there aren't enough situations in which it is useful to justify using it regularly. Especially not in Ambush, where situations have a tendency to be uncontrollable *coughcoughspawnsystemcough* It's a fantastically fun weapon to use when you can control the situation, but too often you will be unable to find that perfect range to get people from. I'd like people who have more experience with the laser rifle, scrambler rifles, and tactical assault rifles to compare and contrast. I'm too tired right now. Why would you tell this horrible ass community that a good weapon is good? They'll just ***** and moan for weeks until it gets nerfed.... see this is actually the reason i said that in a previous post
I'm going to miss the times when Amarrian weaponry was only used by those who were good with it and not by every **** head wanting to get the most kills, or spam it, or generally try to make it fotm..... |
Zero Harpuia
WarRavens League of Infamy
664
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Posted - 2013.08.18 23:33:00 -
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I love the LR, and it was sad the day they nerfed it. By which I mean added that stupid sight, not the damage nerf. People don't understand that the gun is the only one in the game that does more damage the farther the target is, not closer, so most don't understand how to work it, or think it's OP if they're killed that fast from that far away. |
Casius Hakoke
Molon Labe. League of Infamy
265
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Posted - 2013.08.18 23:37:00 -
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I love the laser rifle, that sucker is fun to use. I think the new sites are going to change how much it is seen. Only problem is, once it starts getting used more, the nerf threads will start to appear. |
Princeps Marcellus
Expert Intervention Caldari State
155
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Posted - 2013.08.18 23:44:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Shush you fool you know not what you speak of the LR is the worst weapon in the game even the plasma canon is better then this piece of trash CCP calls a weapon
Why would you tell this horrible ass community that a good weapon is good? They'll just ***** and moan for weeks until it gets nerfed....[/quote]
Oh God, guys, you did not read that last paragraph. I said that the laser rifle is incredibly good at what it does, but "what it does" is not much. And not worth keeping a laser rifle around for. Unless you enjoy using it, like I do. |
Scheneighnay McBob
Bojo's School of the Trades
3027
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Posted - 2013.08.19 00:34:00 -
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Melchiah ARANeAE wrote:Nocturnal Soul wrote:Shush you fool you know not what you speak of the LR is the worst weapon in the game even the plasma canon is better then this piece of trash CCP calls a weapon I'll have you know that the LR Is actually a good weapon in some circumstances. The plasma cannon never is. They're both fun to use though. :P *waves hand* laser rifles are terrible.
Go away. |
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True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1346
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Posted - 2013.08.19 00:34:00 -
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Princeps Marcellus wrote:True Adamance wrote:Shush you fool you know not what you speak of the LR is the worst weapon in the game even the plasma canon is better then this piece of trash CCP calls a weapon Why would you tell this horrible ass community that a good weapon is good? They'll just ***** and moan for weeks until it gets nerfed....
Oh God, guys, you did not read that last paragraph. I said that the laser rifle is incredibly good at what it does, but "what it does" is not much. And not worth keeping a laser rifle around for. Unless you enjoy using it, like I do.
The reason that I wanted SCR and TAR users to talk about their guns is so that we can compare. I want to say that the TAR is all-around better -- long range, and a decent short range performance, and good performance on the SCR all around, seemingly eclipsing the laser rifle, but I don't actually have any charts for them. I don't actually know how well they operate in CQC. Or if it matters that much, because most people using LRs will have sidearms, too.[/quote] The single shot ScR is a fantastic gun that while having great range to support the LR doesn't quite match it to the extent of its optimal range. |
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