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Aisha Ctarl
The Generals EoN.
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Posted - 2013.08.13 17:39:00 -
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I know it. You know it. The DEVS know it. The GEK is the weapon that is just better at everything...it's like obtaining a proto weapon at the advanced tier that also only costs ~8K ISK.
My thought is since the AR's are the placeholders for the missing racial AR variants (GLU = Rail Rifle, GEK = Combat Rifle), does this mean that the Combat Rifle will be the new all powerful greater than all weapon? Do you feel that CCP will be able to balance it well when the Combat Rifle is implemented into the game? |
Doc Noah
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
428
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Posted - 2013.08.13 17:42:00 -
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What? Duvolle is better than GEK because it has way more range. This thread smells fishy, like you're trying to cover up something by posting random ranting. |
Aisha Ctarl
The Generals EoN.
1020
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Posted - 2013.08.13 17:43:00 -
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Doc Noah wrote:What? Duvolle is better than GEK because it has way more range.
Duvolle also kicks like a mule - GEK is laser beam accurate. |
Nemo Bluntz
TeamPlayers EoN.
271
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Posted - 2013.08.13 17:45:00 -
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[quote=Aisha Ctarl Duvolle also kicks like a mule [/quote]
I've never had that issue. |
Cyrius Li-Moody
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
691
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Posted - 2013.08.13 17:46:00 -
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Nemo Bluntz wrote:Aisha Ctarl wrote: Duvolle also kicks like a mule
I've never had that issue.
When zero kick is compared to minor kick. The minor kick seems like a mule. |
Scheneighnay McBob
Bojo's School of the Trades
2963
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Posted - 2013.08.13 17:48:00 -
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Aisha Ctarl wrote:Doc Noah wrote:What? Duvolle is better than GEK because it has way more range. Duvolle also kicks like a mule - GEK is laser beam accurate. GEKs are no threat to my ELM. Duvolles are. |
HandOGod
Taints of Tartarus
37
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Posted - 2013.08.13 17:49:00 -
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You can hit things from far away but it doesn't do much damage.
Geks are great for stealing kills. |
Aero Yassavi
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1218
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Posted - 2013.08.13 17:49:00 -
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Aisha Ctarl wrote:I know it. You know it. The DEVS know it. The GEK is the weapon that is just better at everything...it's like obtaining a proto weapon at the advanced tier that also only costs ~8K ISK.
My thought is since the AR's are the placeholders for the missing racial AR variants (GLU = Rail Rifle, GEK = Combat Rifle), does this mean that the Combat Rifle will be the new all powerful greater than all weapon? Do you feel that CCP will be able to balance it well when the Combat Rifle is implemented into the game? My goodness, why does everyone think that the AR's are placeholders and that the Rail Rifle will be like the tactical AR's? This is incorrect.
1. The AR's variants are not placeholders. They will continue to exists once the other racial AR's are released, but may be slightly tweaked.
2. The Rail Rifle is going to be more like a long range breach AR. The Combat Rifle is going to be a faster burst AR. The scrambler rifle is already the superior tactical AR.
And that said, come at with your GEK's - I'll be waiting over here with my CRW's. |
Scheneighnay McBob
Bojo's School of the Trades
2963
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Posted - 2013.08.13 17:50:00 -
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And you have the racial variants wrong, combat rifles are supposedly burst ARs. Every racial AR with have an assault variant, which will be extremely similar to a GEK |
Scheneighnay McBob
Bojo's School of the Trades
2963
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Posted - 2013.08.13 17:51:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:Aisha Ctarl wrote:I know it. You know it. The DEVS know it. The GEK is the weapon that is just better at everything...it's like obtaining a proto weapon at the advanced tier that also only costs ~8K ISK.
My thought is since the AR's are the placeholders for the missing racial AR variants (GLU = Rail Rifle, GEK = Combat Rifle), does this mean that the Combat Rifle will be the new all powerful greater than all weapon? Do you feel that CCP will be able to balance it well when the Combat Rifle is implemented into the game? My goodness, why does everyone think that the AR's are placeholders and that the Rail Rifle will be like the tactical AR's? This is incorrect. 1. The AR's variants are not placeholders. They will continue to exists once the other racial AR's are released, but may be slightly tweaked. 2. The Rail Rifle is going to be more like a long range breach AR. The Combat Rifle is going to be a faster burst AR. The scrambler rifle is already the superior tactical AR. And that said, come at with your GEK's - I'll be waiting over here with my CRW's. Scramblers are too short-ranged to be tactical. They were also announced before devs said that the current ARs are placeholders, so there's a good chance there isn't an AR equivalent. Plasma rifles will be breach ARs. |
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Thumb Green
Novashift
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Posted - 2013.08.13 17:52:00 -
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Aisha Ctarl wrote:Doc Noah wrote:What? Duvolle is better than GEK because it has way more range. Duvolle also kicks like a mule - GEK is laser beam accurate.
You're thinking of the Exile. That thing cuts through people like a hot knife through butter.
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Aisha Ctarl
The Generals EoN.
1021
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Posted - 2013.08.13 17:52:00 -
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I'm a shotgunner and SCR user myself, but when I do whip out the GEK, it just feels vastly superior to everything which lead me to wonder about the future AR racial variants and their balance. |
Cobra CLUTCH79
OVERLORDS OF THE ONI SERPENT
29
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Posted - 2013.08.13 17:52:00 -
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Doc Noah wrote:What? Duvolle is better than GEK because it has way more range. This thread smells fishy, like you're trying to cover up something by posting random ranting. the DUVALL is better than the GEK but the DUVALL is really heavy and expensive, 40,000 isk is quite a bit for an AR but the dmg output is well worth it .. |
Aero Yassavi
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1218
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Posted - 2013.08.13 17:53:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:And you have the racial variants wrong, combat rifles are supposedly burst ARs. Every racial AR with have an assault variant, which will be extremely similar to a GEK This is correct, and in fact every racial AR will have not only an assault variant, but a breach, burst, and tactical variant as well. The design on this is that each race will be the best at one of them - Gallente with assault, Amarr with tactical, Minmatar with burst, and Caldari with breach. |
reydient
Rogue Spades EoN.
83
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Posted - 2013.08.13 17:54:00 -
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The GEK is a super beast- 3% modifier and it hits like a duvolle! its super cheap- I cant agree that it kicks less than the dovulle. Then again the militia AR DOESNT KICK AT ALL( HIDDEN BUFF?????). I say its better than alot of guns the dovulle itself. If the duvolle increased my life expectancy i'd place it over the GEK- The fact is, the dovulle doesnt drastically increase your clone life span- not when you've got so many murder taxi's running around the field.
+1 spot on, i support this post. |
Aero Yassavi
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1218
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Posted - 2013.08.13 17:57:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:Aisha Ctarl wrote:I know it. You know it. The DEVS know it. The GEK is the weapon that is just better at everything...it's like obtaining a proto weapon at the advanced tier that also only costs ~8K ISK.
My thought is since the AR's are the placeholders for the missing racial AR variants (GLU = Rail Rifle, GEK = Combat Rifle), does this mean that the Combat Rifle will be the new all powerful greater than all weapon? Do you feel that CCP will be able to balance it well when the Combat Rifle is implemented into the game? My goodness, why does everyone think that the AR's are placeholders and that the Rail Rifle will be like the tactical AR's? This is incorrect. 1. The AR's variants are not placeholders. They will continue to exists once the other racial AR's are released, but may be slightly tweaked. 2. The Rail Rifle is going to be more like a long range breach AR. The Combat Rifle is going to be a faster burst AR. The scrambler rifle is already the superior tactical AR. And that said, come at with your GEK's - I'll be waiting over here with my CRW's. Scramblers are too short-ranged to be tactical. They were also announced before devs said that the current ARs are placeholders, so there's a good chance there isn't an AR equivalent. Plasma rifles will be breach ARs. I'm sorry, but you are incorrect. Proof right here, https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=870299#post870299
The current ARs are not placeholders per CCP Remnant's word. The Scrambler Rifle is the designed superior tactical variant. The "Gallente Assault Rifle" we have now is the plasma rifle.
CCP Remnant wrote:They won't be removed, no, but they will be tweaked slightly. The idea being that each race will have it's base variant be Assault, (Gallente) Burst (Minmatar), Breach (Caldari) or Tactical (Amarr) and then the variants are a specific race's take on the others using their own tech. So, you'd get an Assault Rail Rifle that attempts to somewhat mimic the behavior of the Gallente Assault Rifle and a Tactical Assault Rifle that attempts to mimic the Amarr Scrambler Rifle and so on.
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Acezero 44
Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State
137
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Posted - 2013.08.13 18:00:00 -
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Gek is good sure, but anything is good in pub games where everyone is sluggin it out @ 30m.
The really good players know how to fight at range, the Gek's loose to much dmg @ 50-60m, But The devolle stays fairly strong.
Fail AR thread.. |
Buster Friently
Rosen Association
1619
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Posted - 2013.08.13 18:00:00 -
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Aisha Ctarl wrote:I know it. You know it. The DEVS know it. The GEK is the weapon that is just better at everything...it's like obtaining a proto weapon at the advanced tier that also only costs ~8K ISK.
My thought is since the AR's are the placeholders for the missing racial AR variants (GLU = Rail Rifle, GEK = Combat Rifle), does this mean that the Combat Rifle will be the new all powerful greater than all weapon? Do you feel that CCP will be able to balance it well when the Combat Rifle is implemented into the game?
The ARs do need a serious rebalancing. |
Mamertine Son
R.E.B.E.L.S
109
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Posted - 2013.08.13 18:04:00 -
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I fail at the GEK, scrambler is more my play style. |
Soldiersaint
Deepspace Digital
322
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Posted - 2013.08.13 18:14:00 -
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I have always hated the ar's but im gonna say this. The gallente military knows how to make a freaking powerful and accurate assault rifle. YOU GOTTA GET INTO DA LORE! |
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Necandi Brasil
Conspiratus Immortalis Covert Intervention
272
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Posted - 2013.08.13 18:17:00 -
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Duv's are better than GEK's ... Nuff' said... |
Buddha Brown
Factory Fresh
257
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Posted - 2013.08.13 18:30:00 -
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Nemo Bluntz wrote:Aisha Ctarl wrote: Duvolle also kicks like a mule
I've never had that issue.
Never ever |
Guildo Crow
ZionTCD
85
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Posted - 2013.08.13 18:43:00 -
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Unless I'm blinded by how good I am,
'Exile' trumps all. |
Buster Friently
Rosen Association
1659
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Posted - 2013.09.05 04:48:00 -
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Now, new and improved with more aimbot.
Hail king AR. Hail AR 514. |
Blaze Ashra
O.U.T.E.R. S.A.N.C.T.U.M.
27
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Posted - 2013.09.05 04:55:00 -
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Buster Friently wrote:Now, new and improved with more aimbot.
Hail king AR. Hail AR 514.
Look, Mass drivers didn't get nerfed, people are using more weapons than AR in uprising now, and there's no bickering about nerfs for the first time in how long. Give it a break until the x needs a nerf threads start showing up please. |
The-Errorist
Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation
170
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Posted - 2013.09.05 06:28:00 -
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Aisha Ctarl wrote:I know it. You know it. The DEVS know it. The GEK is the weapon that is just better at everything...it's like obtaining a proto weapon at the advanced tier that also only costs ~8K ISK.
My thought is since the AR's are the placeholders for the missing racial AR variants (GLU = Rail Rifle, GEK = Combat Rifle), does this mean that the Combat Rifle will be the new all powerful greater than all weapon? Do you feel that CCP will be able to balance it well when the Combat Rifle is implemented into the game? The burst is like the Combat rifle, not the GEK regular variant.
Here's how it is/going to be: Assault Rifle (Hybrid - Plasma) - short range (assault) Combat Rifle (Projectile - Autocannon) - short-mid range (burst) Scrambler Rifle (Laser - Pulse) - mid range (tactical) Rail Rifle (Hybrid - Railgun) - long range (breach) |
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