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KING CHECKMATE
Bragian Order
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.08.16 02:45:00 -
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As the title Says.
I need a Respec
For experimentation
for this:
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=102327&find=unread
The results / Feedback with pics and graphs will be provided in return, on the findings.
As it is i doubt you have where to collect your Info on commandos from,since i doubt there is a single real Proto commando out there as we speak (AUR commandos MAYBE, if someone is lame enough to spend AUR on that)
AND i doubt the community has something against someone using a respec to go Fully into commando, for he good and balancing of the game they play.
(Except trolls of course) |
Logi Bro
Greatness Achieved Through Training
EoN.
2069
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Posted - 2013.08.16 02:50:00 -
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*sputters*
B-b-b-but our choices matter! If you get a respec the entire motto of this game is null and void!  |
BARDAS
DUST University
Ivy League
302
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Posted - 2013.08.16 02:52:00 -
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Considering the effort it took them to do the last respec would indicate that their server architecture is probably not setup to do respecs easily. I doubt they will ever do another one unless they absolutely have to. |
Thor McStrut
Reckoners
112
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Posted - 2013.08.16 03:00:00 -
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I'm actually considering going Commando as soon as the Gal heavy comes out. Just not sure where I'll take the build. |
KING CHECKMATE
Bragian Order
Amarr Empire
546
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Posted - 2013.08.16 03:24:00 -
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Logi Bro wrote:*sputters* B-b-b-but our choices matter! If you get a respec the entire motto of this game is null and void!
well but they still need somewhere to get their info on commandos from. And whats better than a 3avarage K-D ratio player willing to waste 12 mil sp in the suit?
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KING CHECKMATE
Bragian Order
Amarr Empire
546
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Posted - 2013.08.16 03:27:00 -
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At last i see the community doesnt care about 1 player having a respec if it means speccn into commando LOL |
Thor McStrut
Reckoners
112
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Posted - 2013.08.16 03:29:00 -
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I'm thinking damage mod with kin cats. Is that not feasible? I didn't read your thread yet. |
KING CHECKMATE
Bragian Order
Amarr Empire
547
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Posted - 2013.08.16 03:34:00 -
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Thor McStrut wrote:I'm thinking damage mod with kin cats. Is that not feasible? I didn't read your thread yet.
Well if i DID get a Respec for Commando usage and testing, beside the OBVIOUS Passive skills at Lv5 (For sprinting speed + 25% Armor and shields+precision enhancements,etc..) i was thinking in going with 2 Commando loadouts and variable weapons:
1 - with Light Damage Mod / Cx Shield Ext / Kinetic Cat + Repair Nanos
2 - with 2 Cx Shield Ext / Armor repairer + ADV Nanos
Weapon variation between Burst AR, AR ,TAC ARm Exo 5 Mass Driver , Scrambler rifles and Swarm launchers.
See what happens |
Acezero 44
Ikomari-Onu Enforcement
Caldari State
150
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Posted - 2013.08.16 03:34:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:Logi Bro wrote:*sputters* B-b-b-but our choices matter! If you get a respec the entire motto of this game is null and void! well but they still need somewhere to get their info on commandos from. And whats better than a 3avarage K-D ratio player willing to waste 12 mil sp in the suit?
use the A-1 
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KING CHECKMATE
Bragian Order
Amarr Empire
548
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Posted - 2013.08.16 03:40:00 -
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Acezero 44 wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:Logi Bro wrote:*sputters* B-b-b-but our choices matter! If you get a respec the entire motto of this game is null and void! well but they still need somewhere to get their info on commandos from. And whats better than a 3avarage K-D ratio player willing to waste 12 mil sp in the suit? use the A-1
The idea is to see the max capacity of the commando, using anything but proto is useless for precise feedback. |
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Acezero 44
Ikomari-Onu Enforcement
Caldari State
150
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Posted - 2013.08.16 03:55:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:Acezero 44 wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:Logi Bro wrote:*sputters* B-b-b-but our choices matter! If you get a respec the entire motto of this game is null and void! well but they still need somewhere to get their info on commandos from. And whats better than a 3avarage K-D ratio player willing to waste 12 mil sp in the suit? use the A-1 The idea is to see the max capacity of the commando, using anything but proto is useless for precise feedback.
thats BS
If you cant enjoy the road to the top, then thats your problem.
The proper way to test it would be to train it and experience the adversity, no free lunch,
no respecs.
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KING CHECKMATE
Bragian Order
Amarr Empire
548
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Posted - 2013.08.16 04:04:00 -
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Acezero 44 wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:Acezero 44 wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:Logi Bro wrote:*sputters* B-b-b-but our choices matter! If you get a respec the entire motto of this game is null and void! well but they still need somewhere to get their info on commandos from. And whats better than a 3avarage K-D ratio player willing to waste 12 mil sp in the suit? use the A-1 The idea is to see the max capacity of the commando, using anything but proto is useless for precise feedback. thats BS If you cant enjoy the road to the top, then thats your problem. The proper way to test it would be to train it and experience the adversity, no free lunch, no respecs.
There is no WAY to enjoy using a suit from the bottom that doesnt have HP, Nor speed, nor slots to modify dropsuit behavior... as it is i can tank and preform better with an amarr logi basic.
The idea is to see how good the Commando can get and do a balance from there.
PLUS, whats your problem, what does FREE MEAL EVEN MEAN? you talk like im wanting to respec into something that works.
Im wanting to respec into the Worst suit and probably the most underpowered thing in this whole EVE universe just to help it get balanced.
But as i said in my Original post.
Only the trolls would object to a petition like this...LOL
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Acezero 44
Ikomari-Onu Enforcement
Caldari State
150
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Posted - 2013.08.16 04:07:00 -
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I got 2 tips for you,.
1) start theory crafting from the bottom, if you cant, then your just another player that needs me to make builds for you.
2) A-1 x2 scrambler, now go pwn with it already.. |
Thor McStrut
Reckoners
112
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Posted - 2013.08.16 04:14:00 -
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Acezero 44 wrote:I got 2 tips for you,.
1) start theory crafting from the bottom, if you cant, then your just another player that needs me to make builds for you.
2) A-1 x2 scrambler, now go pwn with it already..
Is the thought here to rapid switch so you don't overheat? Seems legit. I was thinking double GEK or similar so you could put 120 rounds on targets with no reload. |
KING CHECKMATE
Bragian Order
Amarr Empire
548
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Posted - 2013.08.16 04:14:00 -
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Acezero 44 wrote:I got 2 tips for you,.
1) start theory crafting from the bottom, if you cant, then your just another player that needs me to make builds for you.
2) A-1 x2 scrambler, now go pwn with it already..
Well bro depends on the time and with WHO you are playing.
-If you play right after downtime, thats easy mode time. I can go 50-1 with militia gear, so that wouldnt prove anything.
-I use Scrambler and Mass driverand i do decently. But at the pace you earn SP in this game im not gonna get to proto commando in another year, there by hindering my plan on giving info and feedback back quite a LOT.
-I play solo all the time. No corp to back me up.
-What BUILD are you exactly going to do for me broski? Commandos dont even have slots until Proto level.(WOW 1 at advanced)
Plus what? Is the community getting scared of a 12 mill poto?
I think that might be it then. |
Acezero 44
Ikomari-Onu Enforcement
Caldari State
150
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Posted - 2013.08.16 04:21:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:
-What BUILD are you exactly going to do for me broski? Commandos dont even have slots until Proto level.(WOW 1 at advanced)
A-1 x2 scrambler, and dont forget the droplink bpo,.
11k fit, grinds sp with ease, and its actually frightfully strong if you can aim..
*Acezero pats King on the head* now get going,.
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KING CHECKMATE
Bragian Order
Amarr Empire
548
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Posted - 2013.08.16 04:29:00 -
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Acezero 44 wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:
-What BUILD are you exactly going to do for me broski? Commandos dont even have slots until Proto level.(WOW 1 at advanced)
A-1 x2 scrambler, and dont forget the droplink bpo,. 11k fit, grinds sp with ease, and its actually frightfully strong if you can aim.. *Acezero pats King on the head* now get going,.
HAHA you funny Bro.
Tell me , Are you a Commando?
the ''frightfully strong'' part makes me think you dont have the slightest idea what you are talking about.
By your standards if i can aim i can use an Advanced Cal Logi with a Scrambler rifle, packing 750 HP and Running fast enough plus a lot more of stuff, drop uplinks + nanos for a start? now THATS frightfully strong.
Even with aim, there are weapons that hit harder, faster AND without the need to aim. So wasting the 2 Light weapon slots on 1 single weapon is just noobish to do.
I prefer my Scram rifle + Mass driver combination. With the switching speed as fast as it is, taking out shield and changing to mass and shoot is easier than it seems.
But then again, being that big its very easy for pray and prayers to f*** your **** up and the commando suit does not have enough HP nor regen nor speed to keep it up.
Scram + Mass + Heal Nanos are theway to go with a Basic commando.
*King pats Acezero on the butt*
Don't tell someone who's actually playing as a commando how to use it, much less if you dont main it yourself. |
Acezero 44
Ikomari-Onu Enforcement
Caldari State
150
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Posted - 2013.08.16 04:41:00 -
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I knew I had to wait for you to edit,
now that your done, did you try that build yet?
/edit guess I have to edit to, that was a bit to troll for my taist,. but seriously
dual charge shots man, you can kill proto SG scouts in there prime range 1 shot, you can rotate charge shots at long distance and drop even the strongest proto set ups,. not to mention how easy it is to one shot noobs all day as well, from range or up close. |
KING CHECKMATE
Bragian Order
Amarr Empire
548
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Posted - 2013.08.16 04:45:00 -
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Acezero 44 wrote:I knew I had to wait for you to edit,
now that your done, did you try that build yet?
The only thing i'll give a try is the Drop uplink.
Im NOT going to give up a Mass driver.
Not only increases the offensive effectiveness of the loadout and gives me more answers to different situations, but the mass driver Is beast.
Having 2 of the same weapon beats the purpose of offensive versatility broski. |
Acezero 44
Ikomari-Onu Enforcement
Caldari State
150
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Posted - 2013.08.16 05:05:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:
Having 2 of the same weapon beats the purpose of offensive versatility broski.
Having x2 SR is a powerful advantage over the logi's 1 SR, if you cant see that then we dont need you giving CCP any proto feedback.
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KING CHECKMATE
Bragian Order
Amarr Empire
549
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Posted - 2013.08.16 05:17:00 -
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Acezero 44 wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:
Having 2 of the same weapon beats the purpose of offensive versatility broski.
Having x2 SR is a powerful advantage over the logi's 1 SR, if you cant see that then we dont need you giving CCP any proto feedback.
The first loadout i did was with 2 scram rifles.
Bro. Having Scrambler rifles and shooting forever without Overheating is never gonna be better than using Scram + Mass.(maybe 1 on 1 but thats it. And the idea of the commando is being ready for multiple situations)
If you cant see that you can stop commenting on this post. |
LoveNewlooy
Black Phoenix Mercenaries
62
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Posted - 2013.08.16 05:34:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:As the title Says. I need a RespecFor experimentation for this: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=102327&find=unreadThe results / Feedback with pics and graphs will be provided in return, on the findings. As it is i doubt you have where to collect your Info on commandos from,since i doubt there is a single real Proto commando out there as we speak (AUR commandos MAYBE, if someone is lame enough to spend AUR on that) AND i doubt the community has something against someone using a respec to go Fully into commando, for the good and balancing of the game they play. (Except trolls of course) OF COURSE, i am willing to pay if i do not deliver the feedback or i do not respec fully into commando. By deleting my account or a -+ of my SP and ISK , or whatever CCP or the community sees fit if i dont fulfill my promise.
no Respec if u dont like it just quit game. |
KING CHECKMATE
Bragian Order
Amarr Empire
552
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Posted - 2013.08.16 08:23:00 -
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wow aint you productive. |
KING CHECKMATE
Bragian Order
Amarr Empire
553
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Posted - 2013.08.16 08:48:00 -
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Acezero 44 wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:
Having 2 of the same weapon beats the purpose of offensive versatility broski.
Having x2 SR is a powerful advantage over the logi's 1 SR, if you cant see that then we dont need you giving CCP any proto feedback.
BTW it doesnt EVEN have to be me.
GIve the respec to Acezero 44 then, he's quite the expert. Any player with over 10 mill will do as long as he provides.
Im not to exited to be a commando to be honest,but i do want to know what they are capable at high level.
As it is you can see the power and advantages in different dropsuits after they are Advanced with some shield tanking and a decent weapon, but with commandos that power will only show on a high SP player that can invest ALL his SP on the Commando dropsuit and the Passive skills needed for it. |
Robocop Junior
The Surrogates Of War
252
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Posted - 2013.08.16 08:52:00 -
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I actually like this idea and you seem like a good candidate for something like this but don't they already have people doing this sorta stuff already? I have no idea how they go about testing this stuff but I assume they try everything with maxed out SP,skills, etc. first before releasing it? |
KING CHECKMATE
Bragian Order
Amarr Empire
553
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Posted - 2013.08.16 08:58:00 -
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Robocop Junior wrote:I actually like this idea and you seem like a good candidate for something like this but don't they already have people doing this sorta stuff already? I have no idea how they go about testing this stuff but I assume they try everything with maxed out SP,skills, etc. first before releasing it?
well you would think that,but as it is i dont think they did that with the Commando suit, nor the flaylock,etc.e...... |
Robocop Junior
The Surrogates Of War
252
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Posted - 2013.08.16 08:58:00 -
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The Bonuses commando suits gain are just utter BS. 2% Reload speed per level? Srsly? If i have a CQ loadout say, A Scrambler + Mass Driver its a lot faster , and WILL ALWAYS BE, to just chage weapons. Having 2 Light weapons and fast switching speed make reload speed useless.
Totally agree with that. |
KING CHECKMATE
Bragian Order
Amarr Empire
553
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Posted - 2013.08.16 09:01:00 -
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Robocop Junior wrote:The Bonuses commando suits gain are just utter BS. 2% Reload speed per level? Srsly? If i have a CQ loadout say, A Scrambler + Mass Driver its a lot faster , and WILL ALWAYS BE, to just chage weapons. Having 2 Light weapons and fast switching speed make reload speed useless.
Totally agree with that.
Someone with sense. TY |
Robocop Junior
The Surrogates Of War
253
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Posted - 2013.08.16 09:01:00 -
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You might be right I think they just threw it out there and thought people would be so excited to use two light weapons that they wouldn't even bother to notice how crap the rest of the suit actually was.... |
Robocop Junior
The Surrogates Of War
253
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Posted - 2013.08.16 09:04:00 -
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Before they released it I remember how excited everyone was ( I was just starting the game sounded awesome to me too) like WOW DUDE I CAN HAVE A SNIPER AND AN AR THIS IS GONNA BE GREAT or whatever combo they wanted then when it came out no one cared after a week lol |
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