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hackerzilla
Defenders of the Helghast Dream
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Posted - 2013.08.10 04:06:00 -
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Then they should give cal logi another equipment slot and give back the 40 CPU and then we could be real logi bros cause apparently all cal logis aren't logi bros .___. |
DeadlyAztec11
Max-Pain-inc Dark Taboo
1820
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Posted - 2013.08.10 04:16:00 -
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So what makes you think that people won't just use it like a super Assault again? |
TheAmazing FlyingPig
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
2504
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Posted - 2013.08.10 04:18:00 -
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Real logi bros fill their equipment slots first, then the rest. |
Heimdallr69
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
484
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Posted - 2013.08.10 04:21:00 -
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hackerzilla wrote:Then they should give cal logi another equipment slot and give back the 40 CPU and then we could be real logi bros cause apparently all cal logis aren't logi bros .___. Give assaults 2 equipment slots buff our cpu and pg and sure |
KING CHECKMATE
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
473
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Posted - 2013.08.10 04:22:00 -
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hackerzilla wrote:Then they should give cal logi another equipment slot and give back the 40 CPU and then we could be real logi bros cause apparently all cal logis aren't logi bros .___.
AND reduce the Low powered modules to 3. |
Rusty Shallows
Black Jackals
239
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Posted - 2013.08.10 04:25:00 -
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hackerzilla wrote:Then they should give cal logi another equipment slot and give back the 40 CPU and then we could be real logi bros cause apparently all cal logis aren't logi bros .___. A few bad apples ruined it for everyone else. |
Cody Sietz
Bullet Cluster
681
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Posted - 2013.08.10 04:41:00 -
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Yeah, cause that's what they will use it for.
You got enough CPU to choke a horse. Relax. |
Zatara Rought
TeamPlayers EoN.
718
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Posted - 2013.08.10 04:48:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote:hackerzilla wrote:Then they should give cal logi another equipment slot and give back the 40 CPU and then we could be real logi bros cause apparently all cal logis aren't logi bros .___. Give assaults 2 equipment slots buff our cpu and pg and sure
My caldari assault already can move at 5.0 move speed and get 500 shields with either a damage mod or a energizer that gives it 53 shields/s not including the 3 low slots and it can carry a allotek hive..I carry a ishakune smg and dominate. I think assaults are fine.
On the OP's point though, I articulated this to my homies in TeamPlayers. zdub and doc said yes, deluxe I think nasgoth said no. All four run the caldari logi. Doc and zdub are logi's. Deluxe and Nasgoth play it more assault. this is potentially why they didn't want to implement your idea. Because it allows both types of players to (with a little headache) co-exist without raging endlessly because the 8 slots would have caused the assaults to cry. |
ZDub 303
TeamPlayers EoN.
1580
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Posted - 2013.08.10 04:52:00 -
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Zatara Rought wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:hackerzilla wrote:Then they should give cal logi another equipment slot and give back the 40 CPU and then we could be real logi bros cause apparently all cal logis aren't logi bros .___. Give assaults 2 equipment slots buff our cpu and pg and sure My caldari assault already can move at 5.0 move speed and get 500 shields with either a damage mod or a energizer that gives it 53 shields/s not including the 3 low slots and it can carry a allotek hive..I carry a ishakune smg and dominate. I think assaults are fine. On the OP's point though, I articulated this to my homies in TeamPlayers. zdub and doc said yes, deluxe I think nasgoth said no. All four run the caldari logi. Doc and zdub are logi's. Deluxe and Nasgoth play it more assault. this is potentially why they didn't want to implement your idea. Because it allows both types of players to (with a little headache) co-exist without raging endlessly because the 8 slots would have caused the assaults to cry.
That's probably right, its meant to be a hybrid logiassault from what I can tell. Not as good of a logi as min or gal and not as good at assault as cal assault. |
Cryius Li-Moody
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
9
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Posted - 2013.08.10 04:54:00 -
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TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote:Real logi bros fill their equipment slots first, then the rest. logi assaults make sure to grab a hive then fill everything else but the equipment slots and then fill them w/ whatever fits or nothing. |
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Zatara Rought
TeamPlayers EoN.
719
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Posted - 2013.08.10 04:54:00 -
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ZDub 303 wrote:Zatara Rought wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:hackerzilla wrote:Then they should give cal logi another equipment slot and give back the 40 CPU and then we could be real logi bros cause apparently all cal logis aren't logi bros .___. Give assaults 2 equipment slots buff our cpu and pg and sure My caldari assault already can move at 5.0 move speed and get 500 shields with either a damage mod or a energizer that gives it 53 shields/s not including the 3 low slots and it can carry a allotek hive..I carry a ishakune smg and dominate. I think assaults are fine. On the OP's point though, I articulated this to my homies in TeamPlayers. zdub and doc said yes, deluxe I think nasgoth said no. All four run the caldari logi. Doc and zdub are logi's. Deluxe and Nasgoth play it more assault. this is potentially why they didn't want to implement your idea. Because it allows both types of players to (with a little headache) co-exist without raging endlessly because the 8 slots would have caused the assaults to cry. That's probably right, its meant to be a hybrid logiassault from what I can tell. Not as good of a logi as min or gal and not as good at assault as cal assault.
Indeed, a different attempt at logi'ing, much like the amarr. |
Darken-Sol
BIG BAD W0LVES Eternal Syndicate
623
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Posted - 2013.08.10 04:55:00 -
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Cody Sietz wrote:Yeah, cause that's what they will use it for.
You got enough CPU to choke a horse. Relax.
a fellow horse choker i see |
Cody Sietz
Bullet Cluster
681
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Posted - 2013.08.10 05:05:00 -
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Darken-Sol wrote:Cody Sietz wrote:Yeah, cause that's what they will use it for.
You got enough CPU to choke a horse. Relax. a fellow horse choker i see Yes, I do it for the sport *wink* |
DS 10
Pure Innocence. EoN.
673
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Posted - 2013.08.10 05:19:00 -
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Everyone talks about Proto Cal Logi, but my advanced suit got reamed. I can barely fit 2 advanced modules while using a CPU module. My highs are two enhanced shield extenders and one basic. Lows are CPU and plates. I use a Toxin or GEK. It's not like I'm even close to OP. What gives?
Also in too drunk to function. I love Dyst. |
ladwar
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
1106
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Posted - 2013.08.10 05:22:00 -
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Cody Sietz wrote:Darken-Sol wrote:Cody Sietz wrote:Yeah, cause that's what they will use it for.
You got enough CPU to choke a horse. Relax. a fellow horse choker i see Yes, I do it for the sport *wink* then hey can you help me .
off topic about what i was going to say but w/e cal logis now have to pick their fitting way more closely then before and hey that might be a good thing. |
Gio Poli
XERCORE E X T E R M I N A T U S
0
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Posted - 2013.08.10 05:25:00 -
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The CPU decrease made the true logistic like us drop our equipment to keep our survivability, no dont take the low slot, take a high slot and return the CPU, that way the exploiters can't stack damage mods and make the 10 year olds cry like 2 year olds, but please return the cpu. We won't trade our guns for uplinks , we won't drop our shields for a hive, we wanna survive while we try to get your assaults back into battle, and kill a few enemies on our own too.
As I posted and was told It was BS (apparently the dream of assault players is that logis have to be just meat for their guns, or high HP guys that can only spit back at you for defence), the casualty of the nerf is called drop uplink which has about the same CPU as the nerf took.
Im not an eve player, but I think there is a third thing that unlocks stuff on that game (like CPU and pc) maybe that should be implemented in Dust. Make logis have a lot of x, and put a lot of x in eqp, then take away our CPU, that should be high for things like damage mods, and make pg high for HP mods and give heavys more pg, etc.
I think the problem is CCP is working with to few variables to make suits be more role specific, and things that shouldn't mix, are being exploited |
Zatara Rought
TeamPlayers EoN.
719
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Posted - 2013.08.10 05:38:00 -
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Gio Poli wrote:The CPU decrease made the true logistic like us drop our equipment to keep our survivability, no dont take the low slot, take a high slot and return the CPU, that way the exploiters can't stack damage mods and make the 10 year olds cry like 2 year olds, but please return the cpu. We won't trade our guns for uplinks , we won't drop our shields for a hive, we wanna survive while we try to get your assaults back into battle, and kill a few enemies on our own too.
As I posted and was told It was BS (apparently the dream of assault players is that logis have to be just meat for their guns, or high HP guys that can only spit back at you for defence), the casualty of the nerf is called drop uplink which has about the same CPU as the nerf took.
Im not an eve player, but I think there is a third thing that unlocks stuff on that game (like CPU and pc) maybe that should be implemented in Dust. Make logis have a lot of x, and put a lot of x in eqp, then take away our CPU, that should be high for things like damage mods, and make pg high for HP mods and give heavys more pg, etc.
I think the problem is CCP is working with to few variables to make suits be more role specific, and things that shouldn't mix, are being exploited
if you want 4 highs and 4 lows spec minmatar. |
Gio Poli
XERCORE E X T E R M I N A T U S
0
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Posted - 2013.08.10 05:41:00 -
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Zatara Rought wrote:Gio Poli wrote:The CPU decrease made the true logistic like us drop our equipment to keep our survivability, no dont take the low slot, take a high slot and return the CPU, that way the exploiters can't stack damage mods and make the 10 year olds cry like 2 year olds, but please return the cpu. We won't trade our guns for uplinks , we won't drop our shields for a hive, we wanna survive while we try to get your assaults back into battle, and kill a few enemies on our own too.
As I posted and was told It was BS (apparently the dream of assault players is that logis have to be just meat for their guns, or high HP guys that can only spit back at you for defence), the casualty of the nerf is called drop uplink which has about the same CPU as the nerf took.
Im not an eve player, but I think there is a third thing that unlocks stuff on that game (like CPU and pc) maybe that should be implemented in Dust. Make logis have a lot of x, and put a lot of x in eqp, then take away our CPU, that should be high for things like damage mods, and make pg high for HP mods and give heavys more pg, etc.
I think the problem is CCP is working with to few variables to make suits be more role specific, and things that shouldn't mix, are being exploited if you want 4 highs and 4 lows spec minmatar.
Please do try to finish reading before making a reply. Could you comment on the idea on introducing a third variable instead. |
Zatara Rought
TeamPlayers EoN.
724
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Posted - 2013.08.10 17:35:00 -
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Gio Poli wrote:Zatara Rought wrote:Gio Poli wrote:The CPU decrease made the true logistic like us drop our equipment to keep our survivability, no dont take the low slot, take a high slot and return the CPU, that way the exploiters can't stack damage mods and make the 10 year olds cry like 2 year olds, but please return the cpu. We won't trade our guns for uplinks , we won't drop our shields for a hive, we wanna survive while we try to get your assaults back into battle, and kill a few enemies on our own too.
As I posted and was told It was BS (apparently the dream of assault players is that logis have to be just meat for their guns, or high HP guys that can only spit back at you for defence), the casualty of the nerf is called drop uplink which has about the same CPU as the nerf took.
Im not an eve player, but I think there is a third thing that unlocks stuff on that game (like CPU and pc) maybe that should be implemented in Dust. Make logis have a lot of x, and put a lot of x in eqp, then take away our CPU, that should be high for things like damage mods, and make pg high for HP mods and give heavys more pg, etc.
I think the problem is CCP is working with to few variables to make suits be more role specific, and things that shouldn't mix, are being exploited if you want 4 highs and 4 lows spec minmatar. Please do try to finish reading before making a reply. Could you comment on the idea on introducing a third variable instead.
No comment on that idea. It'd have to be fleshed out. But assuming simply because I didn't address it is grounds for insinuating I didn't read the post is premature stupidity. |
hackerzilla
Defenders of the Helghast Dream
198
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Posted - 2013.08.10 17:37:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:So what makes you think that people won't just use it like a super Assault again? Adding an equipment slot isn't any good for an assault logi, it would only benefit real logis because the logi assaults only run 1 hive and then they put their mods on. |
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Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
1116
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Posted - 2013.08.10 17:41:00 -
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hackerzilla wrote:Then they should give cal logi another equipment slot and give back the 40 CPU and then we could be real logi bros cause apparently all cal logis aren't logi bros .___.
Not another.
GTFO
Fed up of explaining logistics balance to fake logis. |
hackerzilla
Defenders of the Helghast Dream
198
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Posted - 2013.08.10 18:09:00 -
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Chunky Munkey wrote:hackerzilla wrote:Then they should give cal logi another equipment slot and give back the 40 CPU and then we could be real logi bros cause apparently all cal logis aren't logi bros .___. Not another. GTFO Fed up of explaining logistics balance to fake logis. I've read threads about logi slot balance and what not, but with that aside if CCP wanted logis to be more logi-ey (like they said in the patch notes for 1.3) then this is what they should do. Just saying |
Logi Stician
The Vanguardians
112
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Posted - 2013.08.10 18:15:00 -
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TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote:Real logi bros fill their equipment slots first, then the rest.
I toss in a bpo weapon first to get rid of the [Invalid Fit] tag, then I fill up those equipment slots!
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Logi Stician
The Vanguardians
113
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Posted - 2013.08.10 18:20:00 -
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hackerzilla wrote:Chunky Munkey wrote:hackerzilla wrote:Then they should give cal logi another equipment slot and give back the 40 CPU and then we could be real logi bros cause apparently all cal logis aren't logi bros .___. Not another. GTFO Fed up of explaining logistics balance to fake logis. I've read threads about logi slot balance and what not, but with that aside if CCP wanted logis to be more logi-ey (like they said in the patch notes for 1.3) then this is what they should do. Just saying
Oh man, if I could trade out a low slot for a fourth equipment slot on the ADV gallente logi suit, maaaaan, oh man. I know, it would probably be super unbalanced or what not, but a guy can dream, right? |
Johnny Guilt
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
222
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Posted - 2013.08.10 18:22:00 -
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If that happened it wont change anything,you'd still have proto calilogis neglecting their equipment for the everything else.
BIG question, how do you force a logi to invest into equipment over everything else on the suit? |
Logi Stician
The Vanguardians
113
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Posted - 2013.08.10 18:30:00 -
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Johnny Guilt wrote:If that happened it wont change anything,you'd still have proto calilogis neglecting their equipment for the everything else.
BIG question, how do you force a logi to invest into equipment over everything else on the suit?
Make it so that if all the equipment slots aren't filled it remains an [Invalid Fit], like with the main weapon slot? I'm sure that's gonna get some hate or something. . . |
DeadlyAztec11
Max-Pain-inc Dark Taboo
1827
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Posted - 2013.08.10 23:39:00 -
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Logi Stician wrote:Johnny Guilt wrote:If that happened it wont change anything,you'd still have proto calilogis neglecting their equipment for the everything else.
BIG question, how do you force a logi to invest into equipment over everything else on the suit? Make it so that if all the equipment slots aren't filled it remains an [Invalid Fit], like with the main weapon slot? I'm sure that's gonna get some hate or something. . . Jaw, what if you want to run a proto rep tool and proto injector. You may not have any space for even a compact nano hive.
Caldari Logi's are fine, they are still the most used Logi. |
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