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KalOfTheRathi
Talon Strike Force LTD Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2013.08.11 22:50:00 -
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Patrick57 wrote:Hey, have you ever heard of aiming better? It's this new concept that people everywhere are starting to use in FPS games!!! But, on a more serious note, get better aiming and stop complaining. How long have you been playing DUST?
Aiming is just one of the issues. And it has changed since Chromosome. Not to mention the various distance adjustments so you cannot tell if you are having a bad night, your controller is acting up or they have changed something else under you again is getting a little old.
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Shotty GoBang
Pro Hic Immortalis League of Infamy
546
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Posted - 2013.08.11 23:11:00 -
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Patrick57 wrote: But, on a more serious note, get better aiming and stop complaining.
OP's pointing out a known mechanical issue and asking if/when it'll be fixed. Tracking targets in CQC is choppy. It's been choppy since Chrome. It got worse after 1.2. Everyone (even CCP) knows this. Everyone except for you, Patrick. And you suggest aiming? Aiming with a shotgun? |
Shotty GoBang
Pro Hic Immortalis League of Infamy
546
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Posted - 2013.08.11 23:27:00 -
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Medical Crash wrote: Are you kidding me? Active Scanners DO jam now, wait for more people to post in this thread, they'll confirm they jam. When that happens the only way to use it again is to switch to something else and reequip the Scanner again.
The two biggest problems for shotguns is;
1. The Acceleration- When you want your reticule to go from point A to point B, it doesn't happen right away like in other FPS. The Acceleration makes it take longer for you to properly aim, and for a shotgunner this gets you killed, we can't twitch aim with this garbage on.
2. Slow sensitivity- The aiming is too slow in this game, even at max sensitivity, it simply isn't enough. You will come across many enemies who will strafe faster than you can aim!
I've used shotguns for a very long time in FPShooters, so I do know what I'm talking about. Trust me when I say it's HARD to use shotguns in DUST right now, they're a joke. Almost no one takes them them seriously right now with all the problems they have. The 8 clip Mass Driver does a better job in close quarters than the shotgun right now, that should tell you something is seriously wrong.
Points 1 and 2 above are perfectly described and dead on target. From what I've read, 1.4 will likely fix these issues. Soon folks will take shotgunners seriously again.
- Shotty GoBang
PS: Tap melee to unjam your scanner. |
mollerz
Minja Scouts
874
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Posted - 2013.08.12 00:10:00 -
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They need to sit down and work out how to engineer their human interface so that the controller disappears and we just have fun enjoying the game. Every action in this game is a serious struggle and takes you out of enjoying the game. fighting to sprint, graphical errors, utter lack of responsiveness to button actions, forced crouching.. i could go on.
and yes, patrick, aiming is on that list. |
Ludvig Enraga
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
373
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Posted - 2013.08.12 00:29:00 -
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Medical Crash wrote: As a shotgunner I must say this game is not very enjoyable anymore. Heck, I can see why people AFK now, this game has gotten so boring now that I can't blame them for doing the minimum it takes to earn SP. Until CCP fixes the aiming and hit detection in this game, I don't know how any infantry are having fun. Not being able to properly aim takes any fun out of any fight. This is the reason splash weapons have been getting ever so popular, because most of their shots will actually hit their targets, unlike aiming with any other non splash weapon, in which it's considered luck to hit something. I miss using shotguns, and I can't wait until CCP fixes aiming five years from now. Yes I've heard aiming is supposed to be fixed in the upcoming patches soon, but knowing CCP what will go wrong in its place? Almost every patch that is introduced something else has gone wrong. Take the recent patch for example, Active Scanners now jam! That's right, they get stuck and only reset after you switch equipment. Here's to the future *raises glass* (<-----I'm a Minmatar Logi)
I used to be like you very frustrated by the fact that SG was broken. I used to play with SG in pre-chromosome and was decent with it; since after the Chromosome my SG success was dismal. So I naturally concluded that since I, a previously able SG player, can't do well with a SG anymore, SG is broken.
Recently I have been playing with a corp mate who is simply a brillian SG scout. He is able to use SG in a way that I did not see before - he has beastly KDR in pub matches. I am trying to copy his techniques and learn from him; I am still terrible though. However, what I larned is that SG is not broken it just requires a special technique to take advantage of it.
It's not a huge revelation, obviously, but if you take speed tanking and rapid hit and run techniques while firing SG when you are right next to your target, you may find that you are sitll able to OHK or nearly so while using speed to avoid protracted engagements where scout is at an obvious disadvantage.
To sum it up. SG still can be used in a way that is highly effective even with an occasional hit detection glitch. I would not have posted this here unless I saw highly effetive SG use first hand. |
Nick nugg3t
Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation
7
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Posted - 2013.08.12 14:33:00 -
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low genius wrote:Medical Crash wrote: As a shotgunner I must say this game is not very enjoyable anymore. Heck, I can see why people AFK now, this game has gotten so boring now that I can't blame them for doing the minimum it takes to earn SP. Until CCP fixes the aiming and hit detection in this game, I don't know how any infantry are having fun. Not being able to properly aim takes any fun out of any fight. This is the reason splash weapons have been getting ever so popular, because most of their shots will actually hit their targets, unlike aiming with any other non splash weapon, in which it's considered luck to hit something. I miss using shotguns, and I can't wait until CCP fixes aiming five years from now. Yes I've heard aiming is supposed to be fixed in the upcoming patches soon, but knowing CCP what will go wrong in its place? Almost every patch that is introduced something else has gone wrong. Take the recent patch for example, Active Scanners now jam! That's right, they get stuck and only reset after you switch equipment. Here's to the future *raises glass* (<-----I'm a Minmatar Logi) considering how often i get ganked by a shotgun i have to wonder about this post. i also notice you've not mentioned how the 'hit detection' is off for you. this doesn't seem like much of a post to me. how about throw some information into your posts? my active scanner doesn't jam, so... my active scanner jams . . so. |
Patrick57
GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention
33
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Posted - 2013.08.12 17:00:00 -
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Medical Crash wrote:Patrick57 wrote:Medical Crash wrote:Patrick57 wrote:Medical Crash wrote: As a shotgunner I must say this game is not very enjoyable anymore. Heck, I can see why people AFK now, this game has gotten so boring now that I can't blame them for doing the minimum it takes to earn SP. Until CCP fixes the aiming and hit detection in this game, I don't know how any infantry are having fun. Not being able to properly aim takes any fun out of any fight. This is the reason splash weapons have been getting ever so popular, because most of their shots will actually hit their targets, unlike aiming with any other non splash weapon, in which it's considered luck to hit something. I miss using shotguns, and I can't wait until CCP fixes aiming five years from now. Yes I've heard aiming is supposed to be fixed in the upcoming patches soon, but knowing CCP what will go wrong in its place? Almost every patch that is introduced something else has gone wrong. Take the recent patch for example, Active Scanners now jam! That's right, they get stuck and only reset after you switch equipment. Here's to the future *raises glass* (<-----I'm a Minmatar Logi) Hey, have you ever heard of aiming better? It's this new concept that people everywhere are starting to use in FPS games!!! But, on a more serious note, get better aiming and stop complaining. No, the aiming system is poor this current build. "Get gud" isn't the answer to everything. If you can't tell something is wrong with the aiming then you're blind. The proof is in front of you. If you can OR can't tell something is wrong with YOUR aiming then YOU SIR are blind. I have no problem with aiming. Then you're blind as well. Please use a shotgun in PC, or ambush and try to get a lot of kills, you will most likely die trying. I can guarantee you won't perform well consistently. If aiming was good, then why is CCP patching it? You are a fool. are you insulting my aiming?? THIS IS OUTRAGEOUS! how about we go 1v1 sometime and see if the aiming really is "poor in it's current build" |
John Demonsbane
Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics
61
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Posted - 2013.08.12 17:21:00 -
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Public service announcement: Please do not feel the trolls. |
Charlotte O'Dell
0uter.Heaven EoN.
910
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Posted - 2013.08.12 17:25:00 -
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When I'm having trouble getting hit detections on a blaster turret, something is wrong. |
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