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ADAM-OF-EVE
Svartur Bjorn
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Posted - 2013.08.17 11:40:00 -
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now we all have our opinions of what a vehicle/weapon or item are supposed to be used for but what was or is ccp's initial vision for these items
LAV LLAV HAV logistics suit assault suit scout suit heavy suit pilot suit commando suit drop uplinks mass drivers forge guns
i appreciate also the community's view on these items. firstly what you think the item should be used for and what you feel it is actually being used for. try and list them as you see above with your opinions as this will help in sifting through the info easyer
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demonkiller 12
Seraphim Auxiliaries
106
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Posted - 2013.08.17 11:55:00 -
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ADAM-OF-EVE wrote:now we all have our opinions of what a vehicle/weapon or item are supposed to be used for but what was or is ccp's initial vision for these items
LAV LLAV HAV logistics suit assault suit scout suit heavy suit pilot suit commando suit drop uplinks mass drivers forge guns
i appreciate also the community's view on these items. firstly what you think the item should be used for and what you feel it is actually being used for. try and list them as you see above with your opinions as this will help in sifting through the info easyer
ccp having access to a list like this can only be good for balancing purposes in the future rather than relying on rants from people hurt by other changes which then have a knock on effect on other areas of dust LAVs should remain as is, except let the passenger shoot out halo style LLAVs should not be LIGHT at all they should me MLAV Medium Logistics Armored Vehicle, movement speed somewhere in-between tanks and lavs/ probably closer to tanks, considerably MORE hp than HAVs and provide team support, scanners, hives, bassically a drivable supply depot. Tanks are pretty ok where they are, now you can all ***** they need a buff or AV is too OP, but if youre playing on your own you're an idiot and if you still lose it while in a squad you're just plain bad - ty from a fellow tanker
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ADAM-OF-EVE
Svartur Bjorn
175
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Posted - 2013.08.17 12:39:00 -
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LAV - should be a fast/weak transport at low levels upto a slower/heavy tanked vehicle at high levels with higher impact damage at lower end to less at higher end. this means the best murder taxi is skill intensive and stronger but the transport feature is less skill intensive cheaper but likely to blow up if it hits anyone or anything at speed.
LLAV - should be a slow heavy tanked vehicle with very good healing abilitys - at the moment is used as a murder taxi which makes it op, should be toned down so that normal lavs fill that role better. give the llav a close proximity aoe heal ability.
MAV - should be heavy armoured with the ability of installations such as clone reanimation/re-supply and should receive bonuses in these through skills.
HAV - these team vehicles i believe are working well especially if all turrets are manned with the right combination of support suits. i dont believe they need any changes to av or ap purposes
dropships - should be used for fast unobstructed transport to target locations. they should be fast and agile at low levels but weak tanked. at higher levels they should be heavyer tanked with more turrets but slower. they should never stop moving for more than 2-3 secs in order to drop off players. they do howether need imo a shield which can only be used only when stationary for about 5 secs which with a cd of 60 secs which allows then to pickup and drop of players into combat without being overwhealmed by av.
logistics suit - should be used for healing as its main role but currently has better options for assault purposes. needs better bonuses towards equiptment. should be taken the way of commando suits on the basis of limited customisation. put the tank in the suit with limited slots in high or low. after all logis really need heavy tank and equipment were as assault needs more customisation so this could help with maintaining its role.
assault suit - working as intended but needs a bit more balance between suits
scout suit - i don't have an opinion on these as don't use them much
heavy suit - i don't have an opinion on these as don't use
pilot suit - should benifit the vehicle it is used in, should have varients for each type of vehicle to suit it better rather than a blanket one for all. so lav/mav/hav/dropship pilot suit. as its giving bonus to the vehicle it should be weak in every aspect that counts in dropsuits i.e arm/shield/scan radius,speed etc. a pilot should be always looking to move out of a fight but if he bails out then he shouldnt be able to assault aswell.
commando suit - i don't have an opinion on these as don't use them
drop uplinks - should provided tactical spawning on the ground but in its current state its abused to much with uplink spamming. imo dropuplinks should be either a beacon on a polayer in which you will select and spawn dropping in from orbit onto that player or the device as it is now but you drop in from orbit. then there is no need for the invisable spawns or spawning in on camped uplinks.
mass drivers - shoul;d be area denial and support weapons but currently they are being used in combo with flux grenades for assaulting which makes them op. they need to have their direct damage removed in order to make them fully area denial/support and less effective for assault
forge guns - these should be the ultimate av guns but the assault versions turn out to be better at taking out mercs in 1 shot. they need their splash damage removed to make them full av or skilled 1 direct shot merc killers rather than splash damage inst killers
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Leovarian L Lavitz
Better Academy.
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Posted - 2013.08.17 13:07:00 -
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ADAM-OF-EVE wrote:LAV - should be a fast/weak transport at low levels upto a slower/heavy tanked vehicle at high levels with higher impact damage at lower end to less at higher end. this means the best murder taxi is skill intensive and stronger but the transport feature is less skill intensive cheaper but likely to blow up if it hits anyone or anything at speed.
LAV is not a transport! Dropship is a transport. Light Attack Vehicle is a devastating anti-infantry death dealer on wheels. Using a LAV to a-to-b is wasting its potential. Using a LAV or LLV to run people over is wasting its potential. Getting on coms and getting yourself a gunner for that neglected turret will turn it from bleh to infantry devouring machine.
EDIT Filling it with heavies with AV grenades + swarms = Devastating anti everything rolling can of doooooom. |
MarasdF Loron
Ghost Wolf Industries Alpha Wolf Pack
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Posted - 2013.08.17 13:12:00 -
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Even though OP was not asking for it I would like to know what the intended purpose for AR was? Because there is little to no incentive to using any other weapon since it is OP in ANY situations except redline sniping and taking out vehicles. |
ADAM-OF-EVE
Svartur Bjorn
175
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Posted - 2013.08.17 13:17:00 -
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Leovarian L Lavitz wrote:ADAM-OF-EVE wrote:LAV - should be a fast/weak transport at low levels upto a slower/heavy tanked vehicle at high levels with higher impact damage at lower end to less at higher end. this means the best murder taxi is skill intensive and stronger but the transport feature is less skill intensive cheaper but likely to blow up if it hits anyone or anything at speed.
LAV is not a transport! Dropship is a transport. Light Attack Vehicle is a devastating anti-infantry death dealer on wheels. Using a LAV to a-to-b is wasting its potential. Using a LAV or LLV to run people over is wasting its potential. Getting on coms and getting yourself a gunner for that neglected turret will turn it from bleh to infantry devouring machine.EDIT Filling it with heavies with AV grenades + swarms = Devastating anti everything rolling can of doooooom.
this is the point of the post. i wrote what i think this or that should be, you also write what you think this or that should be. when hundreds of people have posted their individual views then ccp can look at these for trends or see what people want that item to be or be used for and balance,remove or add new items to appropriately to fill that gap. |
DeadlyAztec11
Max-Pain-inc Dark Taboo
1877
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Posted - 2013.08.17 13:48:00 -
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I'll only do three
AR - Effective at all but the longest of ranges, though master of none but mid range. Easily adaptable to the situation it is put in.
Commando Suit - Devastating suit that that can specialize into two light weapons. Giving it the ability to decimate multiple tasks, for which you would normally need more than one person.
Forge Gun - Ultimate anti-material weapon. Able to destroy not only vehicles but defenses. |
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