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Mathew LaBorde
The Generals EoN.
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Posted - 2013.08.07 22:28:00 -
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i use mass drivers. just recently started a bout two weeks ago. my k/dr has gone up .08 since then. its a great gun. im a logi so i use it to clear the way for picking people up. i can handle a nerf on it .
--THE NERF--
range>take 1/4 OFF the range. damage>take about 60 to 75 damage off. radius>take 1.5 off the radius. rof>take a half a second off the gun clip size=fine ammo=fine
this will be all mass drivers levels. it will make people spec into them more so the gun can get better and it not turn out like the flaylock. im sick and tired of people complaing.
ccp. you have to put your foot down sometimes or these "gamers " are going to turn your game into CoD.
just think after you nerf this gun... whats the next nerf going to be???
maybe introduce the new weapons to counter other weapons.
i know you have alot on your plate, just take your time. we know your hard at work. keep it up.thank you for letting me play the game. |
Cosgar
ParagonX
3970
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Posted - 2013.08.07 22:32:00 -
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Quick experiment, pretend the MD gets taken out of the game, what's the best weapon in the game after that? Now put the MD back into the game, now what's the best weapon? |
Mathew LaBorde
The Generals EoN.
8
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Posted - 2013.08.07 22:36:00 -
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core locus grenades and militia forge gun. oh yeah... the GEK too. |
Henchmen21
Planet Express LLC
58
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Posted - 2013.08.07 22:42:00 -
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Just started using them myself last week. I am probably better with than with my AR but only because its more instinctual when firing for me. I could live with that nerf, I am not terribly accurate with it but with it yet so the radius helps me a lot but I can always get better. |
Cosgar
ParagonX
3974
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Posted - 2013.08.07 22:44:00 -
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Mathew LaBorde wrote:core locus grenades and militia forge gun. oh yeah... the GEK too. I'd rather have more useful weapons than another one getting nerfed to the ground, don't you agree? |
Mathew LaBorde
The Generals EoN.
10
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Posted - 2013.08.07 22:46:00 -
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very much so. i do... anyone else? |
Johnny Guilt
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
217
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Posted - 2013.08.07 22:46:00 -
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Why are Eon members the only ones bitching about the mass driver? the first page says it all,all dem alts |
xSaloLx
GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention
105
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Posted - 2013.08.07 22:47:00 -
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The only "fix" to massdrives (and other explosives) is diminishing damage the farther you get from the blast radius. Currently, MDs do full damage even at the edge of their effective area, this should really be dropped to about 33%-50% damage, with a gradual drop-off. |
shaman oga
Nexus Balusa Horizon DARKSTAR ARMY
401
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Posted - 2013.08.07 22:49:00 -
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I killed an ADV gal logi with full health in 1 shot, i have the std MD with a complex damage mod and an adv damage mod, the MD is not fine, certain weapon, especially the one with an high AoE should not do all that damage and should not be affected by dmg mods, i don't want to spec into MD but if it remains like it's now, it will become a must. |
Mathew LaBorde
The Generals EoN.
13
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Posted - 2013.08.07 22:49:00 -
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johnny, if you knew how to read and didnt have a 3rd grade reading comprehension level, you'd see that i am/was compromising you half witted dimwit. |
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Cosgar
ParagonX
3982
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Posted - 2013.08.07 22:50:00 -
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xSaloLx wrote:The only "fix" to massdrives (and other explosives) should be diminishing damage the farther you get from the blast radius. Currently, MDs do full damage even at the edge of their effective area, this should really be dropped to about 33%-50% damage, with a gradual drop-off. If I get more ammo, I could live with this. With the buff to EHP and the nerf to nanohives, 18 rounds doesn't really cut it. |
Patrick57
GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention
12
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Posted - 2013.08.07 22:50:00 -
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I agree with Salo, they should not be doing full damage at the edge of the radius. As an MD user myself, i have killed people with full armor in one shot when they were at the very edge of the blast radius, and that is a problem. |
Mathew LaBorde
The Generals EoN.
13
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Posted - 2013.08.07 22:51:00 -
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oga, you mustve got a direct hit plus the 15% damage buff... do the math |
Mathew LaBorde
The Generals EoN.
13
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Posted - 2013.08.07 22:52:00 -
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bump- pat |
Killar-12
Molon Labe. League of Infamy
433
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Posted - 2013.08.07 22:52:00 -
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Do you know how to beat a MD? get uphill get long range weapons get really close to the MD user use a AR (or get better aim an AR can beat anything) |
Mathew LaBorde
The Generals EoN.
13
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Posted - 2013.08.07 22:54:00 -
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cosgar. you can spend sp to get more ammo. only on bullet at a time though. |
Johnny Guilt
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
218
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Posted - 2013.08.07 22:55:00 -
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Mathew LaBorde wrote:johnny, if you knew how to read and didnt have a 3rd grade reading comprehension level, you'd see that i am/was compromising you half witted dimwit. who are you talking too? there's other johhnys here boy quote your responses. |
Buster Friently
Rosen Association
1474
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Posted - 2013.08.07 22:56:00 -
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Mathew LaBorde wrote: i use mass drivers. just recently started a bout two weeks ago. my k/dr has gone up .08 since then. its a great gun. im a logi so i use it to clear the way for picking people up. i can handle a nerf on it .
--THE NERF--
range>take 1/4 OFF the range. damage>take about 60 to 75 damage off. radius>take 1.5 off the radius. rof>take a half a second off the gun clip size=fine ammo=fine
this will be all mass drivers levels. it will make people spec into them more so the gun can get better and it not turn out like the flaylock. im sick and tired of people complaing.
ccp. you have to put your foot down sometimes or these "gamers " are going to turn your game into CoD.
just think after you nerf this gun... whats the next nerf going to be???
maybe introduce the new weapons to counter other weapons.
i know you have alot on your plate, just take your time. we know your hard at work. keep it up.thank you for letting me play the game.
Hail AR 514. Go AR or go home.
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Cosgar
ParagonX
3982
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Posted - 2013.08.07 22:58:00 -
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Mathew LaBorde wrote:cosgar. you can spend sp to get more ammo. only on bullet at a time though. I'd rather wait until the secondary skills are weapon specific. After you do the math, those percentages based on the AR aren't worth the SP unless you're using the HMG. |
Mathew LaBorde
The Generals EoN.
13
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Posted - 2013.08.07 22:58:00 -
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Johnny Guilt wrote:Mathew LaBorde wrote:johnny, if you knew how to read and didnt have a 3rd grade reading comprehension level, you'd see that i am/was compromising you half witted dimwit. who are you talking too? there's other johhnys here boy quote your responses.
seriously? you want me to be specific when u know who im talking about. IT'S YOU!! you donkey |
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semperfi1999
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
752
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Posted - 2013.08.07 23:42:00 -
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Mathew LaBorde wrote: i use mass drivers. just recently started a bout two weeks ago. my k/dr has gone up .08 since then. its a great gun. im a logi so i use it to clear the way for picking people up. i can handle a nerf on it .
--THE NERF--
range>take 1/4 OFF the range. damage>take about 60 to 75 damage off. radius>take 1.5 off the radius. rof>take a half a second off the gun clip size=fine ammo=fine
this will be all mass drivers levels. it will make people spec into them more so the gun can get better and it not turn out like the flaylock. im sick and tired of people complaing.
ccp. you have to put your foot down sometimes or these "gamers " are going to turn your game into CoD.
just think after you nerf this gun... whats the next nerf going to be???
maybe introduce the new weapons to counter other weapons.
i know you have alot on your plate, just take your time. we know your hard at work. keep it up.thank you for letting me play the game.
I think that is a little extreme. Make clip size 4 or aoe 4 - 4.5 (5-6 for assault). |
XeroTheBigBoss
TeamPlayers EoN.
854
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Posted - 2013.08.07 23:44:00 -
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Buster Friently wrote:Mathew LaBorde wrote: i use mass drivers. just recently started a bout two weeks ago. my k/dr has gone up .08 since then. its a great gun. im a logi so i use it to clear the way for picking people up. i can handle a nerf on it .
--THE NERF--
range>take 1/4 OFF the range. damage>take about 60 to 75 damage off. radius>take 1.5 off the radius. rof>take a half a second off the gun clip size=fine ammo=fine
this will be all mass drivers levels. it will make people spec into them more so the gun can get better and it not turn out like the flaylock. im sick and tired of people complaing.
ccp. you have to put your foot down sometimes or these "gamers " are going to turn your game into CoD.
just think after you nerf this gun... whats the next nerf going to be???
maybe introduce the new weapons to counter other weapons.
i know you have alot on your plate, just take your time. we know your hard at work. keep it up.thank you for letting me play the game. Hail AR 514. Go AR or go home.
So use it than. Not as easy as you make it out to be huh? |
Mathew LaBorde
The Generals EoN.
15
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Posted - 2013.08.08 01:10:00 -
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my AR prof are specced out. thats why i spec into mass drivers |
TheAmazing FlyingPig
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
2400
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Posted - 2013.08.08 01:37:00 -
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Killar-12 wrote:Do you know how to beat a MD? get uphill get long range weapons get really close to the MD user use a AR (or get better aim an AR can beat anything) I find lasers work really well. Stay in your optimal and you can stroll away from those MD shells. |
Cosgar
ParagonX
4016
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Posted - 2013.08.08 01:39:00 -
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TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote:Killar-12 wrote:Do you know how to beat a MD? get uphill get long range weapons get really close to the MD user use a AR (or get better aim an AR can beat anything) I find lasers work really well. Stay in your optimal and you can stroll away from those MD shells. Shhhh, they'll cry for laser nerfs next. |
Skipper Jones
Militaires-Sans-Frontieres
599
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Posted - 2013.08.08 01:44:00 -
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Mathew LaBorde wrote:
--THE NERF--
range>take 1/4 OFF the range. damage>take about 60 to 75 damage off. radius>take 1.5 off the radius. rof>take a half a second off the gun clip size=fine ammo=fine
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The range is fine. If you can pick someone of at range with the gun, you deserve it. I really don't know how much that is. Just make sure it can still kill people with a clip or less (besides tanking heavies) I disagree. Maybe have an increased range. BUT have it so the further you are from the shot, the less damage you take. ROF is completely fine. It's slow enough to where you can't rapid fire it, but can get some shots of at a constant rate. Yes Yes. |
Skipper Jones
Militaires-Sans-Frontieres
599
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Posted - 2013.08.08 01:50:00 -
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shaman oga wrote:I killed an ADV gal logi with full health in 1 shot, i have the std MD with a complex damage mod and an adv damage mod, the MD is not fine, certain weapon, especially the one with an high AoE should not do all that damage and should not be affected by dmg mods, i don't want to spec into MD but if it remains like it's now, it will become a must.
The GAL logi is an armor suit. The MD has +20% damage to armor.
The hell you mean by, "it should not be affected by Damage mods"? Damage mods add damage to ALL weapons. You can't just single out one or two.
You are a ******. If you have damage mods added to a EXPLOSIVE GUN, then it will do killer damage.
If you OHK was a direct hit, it would do extra damage already, +20% DAMAGE TO ARMOR. +15% DAMAGE TO THE SHOT
If you put skill points into making the gun a powerhouse, you should get a powerhouse. not a sissy gun. |
Skipper Jones
Militaires-Sans-Frontieres
599
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Posted - 2013.08.08 01:54:00 -
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semperfi1999 wrote:Mathew LaBorde wrote: i use mass drivers. just recently started a bout two weeks ago. my k/dr has gone up .08 since then. its a great gun. im a logi so i use it to clear the way for picking people up. i can handle a nerf on it .
--THE NERF--
range>take 1/4 OFF the range. damage>take about 60 to 75 damage off. radius>take 1.5 off the radius. rof>take a half a second off the gun clip size=fine ammo=fine
this will be all mass drivers levels. it will make people spec into them more so the gun can get better and it not turn out like the flaylock. im sick and tired of people complaing.
ccp. you have to put your foot down sometimes or these "gamers " are going to turn your game into CoD.
just think after you nerf this gun... whats the next nerf going to be???
maybe introduce the new weapons to counter other weapons.
i know you have alot on your plate, just take your time. we know your hard at work. keep it up.thank you for letting me play the game. I think that is a little extreme. Make clip size 4 or aoe 4 - 4.5 (5-6 for assault).
The clip size is fine. With the reload speeds you the gun will be very hard to fill its role it 4 shots.
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Medical Crash
Vacuum Cleaner. LLC RUST415
51
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Posted - 2013.08.08 02:00:00 -
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Leave the MD alone! There's nothing wrong it, nothing! Just buff Armour and give shields a drawback-like a higher signature. |
Paran Tadec
Ancient Exiles Negative-Feedback
1271
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Posted - 2013.08.08 02:26:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:Quick experiment, pretend the MD gets taken out of the game, what's the best weapon in the game after that? Now put the MD back into the game, now what's the best weapon?
Its still AR. |
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XeroTheBigBoss
TeamPlayers EoN.
868
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Posted - 2013.08.08 02:26:00 -
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Paran Tadec wrote:Cosgar wrote:Quick experiment, pretend the MD gets taken out of the game, what's the best weapon in the game after that? Now put the MD back into the game, now what's the best weapon? Its still AR.
Lol! 3-12 lmfao! |
cedz636
Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic
97
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Posted - 2013.08.08 02:35:00 -
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Another MD thread? Seriously? You never got killed with an MD with Uprising 1.0, and the only mention the MD got was it was severely underpowered to the point where nobody used it. With the recent fix, everyone is screaming OP, OP, OP. Are there that few of us that thinks the MD was balanced rather nicely? I mean, it is an area weapon, and if you get hit with a round direct, physics would state that you'd be in some serious pain. Sounds to me like you're just scared...another reason that the MD is such an effective weapon. I swear, if people get killed by anything other than an AR, they run to the forums screaming NERF. The MD is fine. The SMG is fine. The flaylock is now fine. Not everybody needs to run around with an AR.
Oh and I don't use the MD, so don't call me fanboy. I have been around for the rise, fall, and resurrection of the MD, and it is now an effective weapon, and works as intended. |
Paran Tadec
Ancient Exiles Negative-Feedback
1279
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Posted - 2013.08.08 02:59:00 -
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XeroTheBigBoss wrote:Paran Tadec wrote:Cosgar wrote:Quick experiment, pretend the MD gets taken out of the game, what's the best weapon in the game after that? Now put the MD back into the game, now what's the best weapon? Its still AR. Lol! 3-12 lmfao!
Mom's calling, your hot pockets are ready. |
Mathew LaBorde
The Generals EoN.
15
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Posted - 2013.08.08 12:13:00 -
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cedz636 wrote:Another MD thread? Seriously? You never got killed with an MD with Uprising 1.0, and the only mention the MD got was it was severely underpowered to the point where nobody used it. With the recent fix, everyone is screaming OP, OP, OP. Are there that few of us that thinks the MD was balanced rather nicely? I mean, it is an area weapon, and if you get hit with a round direct, physics would state that you'd be in some serious pain. Sounds to me like you're just scared...another reason that the MD is such an effective weapon. I swear, if people get killed by anything other than an AR, they run to the forums screaming NERF. The MD is fine. The SMG is fine. The flaylock is now fine. Not everybody needs to run around with an AR.
Oh and I don't use the MD, so don't call me fanboy. I have been around for the rise, fall, and resurrection of the MD, and it is now an effective weapon, and works as intended. read my other post... OP EVERYTHING |
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