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DoomLead
Dead Six Initiative
Lokun Listamenn
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Posted - 2013.08.13 03:33:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:
As for the instant biomassing, The Mass Driver is the Minmatar answer for the Swarm Launcher and Plasma Cannon, both of which also exhibit similar behaviors. Clones killed by either of those weapons also are biomassed instantly (and yes you can die from a swarm launcher by jumping into it)
since the Cal logi was nerfed because everyone cried it was OP so CCP brought the hammer down. the flaylock was nerfed because people figured out that it was very powerful and began using it as a primary CCP again brings out the nerf hammer. I use forge guns on vehicles and people the forge gun is supposed to be AV alot of people use the mass driver only on people. now since these weapons aren't being used for their said "role" they should be nerfed according to the logic used for the nerfs after the release date.
I disagree with the logic behind nerfs I believe things should be buffed in order to bring about balance.
since all explosive weaponry is an insta kill meaning no revives
my proposal is to buff the clones so that when they die due to splash/explosive damage they should be allowed to be revived this will help with forge sniping, massholes, and rail tank sniping (remote explosives and the laughable plasma cannon will just be casualties of the **** poor decisions to nerf instead of buff to bring about balance)
only time there should be instant biomassing is for head shots, grenades and if clone is in vehicle or installation when it blows up |
Buster Friently
Rosen Association
1603
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Posted - 2013.08.13 03:35:00 -
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DoomLead wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:
As for the instant biomassing, The Mass Driver is the Minmatar answer for the Swarm Launcher and Plasma Cannon, both of which also exhibit similar behaviors. Clones killed by either of those weapons also are biomassed instantly (and yes you can die from a swarm launcher by jumping into it)
since the Cal logi was nerfed because everyone cried it was OP so CCP brought the hammer down. the flaylock was nerfed because people figured out that it was very powerful and began using it as a primary CCP again brings out the nerf hammer. I use forge guns on vehicles and people the forge gun is supposed to be AV alot of people use the mass driver only on people. now since these weapons aren't being used for their said "role" they should be nerfed according to the logic used for the nerfs after the release date. I disagree with the logic behind nerfs I believe things should be buffed in order to bring about balance.since all explosive weaponry is an insta kill meaning no revives my proposal is to buff the clones so that when they die due to splash/explosive damage they should be allowed to be revived this will help with forge sniping, massholes, and rail tank sniping (remote explosives and the laughable plasma cannon will just be casualties of the **** poor decisions to nerf instead of buff to bring about balance) only time there should be instant biomassing is for head shots, grenades and if clone is in vehicle or installation when it blows up
See, explosives kinda disperses the matter that the nanites use to repair you. Seems to make sense to me.
Why should headshots be exempt, that seems pretty easy to repair? Also, the MD shoots...grenades. So in your grand plan, that would need to be exempted too, right? Except that's the exact opposite of the nerfs you're actually trying to propose.
Oh yeah...Hail AR 514. |
Kimimaro Uchiha
Undead Doom Legion
3
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Posted - 2013.08.13 12:00:00 -
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I think because he is a heavy explosive weapons like the MD have an advantage over him because that good old +20 damage to armor, slow movement speed and hmg laughable range make skilled MD users a huge headache. |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
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Posted - 2013.08.13 12:41:00 -
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I am sorry but I do not want to hear screaming and yelling to nerf injectors. |
Mobius Wyvern
Guardian Solutions
DARKSTAR ARMY
3094
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Posted - 2013.08.13 13:13:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:I am sorry but I do not want to hear screaming and yelling to nerf injectors.
No one is actually brainless enou-
Oh wait.
Nevermind.
I forgot where we were for a moment.
That said, as far as grenades go, those are more about filling things with fragments of metal rather than actually trying to blow them to pieces.
I would say that only an explosive hitting you directly for the final blow should make you impossible to revive.
If you have direct hits with explosives and headshots as the only means of denying revives, I think you'll start to see a lot less explosive spam in matches. |
DoomLead
Dead Six Initiative
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Posted - 2013.08.14 02:24:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:I am sorry but I do not want to hear screaming and yelling to nerf injectors.
honestly i don't mind dieing from explosive damage I just think we should get a revive opportunity because I play a heavy and i cant escape a mass driver who is bunny hopping and shooting explosilves at my feet I can only rely on a logi to pick me up, and anybody who says nerf nanite injectors would be out of there minds. massholes and forge gunners and rail snipers wouldn't say nerf nanite injectors that thought wouldn't even get picked up by the community come on IWS your argument could be better |
Cody Sietz
Bullet Cluster
698
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Posted - 2013.08.14 02:30:00 -
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My armour gets blown up a lot, but I don't think I should still get to be revived.
Blowing someone up is a effective way of making the enemies lose clones. It also prevents logos from doing their jobs. |
DoomLead
Dead Six Initiative
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Posted - 2013.08.16 18:28:00 -
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Vin Vicious
Capital Acquisitions LLC
258
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Posted - 2013.08.16 18:38:00 -
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Kimimaro Uchiha wrote:skilled MD users
Lol |
Keeriam Miray
Ostrakon Agency
Gallente Federation
21
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Posted - 2013.08.16 18:54:00 -
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I think not all headshots is instant biomassing, i constantly see my victims get revived after 1-3 headshot deaths,  that's wrong. You need to shoot that dead clone (sometimes stand\sit still in same pose  ) again to 100% kill it lol. |
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Greiskind
Neo Terra Imperial Army
Neo Terra Empire
29
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Posted - 2013.08.16 19:28:00 -
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DoomLead wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:
As for the instant biomassing, The Mass Driver is the Minmatar answer for the Swarm Launcher and Plasma Cannon, both of which also exhibit similar behaviors. Clones killed by either of those weapons also are biomassed instantly (and yes you can die from a swarm launcher by jumping into it)
since the Cal logi was nerfed because everyone cried it was OP so CCP brought the hammer down. the flaylock was nerfed because people figured out that it was very powerful and began using it as a primary CCP again brings out the nerf hammer. I use forge guns on vehicles and people the forge gun is supposed to be AV alot of people use the mass driver only on people. now since these weapons aren't being used for their said "role" they should be nerfed according to the logic used for the nerfs after the release date. I disagree with the logic behind nerfs I believe things should be buffed in order to bring about balance.since all explosive weaponry is an insta kill meaning no revives my proposal is to buff the clones so that when they die due to splash/explosive damage they should be allowed to be revived this will help with forge sniping, massholes, and rail tank sniping (remote explosives and the laughable plasma cannon will just be casualties of the **** poor decisions to nerf instead of buff to bring about balance) only time there should be instant biomassing is for head shots, grenades and if clone is in vehicle or installation when it blows up
The Mass Driver is not AV - it's intended purpose is an anti-personnel AOE weapon. Think grenade launcher from COD/MW, etc. Occasionally I can get a vehicle kill with my MD, but very rare (or if it's militia...). I get what CCP did with explosive weapons and head shots going insta-biomass, and I'm fine with that - giving and receiving. |
THUNDERGROOVE
ZionTCD
146
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Posted - 2013.08.16 19:56:00 -
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DoomLead wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:
As for the instant biomassing, The Mass Driver is the Minmatar answer for the Swarm Launcher and Plasma Cannon, both of which also exhibit similar behaviors. Clones killed by either of those weapons also are biomassed instantly (and yes you can die from a swarm launcher by jumping into it)
since the Cal logi was nerfed because everyone cried it was OP so CCP brought the hammer down. the flaylock was nerfed because people figured out that it was very powerful and began using it as a primary CCP again brings out the nerf hammer. I use forge guns on vehicles and people the forge gun is supposed to be AV alot of people use the mass driver only on people. now since these weapons aren't being used for their said "role" they should be nerfed according to the logic used for the nerfs after the release date. I disagree with the logic behind nerfs I believe things should be buffed in order to bring about balance.since all explosive weaponry is an insta kill meaning no revives my proposal is to buff the clones so that when they die due to splash/explosive damage they should be allowed to be revived this will help with forge sniping, massholes, and rail tank sniping (remote explosives and the laughable plasma cannon will just be casualties of the **** poor decisions to nerf instead of buff to bring about balance) only time there should be instant biomassing is for head shots, grenades and if clone is in vehicle or installation when it blows up
Why I'll just shoot an extra shot just to make sure your clone is dead if that was the case. |
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