DUST Search - OMG nerf teamwork CCP!!!!!!!!

ConsiderateSmurf wrote:

In my opinion, as obviously sarcastic as that was, I think there was a point made there. You know, I feel bad when I'm fully squad-ed up (which is rare) and we stomp the enemy, especially since it seems whenever that happens, there is another full squad on our team. On the enemy team? Zip. And I've also been on the other end of that scenario. That's just obnoxious.

You say it's as easy as "squad up," and "use teamwork." What about the people with no mics? Also, as I'm sure you've figured out, there are a great many people out there who either seem to refuse to team up with others, (There are some people who lock their squads, with only them in it,) or just seem to not understand the concept. What of the people left in the dust, (pun intended), who aren't a part of a corp? What of the people who don't know anyone, who try to make a squad, and ultimately can't bother anyone on their team to join?

All I'm saying is, would it really be that hard to balance teams based on squad size? So the "teamwork," can be even on both sides? Or should we continue to let the first timers get utterly stomped by organized proto-squads?


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Chances Ghost Inf4m0us 374	Posted - 2013.08.09 22:47:00 - [1] - Quote this is completly unfair, i absolutly refuse to join full squads and use comms and every single time a squad of 6 with mics is on the other team i get completly stomped because nobody on my team is talking to each other!!!! they wreck me with militia gear just because they talk to each other and i demand CCP does something about this. the matchmaking is horrible CCP it should only alow people to play solo so that i may wreck everyone with my 10mil SP and noobs shouldnt be able to co-ordinate in order to challenge my SP supremacy. you really need to prevent people from being able to squad up because i keep getting stomped by organised squads even though i refuse to actually use teamwork against them matchmaking is broken CCP everything should be gear and SP based so that i dont have to talk to anyone and anyone new joining the game will be seriously gimped against me. (sarcasim, seriously folks matchmaking actually works, its just that you have to be in a squad actually using teamwork to see it)
Chances Ghost Inf4m0us 374	Posted - 2013.08.09 22:58:00 - [2] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Uh, matchmaking works? My full squad was on the same team as another full squad today. We were both running proto gear. On the other team were militia newberries. i use militia gear almost exclusivly (well a basic/militia combo with basic/ADV equip i also have 18mil SP and a relativly high ELO rating (i can assume) just because no full squads are on the other team doesnt mean the matchmaking is broken, it simply means they screwed up and diddnt que as a full squad (like everyone should) if everyone squaded up then all the "matchmaking" problems would simply disapear, because they arnt matchmaking problems at all, they are teamwork problems. teamwork /= matchmaking
Chances Ghost Inf4m0us 377	Posted - 2013.08.09 23:05:00 - [3] - Quote Baal Roo wrote: Sadly, this is at the heart of 95% of the QQ on these forums. thats why its so frusterating, they dont even realise that they arnt even complaining about matchmaking, they are complaining about teamwork, wich the entire matchmaking system is designed to promote. basically they ***** that whichever team has the most squads who are talking to each other wins the game and they believe that is somehow broken... if the matchmaking system was broken then we would see the OPPOSITE where it wouldnt matter if you were in a squad and co-operating the team who brought the best gear wins. just because those squads are both brining co-operation AND gear doesnt mean matchmaking is broken, it means you need to squad up and talk to each other. is frusterates me so damn much
Chances Ghost Inf4m0us 379	Posted - 2013.08.09 23:33:00 - [4] - Quote ConsiderateSmurf wrote: In my opinion, as obviously sarcastic as that was, I think there was a point made there. You know, I feel bad when I'm fully squad-ed up (which is rare) and we stomp the enemy, especially since it seems whenever that happens, there is another full squad on our team. On the enemy team? Zip. And I've also been on the other end of that scenario. That's just obnoxious. You say it's as easy as "squad up," and "use teamwork." What about the people with no mics? Also, as I'm sure you've figured out, there are a great many people out there who either seem to refuse to team up with others, (There are some people who lock their squads, with only them in it,) or just seem to not understand the concept. What of the people left in the dust, (pun intended), who aren't a part of a corp? What of the people who don't know anyone, who try to make a squad, and ultimately can't bother anyone on their team to join? All I'm saying is, would it really be that hard to balance teams based on squad size? So the "teamwork," can be even on both sides? Or should we continue to let the first timers get utterly stomped by organized proto-squads? nope not possable. well not viable because you end up having to make a choice between ELO ratings and squad balance, in wich ELO ratings should be prioritised. (you have to chose one or the other because to favor squads it will inevitably ensure that the teams arnt balanced ELO wise) everyone has the OPTION to listen to their team reguardless of weather thye have a mic or not. and everyone has the option to join a squad and play as a team to prevent being stomped. i HATE stomps weather im apart of them or am solo and subject to them, they just arnt fun for anyone. and if everyone joined squads and listened to each other (weather only a handful could speak or not even a little would make a HUGE difference) we would see less and less stomps and more and more even games without changing a single element of the current matchmaking system. the point is that the game is balanced around squad co-operation, and so in order for you to truly see matchmaking you have to actually co-operate as a squad. its not broken, they just arnt using it
Chances Ghost Inf4m0us 379	Posted - 2013.08.09 23:34:00 - [5] - Quote Lucrezia LeGrand wrote: This is a really hard issue to fix because not everyone wants to squad up, nor should everyone be required to squad up just to win. There are some nights where I just want to get a couple of quick matches in before sleeping and the last thing I want to hear is somebody swearing into my ear. then you really should be prepaired to lose. its a co-operative game and not a solo one its balanced and built form top to bottom with team play in mind.
Chances Ghost Inf4m0us 379	Posted - 2013.08.09 23:42:00 - [6] - Quote TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote: If the new matchmaking system works as intended, it'll effectively nerf teamwork by putting protosquads in with protosquads. not enough players unless you want it to take 20+ minuites for a game to start there just isnt that many proto squads all starting a game within that 1 minuite period and so it WILL put them on a team against someone else rather than one of the 4 other proto squads that just happen to start games at other times during that half hour time it takes to start and finish a game
Chances Ghost Inf4m0us 380	Posted - 2013.08.09 23:52:00 - [7] - Quote Patrick57 wrote: Aw man, my friend literally said he was going to make a thread like this yesterday :/ sadly this is the 4th time ive made this thread